Seventh suicide attributed to lack of rice-pledging payments

[ETatBKK]

while we have all the fancy words on the keyword, the number 8 bad news just arrived :

RT@tulsathit: RT @PatricLand: 8th death- indebted rice farmer in Chachoengsao killed self by drinking fertilizer via @TNEWSTV fb.me/2NNAsCMPt

I know it may be just as little as the spending on a luxury weekend for someone high there, but it is a life decision for a grass root farmer.

shame on anyone getting benefits from this rice programme. your money would have changed the life of 8 farmers and their families.

[Bluespunk]

Yes, but if you've ever spent time with these people you will know they are largely unaware of how the world works and very vulnerable.

Blaming them for it is like blaming an old woman for being mugged.

The Thai government is 100% responsible for an ugly crime against its own people, and it should pay up no matter what.

Blaming them for selfishly killing themselves is more like blaming Mrs Bobbit (& many Thai ladies) for chopping off their husband's joy sticks. Temporary insanity. Justified long prison terms. Guilty as charged.

But where is the proof the woman found hung killed herself & it was not a murder. It would make a great excuse for a husband who wanted to rid himself of the wife. Or for anti gov propaganda. Pay a few guys off to off their spouses & they kill two birds with one stone.

But of course all those foreigners skydiving w/o a parachute off hirises were suicides. Yeah right. Believe everything you read in the Thai press.

Finding it hard to believe what I am reading in your posts. Complete absence of empathy or any sense of humanity. Sick. Edited February 12, 2014 by Bluespunk

[GentlemanJim]

<<<<Post now deleted>>>>

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

I think Suthep is feeling guilty, the murderous scumbag has changed his mind, I see in another headline he is asking commercial banks to approve loans.

Those of us that live out here have a very good handle on what is going on day to day in both the political and social issues of this country. We are all pretty much aware of who has done what and who is responsible, we have our gripes with each other but comments have never beens so disgusting as in the last two months. For the best part of those two months now TV has been inflltrated by folks with a very recent join date and in comparison a very large post rate. The 3 guys above along with 'Pipkins', come on in and deliberately try to inflame ANY thread on this forum. There is a forum rule that is broken by the 4 guys above almost on a continuous basis:

5) Not to post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling.Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

I respectfully request that these guys should be 'looked' in to in terms of posts, IP addresses etc etc for duplicate accounts. It is clear since the beginning of these troubles they have engaged in nothing but the most provocative of statements and comments that has been designed to nothing other than inflame argument. The first one is a prime example. ANYBODY knows that the current tragedy involving the farmers is an ongoing long term issue caused by the Government. Yet just to throw some gasoline on the fire prbkk comes out with "Tragic. More blood on Suthep's hands. His vindictive efforts to block these payments will come back to haunt him". Now in no way can that be considered a reasonable comment by any reasonable thinking person. Whilst it may be good for post count figures it is definitely not good for this site that these trolls are roaming freely and currently inflaming every single thread.

By the way prbkk what is 'vindictive' would be someone forwarding your comment above to Sutheps legal team, because for around $1500 they would start a class action against this site, in order to avoid such an action the site owners would be requested to provide your complete registration and account details within 7 days so that you could have your ass sued off or be thrown in jail. Failure of a site to provide the details subjects them to the same class action and makes them responsible (this is a process going on all over the world and is subject to both local and international law), so what do you think they would do. The comments above are reprehensible. It is hardly surprising that so many members have posts deleted claiming that people must be being paid to comment as how else can they rationalize how such blatantly wrong and inflaming comments make their way on here. For me I just put it down to nasty ill-informed people wanting to jerk off at the anger they cause. In this case, site satisfaction and contentment is inversely proportional to the number of post counts. I am all for people having different opinions but the four above take it way too far. Enough is enough.

[Dogmatix]

I know many farmers lack much formal education but to believe in a scheme that offered to pay them 50% more than the market price for their rice was ever going to be more than a scam was being naive in the extreme. They should have just sold their rice to the brokers at the market price at harvest time.

But the scheme dates back to 2005 under the first Thaksin government and the Abhisit government introduced a rice guarantee scheme which paid the difference with the guaranteed price. So they had got used to these crop subsidy schemes. How could they be expected to know it would collapse, or when it would collapse, even if they suspected it? It seemed to be a government guarantee, albeit without any penalties for late payment. Who would sell at the market price under these conditions? Thais are also used to government subsidies for diesel and LPG etc. When the first reports came out that payments were late in some provinces but BAAC managers assured farmers they would be paid in two weeks, it seemed reasonable. Who would imagine that the government would fail to arrange the funding and then pull the plug on parliament before authorising government guarantees for the loans? It is inconceivable.

