Thai government supporters vow to 'deal with' Bangkok protesters

[jollyman]

Well its Thailand, a land inhabited by a population with mentality of 8 year olds!

[NongKhaiKid]

If YL is having any thoughts of doing a runner this might help her make up her mind

If the reds go for it she has double trouble as she is currently responsible for Chalerm, Tarit and the CMPO and then can't wash her hands of the reds in action.

[Old Man River]

The court has ruled the protest is legal. If Reds attack protestors, the Royal Thai Police need to put a stop to it quickly. Every time they don't arrest perpetrators, they add credence to the PDRC's claim that the RTP needs to be overhauled. Even the Caretaker government is discussing things with the courts (Rule of Law).

And what if the UDD has a legal protest? What if the UDD supporters come to Bangkok to make their views known? Why would their protest be any less legal than that of the PDRC?

The groundwork was laid when the lower court said the civil disorder caused by the PDRC was acceptable. The government's hands were tied. And now you want the government which was precluded from acting against the protestors who are violent, to act against possible UDD protestors who have yet to protest. Old saying: As ye sow, so shall yee reap.

Where did this comment come from? If you just wanted to say it, then say it.

I said if the Red's attack the protestors. Read my comments again. When you understand them, you will understand that I am also saying if the protestors attack the Red Shirts, same same.

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[zydeco]

In light of the unspeakable occurrence in Trat yesterday, the timing of Jataporn's words could not have been worse, nor more tasteless, especially as no reference was made to the tragedy - as it so clearly contrasts with the UDD's narrative. There is no question - if the methods of the UDD in 2010 are any indication - that we could be - at least potentially - on the cusp of civil strife and division on the streets not seen before in the country in many years. And if that happens, and these clashes occur, it is not clear if even the army would be able to restore control or peace. That is how potentially bad this could become. The problem with the Yingluck administration - from this arena alone - is that the administration has been viewed as being simply too closely aligned to the UDD to be able to be viewed as non-partisan. In the eyes of the public, the UDD and Pheu Thai have always been two sides of the same coin. And Yingluck's statements as of late have been jaw-dropping in what increasingly appears to be an effort to stoke the hatred within the UDD. She is hitting all the familiar UDD buttons - implying the NACC is politically motivated and is out to get her. The UDD have already been openly hostile to the Constitutional Court, the Supreme Court, the EC, the NACC, and now the Civil Court. Yingluck has fed into that narrative, in the most irresponsible manner possible, in her capacity as leader. If she is seen to have consciously fueled distrust within the UDD movement, she will ultimately be deemed responsible. It will have been the clearest abdication of her public responsibilities.

The mask is off. This is the real face of Tida and her "ex" Communists. After decades of pretend "non-violence" the terror wave is about to be launched. The only people who will be surprised are those who didn't listen to the words they spoke or the things they wrote, which were filled with Maoist cant and the bloated pronouncements that always emanate from these "re-educators" and designers of a "scientific society." Yes, do get ready. These people could plunge this country into darkness.

Edited February 23, 2014 by zydeco

[JRSoul]

The court has ruled the protest is legal. If Reds attack protestors, the Royal Thai Police need to put a stop to it quickly. Every time they don't arrest perpetrators, they add credence to the PDRC's claim that the RTP needs to be overhauled. Even the Caretaker government is discussing things with the courts (Rule of Law).

And what if the UDD has a legal protest? What if the UDD supporters come to Bangkok to make their views known? Why would their protest be any less legal than that of the PDRC?

The groundwork was laid when the lower court said the civil disorder caused by the PDRC was acceptable. The government's hands were tied. And now you want the government which was precluded from acting against the protestors who are violent, to act against possible UDD protestors who have yet to protest. Old saying: As ye sow, so shall yee reap.

<deleted>? UDD did come to BKK, and those involved in violence against them have been arrested and charged. Who has been arrested for the much more frequent attacks on anti-government protesters? Are you using some old cobblers to justify political murder?

Consider your own saying. If the attacks on the protesters continue, why would assassination of PTP leaders be unacceptable?

