fstarbkk Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) They announced on the sound truck that the rally at the Chaeng Wattana caused hardship to passenger van operators and local residents. Theres the clue right there, this will be drivers and others who are fed up with their wages being affected by the protesters getting together, dosnt take a genius to know a lot of drivers and general lower paid jobs are done by red shirt supporters. This was bound to happen at some point, you mess with normal peoples jobs and ability to earn they wont put up with it for long. Strange, I didn't hear these people complaining about their livelyhoods being affected in the 2010 red riots. Perhaps that is because the daily handout from Thaksin made up for it. Edited January 17, 2014 by fstarbkk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I guess Thaksin needs that coup so bad Yep. Thaksin ordered them to confront the PDRC because he wants a coup which will re-install him as PM. We all know the Thai military are with him, so this makes perfect sense. What? The Armed Forces are behind Thaksin? Where do you get this gem of information from? Maybe from a Black shirt guard hired by Thaksin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Congratulations, the Thailand civil war has officially started today . At least it's a very civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Seems people including Red Shirts are upset with their daily lives being destroyed by protesters. Even Red Shirts need to earn a living either driving vans or taxis. Pity we didn't hear the same complaints a few years ago last time Bangkok was under siege . . . There were. But, that was then and this is now. Try to keep up. As if there were any difference................try to GROW up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pity we didn't hear the same complaints a few years ago last time Bangkok was under siege . . . It's totally different. In a democracy you vote for change. But the only thing you can do in a military dictatorship is to protest. To topple a dictatorship with violence is justified. To try to do so in a democracy is not. This is a simple concept that all western governments understand. what complete utter misrepresentation of the truth!! Thaksin is the Dictator - so OK to use force against him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 They announced on the sound truck that the rally at the Chaeng Wattana caused hardship to passenger van operators and local residents. Theres the clue right there, this will be drivers and others who are fed up with their wages being affected by the protesters getting together, dosnt take a genius to know a lot of drivers and general lower paid jobs are done by red shirt supporters. This was bound to happen at some point, you mess with normal peoples jobs and ability to earn they wont put up with it for long. You really believe yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Seems people including Red Shirts are upset with their daily lives being destroyed by protesters. Even Red Shirts need to earn a living either driving vans or taxis. Pity we didn't hear the same complaints a few years ago last time Bangkok was under siege . . . There were. But, that was then and this is now. Try to keep up. As if there were any difference................try to GROW up!! erm……….. The difference couldn't have been more startling…………….? A few years ago they were fighting for their right against a dictatorial government who wouldn't agree to hold general elections. Now they are fighting in the name of democracy and for Thailand not to end up with a fascist dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Slowly but surely the grand master plan of Thaksin is faling into place, violence civil unrest all as a result of one creatures manic desire for ultimate power and revenge at any price. The violence is a last resort and no doubt the bully boys are being rewarded or are being promised rewards for their efforts. However they would do well to remember the situation concerning earlier pawns in the Thaksin bids for power. Those pawns still languish in prison and lets remember that all the populist vote policies (read bribes) for a votes for Thaksin and his puppet P.T.P. have indeed and are currently being proved to be yet another example of Thaksins proven deceit and contempt for others. This is not a political issue, it is an issue where one creature and its family and their ilk wish to subject a country to a dictatorship nothing more nothing less. +10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AleG Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 To all the shin haters please tell me why the poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai gave these people that vote and now we have the opposition trying to take it away from them and installing an unelected peoples council which will be run by the elite of Thailand every person deserves the chance to better themselves kun Suthep wants to change that if he has his way Thailand will become the new North Korea and if that ever happens we Falangs will be heading for the airports and borders in double time, the time has come for all parties to make dialogue and bring this craziness to a halt before others are killed and injured due to. Someone's self gratification . It is clear to me that by the amount who have been demonstrating that the majority of Thais are not prepared to go on the streets and want to choose by the ballot box on 2 February . Thaksin gave the people the right to vote? Seriously? What next? he cured cancer too? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry1011 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Nothing wrong with people trying to make the yellow protesters understand that they cause lots of damage to hard working people who need revenues to feed their family. What would be wrong would be for the yellow "guards" to reply by shooting at them. And with all the pictures circulating and showing Suthep's thugs armed with all sorts of weapons, would not be surprised that that's what they did... Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Slowly but surely the grand master plan of Thaksin is faling into place, violence civil unrest all as a result of one creatures manic desire for ultimate power and revenge at any price. The violence is a last resort and no doubt the bully boys are being rewarded or are being promised rewards for their efforts. However they would do well to remember the situation concerning earlier pawns in the Thaksin bids for power. Those pawns still languish in prison and lets remember that all the populist vote policies (read bribes) for a votes for Thaksin and his puppet P.T.P. have indeed and are currently being proved to be yet another example of Thaksins proven deceit and contempt for others. This is not a political issue, it is an issue where one creature and its family and their ilk wish to subject a country to a dictatorship nothing more nothing less. "This is not a political issue, it is an issue where one creature and its family and their ilk wish to subject a country to a dictatorship nothing more nothing less." Never in the field of Thai political conflict discussion, has so little knowledge been shown to so many by so few (supporters of suthep). Apologies, Winston. Edited January 17, 2014 by fab4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 To all the shin haters please tell me why the poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai gave these people that vote and now we have the opposition trying to take it away from them and installing an unelected peoples council which will be run by the elite of Thailand every person deserves the chance to better themselves kun Suthep wants to change that if he has his way Thailand will become the new North Korea and if that ever happens we Falangs will be heading for the airports and borders in double time, the time has come for all parties to make dialogue and bring this craziness to a halt before others are killed and injured due to. Someone's self gratification . It is clear to me that by the amount who have been demonstrating that the majority of Thais are not prepared to go on the streets and want to choose by the ballot box on 2 February . You probably mean "tell me why poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai when he pay them to do so" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icommunity Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 They were the RedShirt??? They were taxi, motorcycle taxi and passenger van drivers. They gathered on Chaeng Wattana Road to ask the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) to stop blockading local roads. They told the protesters that ongoing rallies are damaging business for those who rely on the roads for their income. Of course that is not the protesters' problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Using firearms in retaliation to words, just a little excessive I think Suthep created an impasse, if he was not prepared to resolve this by discussion, he had to leave, or become the blockage that required removal in order for Thailand to progress......it would appear he chose the latter Edited January 17, 2014 by 473geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I guess Thaksin needs that coup so bad Yep. Thaksin ordered them to confront the PDRC because he wants a coup which will re-install him as PM. We all know the Thai military are with him, so this makes perfect sense. General Prawit Wongsuwan and former army chief General Anupong Paochinda. You don't get much more anti Thaksin than these two but I'll let you google it. Suffice it to say you are almost completely wrong. Who told you that the Army was with Thaksin? Even Suthep has not accused him of that. Everything else but. But not that, just too loony. As a last resort Thaksin will enjoy appearing on CNN, the BBC, New Mandala and other farang red shirt media as the hear-lo of "I pay by the loo" democasy again. Perhaps this time sis can join him blubbing in front of the cameras as a duet of fugitive former Thai (now Montenegin) PMs. Edited January 17, 2014 by Dogmatix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 You probably mean "tell me why poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai when he pay them to do so" Well why not? Two guys handing out money to vote. One in a red shirt and one in a yellow shirt handing out money. Why can't people choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 To all the shin haters please tell me why the poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai gave these people that vote and now we have the opposition trying to take it away from them and installing an unelected peoples council which will be run by the elite of Thailand every person deserves the chance to better themselves kun Suthep wants to change that if he has his way Thailand will become the new North Korea and if that ever happens we Falangs will be heading for the airports and borders in double time, the time has come for all parties to make dialogue and bring this craziness to a halt before others are killed and injured due to. Someone's self gratification . It is clear to me that by the amount who have been demonstrating that the majority of Thais are not prepared to go on the streets and want to choose by the ballot box on 2 February . tHAKSIN is not a friend of the poor - he uses them to cover his activities. he is a criminal who has murdered, lied and cheated Thailand and its people and been run off. Only Thaksin will make New North Korea - thai people with intelligence and education KNOW what Thaksin is!!Please - dont only to Isan bar ladies or you will sound like them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) They announced on the sound truck that the rally at the Chaeng Wattana caused hardship to passenger van operators and local residents. Theres the clue right there, this will be drivers and others who are fed up with their wages being affected by the protesters getting together, dosnt take a genius to know a lot of drivers and general lower paid jobs are done by red shirt supporters. This was bound to happen at some point, you mess with normal peoples jobs and ability to earn they wont put up with it for long. You really believe yourself? Nope i believe what i know to be true, who do you think does all the menial jobs and just how do you think they will react when they can't pay the bills or support their families ? Just what do you suppose the red supporters do for their day job ? where do you think these militants work day to day ? their families eat just how ? Behind every spokesman are the ground troops ( figure of speech ) they all need to work they all need to eat, . its a cliche of fight club sure but the following is pretty true here. “Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. We control every part of your life. We are the middle children of history, raised by television to believe that someday we'll be millionaires and movie stars and rock stars, but we won't. And we're just learning this fact. So don't <deleted> with us.” add in all the other thai menial jobs and you get the picture. I dont advocate violence but when you take away the basics from the ones that have little, they have nothing to lose and can get very very pi**ed off Edited January 17, 2014 by englishoak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 It appears that Thaksin has released the Dogs of War. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 RJIP - In red shirt eyes only - to anyone who is NOT red shirt - the only dictator involved is in Dubai - this is all about supporting him TO BEOME a fascist dictator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Nothing wrong with people trying to make the yellow protesters understand that they cause lots of damage to hard working people who need revenues to feed their family. What would be wrong would be for the yellow "guards" to reply by shooting at them. And with all the pictures circulating and showing Suthep's thugs armed with all sorts of weapons, would not be surprised that that's what they did... Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Weapons & ammunition said to be hidden around Bangkok to retaliate against coup or use if Election Commission or judiciary postpone election. Bkk post. Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xminator Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The first report was "red shirts attacking pdrc with guns and bombs". This article says the vans and motorcycles dispersed when gunfire sounded. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 As this situation now teeters towards civil war, we are witnessing the polarity that has divided the Thai people for years. It is now being played out on the streets. As it is impossible to conceive of an election having any chance of being carried out under these circumstances at the ground level, the Yingluck administration should do the responsible thing and quietly step down, allowing a process of reform that will peacefully engage all and leave out none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In Mongolia we have a saying: "If dogs could fly, we would be covered in Dog shit" Stupid saying as befits another ignorant race denigrating dogs. What about pigs? As likely as Taksin meliorating this situation as our porcine friends flying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 To all the shin haters please tell me why the poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai gave these people that vote and now we have the opposition trying to take it away from them and installing an unelected peoples council which will be run by the elite of Thailand every person deserves the chance to better themselves kun Suthep wants to change that if he has his way Thailand will become the new North Korea and if that ever happens we Falangs will be heading for the airports and borders in double time, the time has come for all parties to make dialogue and bring this craziness to a halt before others are killed and injured due to. Someone's self gratification . It is clear to me that by the amount who have been demonstrating that the majority of Thais are not prepared to go on the streets and want to choose by the ballot box on 2 February . The poor people should have (not sure why you're using "given") the same rights as those with wealth. They shouldn't be allowed to vote for corrupt criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I guess Thaksin needs that coup so bad Yep. Thaksin ordered them to confront the PDRC because he wants a coup which will re-install him as PM. We all know the Thai military are with him, so this makes perfect sense. Why on earth would Thaksin PTP want a coup? That would only benefit Suthep, the UnDems and the royalist elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 As this situation now teeters towards civil war, we are witnessing the polarity that has divided the Thai people for years. It is now being played out on the streets. As it is impossible to conceive of an election having any chance of being carried out under these circumstances at the ground level, the Yingluck administration should do the responsible thing and quietly step down, allowing a process of reform that will peacefully engage all and leave out none. Dream on. Yaowapa's up next to bat for Taksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 To all the shin haters please tell me why the poor people of this country should not be given the same rights as those with wealth why should they not be allowed to vote the man in Dubai gave these people that vote and now we have the opposition trying to take it away from them and installing an unelected peoples council which will be run by the elite of Thailand every person deserves the chance to better themselves kun Suthep wants to change that if he has his way Thailand will become the new North Korea and if that ever happens we Falangs will be heading for the airports and borders in double time, the time has come for all parties to make dialogue and bring this craziness to a halt before others are killed and injured due to. Someone's self gratification . It is clear to me that by the amount who have been demonstrating that the majority of Thais are not prepared to go on the streets and want to choose by the ballot box on 2 February . The poor people should have (not sure why you're using "given") the same rights as those with wealth. They shouldn't be allowed to vote for corrupt criminals. It's OK in the US, UK and Australia why not Thailand? Seems not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 An off topic post has been removed. A post using foreign language has been removed. A post in violation of this forum rule has been removed: 2) Not to express disrespect of the King of Thailand or anyone else in the Thai royal family, whether living or deceased, nor to criticize the monarchy as an institution. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. Discussion of the lese majeste law or lese majeste cases is permitted on the forum, providing no comment or speculation is made referencing the royal family. To breach this rule will result in immediate ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 It appears that Thaksin has released the Dogs of War. Again with the 'dogs' Four legs good, TWO legs bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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