Personally I wouldn't find manslaughter charges far fetched against Yingluck, Kittirat, Nitwithamrong etc in addition to fraud and malfeasance.

[metisdead]

A troll post from back on page 1 has now been removed as well as the replies. More should be removed. As mentioned above by another poster, some members need to respect this forum rule:

5) Not to post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling.Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

Continued violations of this rule may find some on a posting holiday.

[oldthaihand99]

Yes, but if you've ever spent time with these people you will know they are largely unaware of how the world works and very vulnerable.

Blaming them for it is like blaming an old woman for being mugged.

The Thai government is 100% responsible for an ugly crime against its own people, and it should pay up no matter what.

Blaming them for selfishly killing themselves is more like blaming Mrs Bobbit (& many Thai ladies) for chopping off their husband's joy sticks. Temporary insanity. Justified long prison terms. Guilty as charged.

But where is the proof the woman found hung killed herself & it was not a murder. It would make a great excuse for a husband who wanted to rid himself of the wife. Or for anti gov propaganda. Pay a few guys off to off their spouses & they kill two birds with one stone.

But of course all those foreigners skydiving w/o a parachute off hirises were suicides. Yeah right. Believe everything you read in the Thai press.

Finding it hard to believe what I am reading in your posts. Complete absence of empathy or any sense of humanity. Sick.

Ad hominen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

irrelevant conclusion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacies_of_irrelevance

Red herring:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

Edited February 12, 2014 by oldthaihand99

[OMGImInPattaya]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

If government paid the farmers they didn't need to borrow .

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

These are earlier loans to buy new trucks, big-screen TVs, Galaxy phones, and other farming essentials.

[Bluespunk]

Yes, but if you've ever spent time with these people you will know they are largely unaware of how the world works and very vulnerable.

Blaming them for it is like blaming an old woman for being mugged.

The Thai government is 100% responsible for an ugly crime against its own people, and it should pay up no matter what.

Blaming them for selfishly killing themselves is more like blaming Mrs Bobbit (& many Thai ladies) for chopping off their husband's joy sticks. Temporary insanity. Justified long prison terms. Guilty as charged.

But where is the proof the woman found hung killed herself & it was not a murder. It would make a great excuse for a husband who wanted to rid himself of the wife. Or for anti gov propaganda. Pay a few guys off to off their spouses & they kill two birds with one stone.

But of course all those foreigners skydiving w/o a parachute off hirises were suicides. Yeah right. Believe everything you read in the Thai press.

Finding it hard to believe what I am reading in your posts. Complete absence of empathy or any sense of humanity. Sick.

Ad hominen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

irrelevant conclusion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacies_of_irrelevance

Red herring:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

Nope on all counts. A woman has died in tragic circumstances and all you do is drag in nonsense conspiracy theories and insensitive comments on other suicides.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Bluespunk

[oldthaihand99]

Blaming them for selfishly killing themselves is more like blaming Mrs Bobbit (& many Thai ladies) for chopping off their husband's joy sticks. Temporary insanity. Justified long prison terms. Guilty as charged.

But where is the proof the woman found hung killed herself & it was not a murder. It would make a great excuse for a husband who wanted to rid himself of the wife. Or for anti gov propaganda. Pay a few guys off to off their spouses & they kill two birds with one stone.

But of course all those foreigners skydiving w/o a parachute off hirises were suicides. Yeah right. Believe everything you read in the Thai press.

Finding it hard to believe what I am reading in your posts. Complete absence of empathy or any sense of humanity. Sick.

Ad hominen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

irrelevant conclusion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacies_of_irrelevance

Red herring:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

Nope on all counts. A woman has died in tragic circumstances and all you do is drag in nonsense conspiracy theories and insensitive comments on other suicides.

Nothing you have said so far properly addresses my points, i.e. with sound reasonings, known facts and logical points. Instead you use only slanders and:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse

against my person, someone you don't know, & in violation of forum rules.

Get off your high horse.

Edited February 12, 2014 by oldthaihand99

[Bluespunk]

@oldthaihand99

True I don't know you. But I stand by everything I said about your posts.