[Barney R]

In light of the unspeakable occurrence in Trat yesterday, the timing of Jataporn's words could not have been worse, nor more tasteless, especially as no reference was made to the tragedy - as it so clearly contrasts with the UDD's narrative. There is no question - if the methods of the UDD in 2010 are any indication - that we could be - at least potentially - on the cusp of civil strife and division on the streets not seen before in the country in many years. And if that happens, and these clashes occur, it is not clear if even the army would be able to restore control or peace. That is how potentially bad this could become. The problem with the Yingluck administration - from this arena alone - is that the administration has been viewed as being simply too closely aligned to the UDD to be able to be viewed as non-partisan. In the eyes of the public, the UDD and Pheu Thai have always been two sides of the same coin. And Yingluck's statements as of late have been jaw-dropping in what increasingly appears to be an effort to stoke the hatred within the UDD. She is hitting all the familiar UDD buttons - implying the NACC is politically motivated and is out to get her. The UDD have already been openly hostile to the Constitutional Court, the Supreme Court, the EC, the NACC, and now the Civil Court. Yingluck has fed into that narrative, in the most irresponsible manner possible, in her capacity as leader. If she is seen to have consciously fueled distrust within the UDD movement, she will ultimately be deemed responsible. It will have been the clearest abdication of her public responsibilities.

Which begs the question "where is Yingluck " ? When all is being ripped apart here in Thailand and anarchy is at its doorstep , when responsible and clear leadership is needed just where is she ?

[binjalin]

Of course there's bias, some here would actually like to see peaceful protests. I see that you are not one of them. What a charming fellow you must be

what a sham your posts are

most want to see the democratically elected government left alone by the fascists

I observe you are NOT a democrat but support a fascist council you bounder!

[Rich teacher]

In light of the unspeakable occurrence in Trat yesterday, the timing of Jataporn's words could not have been worse, nor more tasteless, especially as no reference was made to the tragedy - as it so clearly contrasts with the UDD's narrative. There is no question - if the methods of the UDD in 2010 are any indication - that we could be - at least potentially - on the cusp of civil strife and division on the streets not seen before in the country in many years. And if that happens, and these clashes occur, it is not clear if even the army would be able to restore control or peace. That is how potentially bad this could become. The problem with the Yingluck administration - from this arena alone - is that the administration has been viewed as being simply too closely aligned to the UDD to be able to be viewed as non-partisan. In the eyes of the public, the UDD and Pheu Thai have always been two sides of the same coin. And Yingluck's statements as of late have been jaw-dropping in what increasingly appears to be an effort to stoke the hatred within the UDD. She is hitting all the familiar UDD buttons - implying the NACC is politically motivated and is out to get her. The UDD have already been openly hostile to the Constitutional Court, the Supreme Court, the EC, the NACC, and now the Civil Court. Yingluck has fed into that narrative, in the most irresponsible manner possible, in her capacity as leader. If she is seen to have consciously fueled distrust within the UDD movement, she will ultimately be deemed responsible. It will have been the clearest abdication of her public responsibilities.

The mask is off. This is the real face of Tida and her "ex" Communists. After decades of pretend "non-violence" the terror wave is about to be launched. The only people who will be surprised are those who didn't listen to the words they spoke or the things they wrote, which were filled with Maoist cant and the bloated pronouncements that always emanate from these "re-educators" and designers of a "scientific society." Yes, do get ready. These people could plunge this country into darkness.

Suthep's mask is well & truly off isn't it, stating that he loves people shooting war weapons in public areas. Stop blaming one side when the other side is only too willing to use violence to further its cause.

[bkkjames]

Show a pair and say that to the faces of the parents of the dead and wounded children.

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[Tatsujin]

I await the announcement from either Yingluck or the CMPO condemning these statements for inciting and promoting violence and asking them to follow the rule of law and allow the Police to deal with the protests.

[than]

Another Sportpalast speech by Jatuporn. Isn't he out on bail?

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yes but under protection of Tarit he cannot return to jail

[zydeco]

In light of the unspeakable occurrence in Trat yesterday, the timing of Jataporn's words could not have been worse, nor more tasteless, especially as no reference was made to the tragedy - as it so clearly contrasts with the UDD's narrative. There is no question - if the methods of the UDD in 2010 are any indication - that we could be - at least potentially - on the cusp of civil strife and division on the streets not seen before in the country in many years. And if that happens, and these clashes occur, it is not clear if even the army would be able to restore control or peace. That is how potentially bad this could become. The problem with the Yingluck administration - from this arena alone - is that the administration has been viewed as being simply too closely aligned to the UDD to be able to be viewed as non-partisan. In the eyes of the public, the UDD and Pheu Thai have always been two sides of the same coin. And Yingluck's statements as of late have been jaw-dropping in what increasingly appears to be an effort to stoke the hatred within the UDD. She is hitting all the familiar UDD buttons - implying the NACC is politically motivated and is out to get her. The UDD have already been openly hostile to the Constitutional Court, the Supreme Court, the EC, the NACC, and now the Civil Court. Yingluck has fed into that narrative, in the most irresponsible manner possible, in her capacity as leader. If she is seen to have consciously fueled distrust within the UDD movement, she will ultimately be deemed responsible. It will have been the clearest abdication of her public responsibilities.

