Lite Beer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 61 alleged protest financiers to be named tomorrow or Monday BANGKOK: -- The Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) is expected to release a list of 61 individuals suspected to have provided financial support to anti-government protesters tomorrow (Thursday) or next Monday the latest. Pol Colonel Sihanart Prayoonrat, secretary-general of Anti-Money Laundering Office, said today that investigators had collected enough evidences to prove against 61 individuals for allegedly providing financial support to the People’s Democratic Reform Committee.The list of this group of supporters will be disclosed tomorrow or next Monday the latest, he said, adding that additional lists will be released if more evidences are collected.The colonel said that in the next step a list of corporations suspected to giving financial support to PDRC would be released and executives of the corporations would be summoned for questioning. Defying the summonses will be liable to two years imprisonment and/or a fine of 40,000 baht.Meanwhile Department of Special Investigation chief Tarit Pengdit said his department had complied 125 cases of election disruptions and 105 cases of election officials abandoning their duty on the election day.He said that 45 government offices had been open to normal operations. He also claimed that the number of protesters had dropped substantially citing February 11 when the total number of protesters at all protest sites has dropped to 4,060 only. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/61-alleged-protest-financiers-named-tomorrow-monday/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=61-alleged-protest-financiers-named-tomorrow-monday -- Thai PBS 2014-02-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm confused. The DSI backs down from revealing the names and now the CMPO will do it instead? What a bunch dysfunctional idiots! Make up your minds what you guys want to do already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Name and Shame boys, let's see what happens after. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post focus27 Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2014 They had better have all their facts absolutely correct or this is going to turn into a feast for lawyers! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ETatBKK Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2014 RT @veen_NT: #Chalerm: Any firm not supporting PDRC, may yr business prosper. Those support them, may yr business go bankrupt in 6mon-1yr. via @Tik_NT this is just ridiculous from a high government official. if these companies go bankruptcy, what Thai economy would be ? shut your bid up ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up-country_sinclair Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't this run afoul of Thai libel laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeybik Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Much of what is being financed must be the street festivals that are occupying Asoke, Sala Daeng and wherever... so who "allowed" these to be erected? Just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't this run afoul of Thai libel laws? That may well be a good question in many countries, but here at the moment it seems to be a shoot first ask questions later sort of situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 They had better have all their facts absolutely correct or this is going to turn into a feast for lawyers! Yip, the lawyers will be raising champagne tonight. Great news if they go ahead and publish. People will be queueing up to get a bit of Chalerm or Tarit ass. To be honest I think it's just more rhetoric and BS, come Monday they will back down and there will be no list, they are just trying to back down slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2014 This is madness. Pheu Thai have been all over the map on this issue. 136 people to be named. Then 58 people to be named. Then no one to be named ( due to lack of evidence ). Now 61 people to be named ( now loads of evidence ) Tomorrow. Or Monday ! What is going on ? First of all, evidence about what ? Contributing to a protest the Constitutional Court deemed was constitutional ? Why stop at 61 ? Why not include the thousands of people on the streets who have contributed to the PDRC ? What about the thousands of people on the streets who have contributed to the farmers ? Are they to be prosecuted too ? What about the thousands of people who have contributed to the Pheu Thai party ? What about the thousands of people who have contributed to the other political parties ? This administration is out of control. They are now hopelessly addicted to indictments. ( Except their own ). They are embarrassing themselves. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Name and Shame boys, let's see what happens after. Into the courts. Quickly. So far the courts have opined that the PDRC's protests are not illegal. Some of the actions taken by some of the protestors may be illegal, but the CMPO will have to prove that financial supporters were directly financing specific illegal actions, not supporting the not illegal protests. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) This is madness. Pheu Thai have been all over the map on this issue. 136 people to be named. Then 58 people to be named. Then no one to be named ( due to lack of evidence ). Now 61 people to be named ( now loads of evidence ) Tomorrow. Or Monday ! What is going on ? First of all, evidence about what ? Contributing to a protest the Constitutional Court deemed was constitutional ? Why stop at 61 ? Why not include the thousands of people on the streets who have contributed to the PDRC ? What about the thousands of people on the streets who have contributed to the farmers ? Are they to be prosecuted too ? What about the thousands of people who have contributed to the Pheu Thai party ? What about the thousands of people who have contributed to the other political parties ? This administration is out of control. They are now hopelessly addicted to indictments. ( Except their own ). They are embarrassing themselves. Does sound like a load of red bull. Edited February 12, 2014 by bigbamboo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy B Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 So Thai time. "We maybe disclose the details tomorrow or sometime when we can be arsed". These people in a government position are so full of crap when it comes to trying to look big but afraid to look small. The reason being they have no CLUE what they are supposed to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't this run afoul of Thai libel laws?That may well be a good question in many countries, but here at the moment it seems to be a shoot first ask questions later sort of situation. lhrh.jpg The winner takes the spoils. Is it legal to campaign for a boycott, or would that fall foul of libel too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamMunich Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I wonder what the consequences would be, if somebody or some company is proven to have funded the protesters? What legal consequences would that have? People going to jail? Fined? For what exactly? Everybody is talking about the people putting in their money, but nobody dares to say, what would be wrong with this? After all, even with emergency in a tiny bit of the country, these people have largely funded political action groups (as the US calls that PACs). And what, if e.g. a company located outside the emergency rule area is putting in money,how or what would that make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus27 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 This is madness. Pheu Thai have been all over the map on this issue. 