I cannot see where I have insulted you personally, enlighten me.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Bluespunk

[dinom]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

And why did they need to borrow?

[oldthaihand99]

@oldthaihand99

True I don't know you. But I stand by everything I said about your posts.

I cannot see where I have insulted you personally, enlighten me.

I can only suggest rereading the thread. In any case i am finding the (off) topic quite boring.

BTW does anyone have anything to post except the same old "mob mentality" that i knew would flood this topic before reading a single post? I'd rather see a Perry Mason mentality.

Edited February 12, 2014 by oldthaihand99

[Bluespunk]

@oldthaihand99

True I don't know you. But I stand by everything I said about your posts.

I cannot see where I have insulted you personally, enlighten me.

I can only suggest rereading the thread. In any case i am finding the (off) topic quite boring.

BTW does anyone have anything to post except the same old "mob mentality" that i knew would flood this topic before reading a single post? I'd rather see a Perry Mason mentality.

Read it. Still disagree. But yes we are off topic

[GentlemanJim]

@oldthaihand99

True I don't know you. But I stand by everything I said about your posts.

I cannot see where I have insulted you personally, enlighten me.

I can only suggest rereading the thread. In any case i am finding the (off) topic quite boring.

BTW does anyone have anything to post except the same old "mob mentality" that i knew would flood this topic before reading a single post? I'd rather see a Perry Mason mentality.

Fill yer boots oldthai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In9s2DCQYko

[Dogmatix]

As usual, in Thailands kow tow history, the elites screw the little people.

But this time it's the LEGENDARY FRIEND of the little people VISIBLY doing the screwing.

It's been going on all long like that, but not in a way the poor were able to see,

now like a redheaded step child in a dark haired family, it's there on full display for all too see.

Who's your daddy? It ain't that Kuhn T.

A message from Thaksin to the rice farmers:

A stage full of monkeys!!!

Let it be indeed. You stay dirt poor but I and my friends here get richer after stealing your money.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Dogmatix

[Skywalker69]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

Are you one of Thaksin's 'cyber warriors'?

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[seajae]

The farmers were probably led a bit blindly into this scheme on the trust of the red shiorts that were promoting it for thaksin so the ptp would win the election. Now what have the ptp done for these innocent farmers, absolutely nothing but destroy them and cause 7 to kill themsleves, to top it off they show no sympathy what so ever and the red scum that come in here are doing the same thing, screw the farmers as long as we stay in power. They blame suthep(even though he is an idiot as well) for it yet he is not the one that didnt pay them the money owed or payments past due because that allows them to sleep at night thinking they are perfect, you want to blame people, blame those backing the reds and the ptp/thaksin because they are directly responsible for all of this sh*t, anyone that tries to turn it away is simply being two faced and pandering to thaksin, they dont care about the farmers that die just themselves and their biased crap. Anyone coming in here now and saying it is sutheps fault is being pathetic, find your balls and be honest about it, you know who is to blame but simply cannot admit your own guilt in backing them. Lets hope that the dying over the rice scam has ended, enough farmers have paid with their lives for the ptp/red scum already

[moonao]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

I think Suthep is feeling guilty, the murderous scumbag has changed his mind, I see in another headline he is asking commercial banks to approve loans.

Those of us that live out here have a very good handle on what is going on day to day in both the political and social issues of this country. We are all pretty much aware of who has done what and who is responsible, we have our gripes with each other but comments have never beens so disgusting as in the last two months. For the best part of those two months now TV has been inflltrated by folks with a very recent join date and in comparison a very large post rate. The 3 guys above along with 'Pipkins', come on in and deliberately try to inflame ANY thread on this forum. There is a forum rule that is broken by the 4 guys above almost on a continuous basis:

5) Not to post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling.Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

I respectfully request that these guys should be 'looked' in to in terms of posts, IP addresses etc etc for duplicate accounts. It is clear since the beginning of these troubles they have engaged in nothing but the most provocative of statements and comments that has been designed to nothing other than inflame argument. The first one is a prime example. ANYBODY knows that the current tragedy involving the farmers is an ongoing long term issue caused by the Government. Yet just to throw some gasoline on the fire prbkk comes out with "Tragic. More blood on Suthep's hands. His vindictive efforts to block these payments will come back to haunt him". Now in no way can that be considered a reasonable comment by any reasonable thinking person. Whilst it may be good for post count figures it is definitely not good for this site that these trolls are roaming freely and currently inflaming every single thread.