The mask is off. This is the real face of Tida and her "ex" Communists. After decades of pretend "non-violence" the terror wave is about to be launched. The only people who will be surprised are those who didn't listen to the words they spoke or the things they wrote, which were filled with Maoist cant and the bloated pronouncements that always emanate from these "re-educators" and designers of a "scientific society." Yes, do get ready. These people could plunge this country into darkness.

Suthep's mask is well & truly off isn't it, stating that he loves people shooting war weapons in public areas. Stop blaming one side when the other side is only too willing to use violence to further its cause.

The last time the government claimed to have found "war weapons" with Suthep's group, the "weapons" turned out to be bullet proof vests. Yes, purely defensive "weapons." The Red Terror attack in Trat last night, in which children were murdered while washing dishes at a noodle stand is where the UDDers, the government's allies, are taking Thailand. They are monsters, and so is anyone who tries to dissemble their purpose in postings to this forum.

[sscsamui]

More Bombs and Blood. The way of the Reds…

[than]

This move of UDD is call for confrontation protester to force army intervention and drive Thailand to the civil war that UDD wish for Taksin....

[TVGerry]

This has been Suthep's strategy since the army refused to side with him. He now needs the reds to come out to confront him in order to bring out the troops. His despicable taunts and threats have been directed at the reds in order to provoke a reaction.

That's the stupidest thing you've written so far and that says a lot.

The reds coming out wanting to do violence is Suthep's fault? Seriously?

Did he shoot up their stage? Did he toss grenades while they rallied?

[TVGerry]

In light of the unspeakable occurrence in Trat yesterday, the timing of Jataporn's words could not have been worse, nor more tasteless, especially as no reference was made to the tragedy - as it so clearly contrasts with the UDD's narrative. There is no question - if the methods of the UDD in 2010 are any indication - that we could be - at least potentially - on the cusp of civil strife and division on the streets not seen before in the country in many years. And if that happens, and these clashes occur, it is not clear if even the army would be able to restore control or peace. That is how potentially bad this could become. The problem with the Yingluck administration - from this arena alone - is that the administration has been viewed as being simply too closely aligned to the UDD to be able to be viewed as non-partisan. In the eyes of the public, the UDD and Pheu Thai have always been two sides of the same coin. And Yingluck's statements as of late have been jaw-dropping in what increasingly appears to be an effort to stoke the hatred within the UDD. She is hitting all the familiar UDD buttons - implying the NACC is politically motivated and is out to get her. The UDD have already been openly hostile to the Constitutional Court, the Supreme Court, the EC, the NACC, and now the Civil Court. Yingluck has fed into that narrative, in the most irresponsible manner possible, in her capacity as leader. If she is seen to have consciously fueled distrust within the UDD movement, she will ultimately be deemed responsible. It will have been the clearest abdication of her public responsibilities.

The mask is off. This is the real face of Tida and her "ex" Communists. After decades of pretend "non-violence" the terror wave is about to be launched. The only people who will be surprised are those who didn't listen to the words they spoke or the things they wrote, which were filled with Maoist cant and the bloated pronouncements that always emanate from these "re-educators" and designers of a "scientific society." Yes, do get ready. These people could plunge this country into darkness.

Suthep's mask is well & truly off isn't it, stating that he loves people shooting war weapons in public areas. Stop blaming one side when the other side is only too willing to use violence to further its cause.

Oh yeah. Protest sites have been shot at and bombed countless times in the months since the protests started, culminating in last night's cowardly attack. Yeah you going to blame Suthep for that too?

[Why ask]

Well its Thailand, a land inhabited by a population with mentality of 8 year olds!

That pretty much sums you up. So you moved here to be with all your peers, mai na?

[AleG]

This has been Suthep's strategy since the army refused to side with him. He now needs the reds to come out to confront him in order to bring out the troops. His despicable taunts and threats have been directed at the reds in order to provoke a reaction.

Yes, poor darlings, being forced into murdering innocent people by the words of a big bad man.

[zydeco]

Never forget that many of these squirrely Maoist groups have been lying in wait for years, if not decades, to achieve their ambitions of social revolutionary transformation. They've turned Nepal into a nuthouse, they infest the jungles of the Philippines and India, and now they are resurfacing, here, in Thailand. The true heirs to Peru's Shining Path. Tida and her Maoist terror gang.

Edited February 23, 2014 by zydeco

[geriatrickid]

Never forget that many of these squirrely Maoist groups have been lying in wait for years, if not decades, to achieve their ambitions of social revolutionary transformation. They've turned Nepal into a nuthouse, they infest the jungles of the Philippines and India, and now they are resurfacing, here, in Thailand. The true heirs to Peru's Shining Path. Tida and her Maoist terror gang.