136 people to be named. Then 58 people to be named. Then no one to be named ( due to lack of evidence ). Now 61 people to be named ( now loads of evidence ) Tomorrow. Or Monday ! What is going on ? First of all, evidence about what ? Contributing to a protest the Constitutional Court deemed was constitutional ? Why stop at 61 ? Why not include the thousands of people on the streets who have contributed to the PDRC ? What about the thousands of people on the streets who have contributed to the farmers ? Are they to be prosecuted too ? What about the thousands of people who have contributed to the Pheu Thai party ? What about the thousands of people who have contributed to the other political parties ? This administration is out of control. They are now hopelessly addicted to indictments. ( Except their own ). They are embarrassing themselves. I suspect all this pissing around is that they are double checking whether any names are also PTP sponsors Not uncommon for corporations to back both sides of a conflict and reap the rewards from the winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 What do they want to achieve? Where is the benefit? Which laws the donors have violated?I sponsor my wife too.If she takes part in the protests, I have to fear then?It's just hot air - activism.At the end they will still sue half the population of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Snake Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's stupid to release the list. Just let it leak out to the media from those famous unknown sources. Then neither confirm or denied if those companies or persons are on the list to avoid legal problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 So Thai time. "We maybe disclose the details tomorrow or sometime when we can be arsed". These people in a government position are so full of crap when it comes to trying to look big but afraid to look small. The reason being they have no CLUE what they are supposed to do! The names of companies and individuals were printed in the "other" English language newspaper for all the world to see. I would gladly copy and paste here but that would be a violation of forum rules and a stupid thing to do when all one has to do is visit that newspaper's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit47 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Thats the best promotion a company and the PDRC can have... Chalerms actions show exactly what kind of people this are, and that will give a backfire... Go on Buddy, take a drink and make my day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why ask Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It says 'alleged'. Why a need to comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry1011 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 "He also claimed that the number of protesters had dropped substantially citing February 11 when the total number of protesters at all protest sites has dropped to 4,060 only"... With so few protesters left, Suthep does not need any financial backers anyway. A few thousand baht per day will do... I wonder what these people and businesses were thinking. To go against the will of the majority is a dangerous game. And to finance illegal protests condemned by the whole world is rather silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2014 "He also claimed that the number of protesters had dropped substantially citing February 11 when the total number of protesters at all protest sites has dropped to 4,060 only"... With so few protesters left, Suthep does not need any financial backers anyway. A few thousand baht per day will do... I wonder what these people and businesses were thinking. To go against the will of the majority is a dangerous game. And to finance illegal protests condemned by the whole world is rather silly. Looks like they've been at the government's rice. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilac2 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I reckon that if a bunch of nutcases had erected huge platforms with video screens that were blocking traffic along the length of Piccadilly, the London police might take some action. Ditto at the Capitol in Washington or on the Champs Elysees in Paris, etc etc. It is only because this country is still de facto run by the old elite that Suthep's people can get away with it and the police don't dare to do anything. Just naming the names of the backers is the mildest action one could imagine, when in any decently-run country these fascists would never have been allowed to take over the centre of the capital in the first place. Edited February 12, 2014 by tilac2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted February 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2014 I reckon that if a bunch of nutcases had erected huge platforms with video screens that were blocking traffic along the length of Piccadilly, the London police might take some action. Ditto at the Capitol in Washington or on the Champs Elysees in Paris, etc etc. It is only because this country is still de facto run by the old elite that Suthep's people can get away with it and the police don't dare to do anything. Just naming the names of the backers is the mildest action one could imagine, when in any decently-run country these fascists would never have been allowed to take over the centre of the capital in the first place. How many times was that exact same argument raised about the reds in 2010. So just which elite group allowed the reds to get away with blocking the city center for two months? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Do you get a mass discount for 61 libel cases ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 this is all just too funny, the ptp idiots are becoming worse with each anouncement, I cant wait for the next one now, I just sit here and piss myself laughing at them(and the reds in here, poor little buggers must really be depressed losing everything they touch). One has to wonder how many days are left for this lot, the ptp seem to be on the ropes big time and if they do this it will just create more shit for them, thaksin must be beside himself with all the f**kwitts running the show here now, what a hoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidhere Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's stupid to release the list. Just let it leak out to the media from those famous unknown sources. Then neither confirm or denied if those companies or persons are on the list to avoid legal problems. Won't do much good when CEO's and Chairmen are being issued summons and ordered to appear for questioning. executives of the corporations would be summoned for questioning. Defying the summonses will be liable to two years imprisonment and/or a fine of 40,000 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Opposition to the PDRC, or even just expressing political dissent to Thaksin and his regime, is becoming notoriously difficult. Despite this there is still a good deal of opposition to the PTP. Most anti-government activities have to currently be conducted in secret because of the expansive Thaksin tomato police state and the wide-ranging power of agencies like the CMPO and the DSI. The PTP regime's dictatorial leadership and populist policies in 2011 also meant that it remained popular with many Thai's until now, some of whom were willing to denounce all those involved in the PDRC. Fair enough right? Now read the link below.. http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/opposition-to-the-nazis/ Tell me what the difference is apart from the color of the shirts. That's a rhetorical question by the way. Edited February 12, 2014 by djjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidhere Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I reckon that if a bunch of nutcases had erected huge platforms with video screens that were blocking traffic along the length of Piccadilly, the London police might take some action. Ditto at the Capitol in Washington or on the Champs Elysees in Paris, etc etc. It is only because this country is still de facto run by the old elite that Suthep's people can get away with it and the police don't dare to do anything. Just naming the names of the backers is the mildest action one could imagine, when in any decently-run country these fascists would never have been allowed to take over the centre of the capital in the first place. How do you explain your "old elite" allowing Jatuporn's "bunch of nutcases" to get away with it for months? Edited February 12, 2014 by Davidhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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