By the way prbkk what is 'vindictive' would be someone forwarding your comment above to Sutheps legal team, because for around $1500 they would start a class action against this site, in order to avoid such an action the site owners would be requested to provide your complete registration and account details within 7 days so that you could have your ass sued off or be thrown in jail. Failure of a site to provide the details subjects them to the same class action and makes them responsible (this is a process going on all over the world and is subject to both local and international law), so what do you think they would do. The comments above are reprehensible. It is hardly surprising that so many members have posts deleted claiming that people must be being paid to comment as how else can they rationalize how such blatantly wrong and inflaming comments make their way on here. For me I just put it down to nasty ill-informed people wanting to jerk off at the anger they cause. In this case, site satisfaction and contentment is inversely proportional to the number of post counts. I am all for people having different opinions but the four above take it way too far. Enough is enough.

Next time you have a hissy fit, why don't have a read of a Yingluck thread ? The snide, hate filled comments by some of the low life critters are disgraceful. Like her or hate her, she has shown a lot more class and maturity than Suthep or Abhisit, and a lot of posters on here for that matter. Why anyone still supports Suthep the aspiring bonehead dictator charged with murder, is beyond me but thats just my opinion and I can live with others opinions without having a hissy fit. Finally, open you eyes and have a look around. Suthep loving , nasty Thakin hating trolls galore. Please don't tell me you are shocked and deny it.... if you do you will have lost pretty much all credibility

ps i did have a chuckle at the irony of presumably a Abhisit/Suthep supporter pursuing cheap pseudo legal means to silence opponents and lobby courts. The dems would be proud.

Edited February 12, 2014 by moonao

[neverdie]

What a sad state of affairs.

I'm not sure what's more disgusting, the vile nature of what's occurring in this country ATM, most of which has resulted from nothing more than greed and stupidity OR the belligerence of some of the people writing the daily drivel that seems to appear on these pages in the same pattern, day in, day out.

I sure as he'll can't see a way forward in all this mess, the complexity of the lies, deceit, manipulation and evil is almost beyond comprehension. The amusing part of it is that there seems to be so many here that THINK they know what's going but in reality they probably couldn't be further from the truth.

I certainly find it amazing that there's so many 'expert' farang on this forum, most of which neither speak or read Thai, most of which have little or at best poor knowledge of the history and culture of Thai people yet they supposedly know so much. Come on give it a break !

I hope there are no more farmers that commit suicide over this and my thoughts are with all the families affected by the actions of these 7 farmers and the difficulties they must now be facing.

[Yunla]

RIP, my prayers are with the family involved in this truly heartbreaking story.

I hope that Yingluck & Co read this article, and realise that their opportunistic scam has had unforgivable repercussions and are an act of mass-oppression against some of the poorest and most unfortunate people in this great nation.

[Siripon]

The farmers were promised every grain of rice was covered by the scheme so many planted as much as they could, renting land, borrowing from cooperatives and/or the BAAAC for fertilizer,, costs of ploughing, labour for planting and harvesting, insecticides.

Now the coop, bank and loan sharks are calling in the debts.

The government owe it to the farmers to pay them as soon as possible..

But they are having difficulty selling old, overpriced rice to foreign sceptics.

[GentlemanJim]

Next time you have a hissy fit, why don't have a read of a Yingluck thread ? The snide, hate filled comments by some of the low life critters are disgraceful. Like her or hate her, she has shown a lot more class and maturity than Suthep or Abhisit, and a lot of posters on here for that matter. Why anyone still supports Suthep the aspiring bonehead dictator charged with murder, is beyond me but thats just my opinion and I can live with others opinions without having a hissy fit. Finally, open you eyes and have a look around. Suthep loving , nasty Thakin hating trolls galore. Please don't tell me you are shocked and deny it.... if you do you will have lost pretty much all credibility

ps i did have a chuckle at the irony of presumably a Abhisit/Suthep supporter pursuing cheap pseudo legal means to silence opponents and lobby courts. The dems would be proud.

Please describe to me what class and maturity Yingluck has displayed above Abhisit. I am intrigued.

I am not a Suthep supporter and imagine that his nature and lack of forward thinking would drive many decent folks on TV to the same conclusion in that he does not appear to have an exit strategy. However, his bullish nature is exactly what is needed for Thailand right now in order to get this corrupt bunch of criminals out of office and hopefully where they belong, behind bars, but I won't hold my breath. At least he has helped bring these charlatans to the attention of the international media and their time is numbered. What will you and your fellow amigo's do then, maybe go register on the bitches r us forum, you should fit in well.

There are opinions and then there are statements made that no rational, educated moral person would make. Nobody who is objective and well read could possibly come out with the utter bolleux that you, Pipkins, ShannonT and prrbkk come out with. It beggars belief that you continue to post such stuff. I have tried as I might to understand how you guys arrive at your conclusions but without success. We are on a different intellectual plain.

You reveal quite clearly your own level of intellect when you continue to refer to 'Suthep charged with murder'! If you are unable to rationalize what that charge was all about and the fact that it will never hold water in any court then I pity you. Have Abhisit and Suthep run away to Dubai....no. Have they booked tickets to the winter olympics never to return....no.

I have no need to tell you what shocks me or indeed to deny anything with the likes of you, and the thought that you consider that I would value your consideration that I am credible in your eyes indicates that you really do value your opinion and your ego a little too much. There are excellent people on this site, people with whom I and others have polar opposite views, but we are able to engage each other in well thought out considered argument and sometimes we sway each others views. But you and your little clique of friends do not belong in that group. I am not interested in the slightest whether you think I am credible or not. The comments made by the four of you are in the main, boorish, vile and dispicable. You have turned this normally enjoyable news forum into a place where a rational thinking person finds it difficult to dwell. The majority that come here do so to debate news and current affairs in an adult manner, you and your other three amigos come here to wind people up plain and simple.

By the way, i never stated any 'cheap pseudo legal means' to silence anyone. The process I outlined is very real and incredibly effective. It is not meant to silence anyone, it is meant to make you fully aware that everyone can be held accountable for what they say. This site and every other site on the net is NOT anonymous. Freedom of speech has responsibility and accountability and those that deserve freedom of speech are fully aware of that. If you don't understand what freedom of speech means and the consequences of its use then you should have worked harder at school. Freedom of speech does not mean you are allowed to besmirch people or to accuse them of crimes without any evidence whatsoever. Sure, you can say it, but there will be and can be accountability. There are many folks who have lost everything from class actions brought about by their conduct on 'anonymous internet forums'. So you and prbkk can consider it a 'friendly warning' though I would be perturbed if you read too much in to the 'friend'. Its a bit like a risk management situation really in that you should ask yourself the question 'Is what I potentially risk worth what I am getting out of it'. Thats all

[belg]

thanks to the : i dont save any baht for a rainy day, as i could be dead tomorrow, attitude

many thai people have 0 baht saved up when shit like this hit the fan

sorry he had no farang ATM family member he could milk, this time for a good reason

so buddist people cannot do abortion, but suicide is ok ?

no temples that could have helped him? seems a like seem to swim in money from donations

[aimbc]

The problem here is that Thais think they will get a lot of money, but it is not in their hand, but that does not stop them from going out and borrow on money they have not even seen yet.

It is understandable that some people do that. But you are being too cynical about Thais they are not as naive as you. You would think that they have not seen it yet. What really happened is that the government defrauded the farmers by trading their rice for a piece of worthless paper. Paper that is suppose to represent hard cash. They have seen the money, otherwise they would have handed over their rice to the government. But unfortunately, the administration lack of moral and ethical value abused the democratic system by using it as a means to trick the farmers into trusting them. And you helped validate the corrupt government actions.

And that brings us to another point about politicizing the farmers plight. If anything it's the PTP that took the cake on that one. Offer some unsustainable policies in the name of these poor farmers and then rip them off and then have the audacity to ask all of Thailand to pay for their robbery. Good going all you PTP supporters. You hardly care about anyone else but yourself. It is clear you don't know the true meaning of democracy.

[billd766]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

If government paid the farmers they didn't need to borrow .

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

These are earlier loans to buy new trucks, big-screen TVs, Galaxy phones, and other farming essentials.

Can you please tell us all which rural village you live in so that we can see these items.

Out in the village where I live called Klong Lan, where co-incidently a farmers wife killed herself as the government had NOT paid her for the crops she sold to them, not many people have new trucks, big-screen TVs Galaxy tads and Iphones. At least none of the farming people that I know have them.

Never mind, don't let the truth get in the way when lies suit your purpose better.

Edited February 13, 2014 by billd766

[Skywalker69]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

If government paid the farmers they didn't need to borrow .

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

These are earlier loans to buy new trucks, big-screen TVs, Galaxy phones, and other farming essentials.

Can you please tell us all which rural village you live in so that we can see these items.

Out in the village where I live called Klong Lan, where co-incidently a farmers wife killed herself as the government had NOT paid her for the crops she sold to them, not many people have new trucks, big-screen TVs Galaxy tads and Iphones. At least none of the farming people that I know have them.

Never mind, don't let the truth get in the way when lies suit your purpose better.

The so called TV red supporters don't support the poor, they support Thaksin and Yingluck.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[Bluespunk]

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

If government paid the farmers they didn't need to borrow .

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

These are earlier loans to buy new trucks, big-screen TVs, Galaxy phones, and other farming essentials.

Can you please tell us all which rural village you live in so that we can see these items.

Out in the village where I live called Klong Lan, where co-incidently a farmers wife killed herself as the government had NOT paid her for the crops she sold to them, not many people have new trucks, big-screen TVs Galaxy tads and Iphones. At least none of the farming people that I know have them.

Never mind, don't let the truth get in the way when lies suit your purpose better.

Well said.

[billd766]

thanks to the : i dont save any baht for a rainy day, as i could be dead tomorrow, attitude

many thai people have 0 baht saved up when shit like this hit the fan

sorry he had no farang ATM family member he could milk, this time for a good reason

so buddist people cannot do abortion, but suicide is ok ?

no temples that could have helped him? seems a like seem to swim in money from donations

1 How can you save money when you get little enough money anyway and then the people who promised to pay you reneged on that promise and you get NO money to feed your family let alone pay your bills?

2 Sorry he had no farang ATM family member he could milk is one of the most offensive comments I have read for a long while and shows the mental level you have achieved in your life.

3 Suicide is not acceptable in Thai society from the top to the bottom and to have been driven there show the depth of despair many farmers have reached. I hope that no Thai ever gets there again.

4 Obviously you live in a city and not in rural Thailand. There is a temple up the road in my village that cannot cremate people who die simply because they have no cremation facilities at all. How can temples in the countryside swim in donations when the people are poor farmers? Having said that many people around the village where I live donate food to the monks every morning,and yes my wife and her friends do most days. Do you and your wife donate to the temples?

Yes you can go to the temple and eat but it will be after the monks have eaten.

Yes you can sleep at the temples but you will be asked to donate your labour or help out wherever you can.

In rural Thailand the people generally try to help each other with what and how they can or at least that is what I have seen during the last 10 years I have lived in the countryside.

Please take your head out of the sand (I try to be polite most of the time) and try living in rural Thailand for a year or so and see if your attitude changes.

[Cuchulainn]

.........Those of us that live out here have a very good handle on what is going on day to day in both the political and social issues of this country. We are all pretty much aware of who has done what and who is responsible, we have our gripes with each other but comments have never beens so disgusting as in the last two months. For the best part of those two months now TV has been inflltrated by folks with a very recent join date and in comparison a very large post rate. The 3 guys above along with 'Pipkins', come on in and deliberately try to inflame ANY thread on this forum. There is a forum rule that is broken by the 4 guys above almost on a continuous basis:............

..........I respectfully request that these guys should be 'looked' in to in terms of posts, IP addresses etc etc for duplicate accounts. It is clear since the beginning of these troubles they have engaged in nothing but the most provocative of statements and comments that has been designed to nothing other than inflame argument. ...............

Hear hear!! Well said, that man.

[Davidhere]

L

They don't hang themselves because they don't get the money from the rice.

They hang themselves because they borrowed at ridiculous rates and the loan sharks run behind .

If government paid the farmers they didn't need to borrow .

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These are earlier loans to buy new trucks, big-screen TVs, Galaxy phones, and other farming essentials.

Can you please tell us all which rural village you live in so that we can see these items.

Out in the village where I live called Klong Lan, where co-incidently a farmers wife killed herself as the government had NOT paid her for the crops she sold to them, not many people have new trucks, big-screen TVs Galaxy tads and Iphones. At least none of the farming people that I know have them.

Never mind, don't let the truth get in the way when lies suit your purpose better.

One would imagine that Jomtien serves as a barometer for what constitutes a "rural village" for OMGImInPattaya.