Do you check under your bed at night to see if there are commies hiding there?

[zydeco]

Never forget that many of these squirrely Maoist groups have been lying in wait for years, if not decades, to achieve their ambitions of social revolutionary transformation. They've turned Nepal into a nuthouse, they infest the jungles of the Philippines and India, and now they are resurfacing, here, in Thailand. The true heirs to Peru's Shining Path. Tida and her Maoist terror gang.

Do you check under your bed at night to see if there are commies hiding there?

Any comment you might make is utterly discredited. Tida and her gang have announced a wave of violence. Coming on the heels of last night's terror attack in Trat, this amounts to a declaration of a Red Terror war. You may imagine yourself as some sort of electronic Graham Greene, but your attempt to belittle these threats of terror from the UDDers makes anything you have to say worthless.

[PatOngo]

Neither side is smart enough to sit down and work this out logically.Neither side will concede the face to compromise.Of course there will be violence.TIT...this is Thainess!.....Get Real!

[Goat Roper]

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Never forget that many of these squirrely Maoist groups have been lying in wait for years, if not decades, to achieve their ambitions of social revolutionary transformation. They've turned Nepal into a nuthouse, they infest the jungles of the Philippines and India, and now they are resurfacing, here, in Thailand. The true heirs to Peru's Shining Path. Tida and her Maoist terror gang.

Do you check under your bed at night to see if there are commies hiding there?

Gkid, what a silly and childless thing to say. My guess is that you are barely out of your teen years.

[geriatrickid]

&lt;deleted&gt;? UDD did come to BKK, and those involved in violence against them have been arrested and charged. Who has been arrested for the much more frequent attacks on anti-government protesters? Are you using some old cobblers to justify political murder?

Consider your own saying. If the attacks on the protesters continue, why would assassination of PTP leaders be unacceptable?

The UDD has basically stayed out of the current protests by the PDRC. We should be grateful that they stayed away, otherwise there would be battered bodies all over the place as city dwellers are no match for hard scrabble rural dwellers who are used to going without the comforts of modern life. The unfortunate reality is that once the lower court gave its blessing to the PDRC protestors, it opened the door for other groups to come and protest. It will be difficult for the courts to intervene now that they have said protests are acceptable. One cannot expect the Thai police to effectively intervene because the courts said they are forbidden from using tough measures against protestors.

[bubblegum]

So if you're not a communist you're automatically a fascist according to the Reds on TV

[geriatrickid]

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Never forget that many of these squirrely Maoist groups have been lying in wait for years, if not decades, to achieve their ambitions of social revolutionary transformation. They've turned Nepal into a nuthouse, they infest the jungles of the Philippines and India, and now they are resurfacing, here, in Thailand. The true heirs to Peru's Shining Path. Tida and her Maoist terror gang.

Do you check under your bed at night to see if there are commies hiding there?

Gkid, what a silly and childless thing to say. My guess is that you are barely out of your teen years.

I do try to keep my youthful effervescence glowing.

However, I suggest you read the original statement again. We are treated to the scare tactics of the 1950's all over again. I was considerably more polite and diplomatic than the comment deserved, particularly if one is aware of the origins of the communist issue in Thailand. The communists were the only group willing to resist a very brutal military dictatorship that squashed all opposition. More importantly, there were agreements made that ended the uprising that have since been respected. The Thai communists have kept their side of the agreement, as have successive Thai governments. If anything, the end of the dispute is an example of how Thais can settle their differences and reach a peaceful resolution of a violent disagreement. The collapse of the military dictatorship also helped matters. As such, using the McCarthy era red scare tactics of the 1950's is inappropriate and is contrary to peaceful resolution that was reached. It demonstrates a profound ignorance of Thailand's history and accomplishment of reaching a peaceful settlement.

[siampolee]

Of course Chalerm did actually state there might well be violence involved in dealing with the P.R.D.C. and it would seem as if his threat or promise has come to be true. We now hear violent threats emanating from those two well known bastions of Red Shirt democracy Jutuporn and Thida.

This give rise to suspicions that the current upsurge in violence against the P.R.D.C. is in truth backed by this current caretaker government and its puppet master so as to retain power and continue their skimming off the states coffers.

There is also the strong possibility that there is indeed a fear that the truth is going to become absolutely clear as to the actions of the Shinwatra clan, thus their hold on absolute power needs to be maintained lest the Sword of Damocles should fall upon them and their cronies.

The true face of the Shinwatra clan and their cronies is now showing and indeed it is a face distorted by violence hate and along with an insatiable evil lust for power at any price, financially. politically and human.The megalomaniac leading from the desert in the back of beyond in Dubai is indeed safe financially but perhaps not so safe physically as it may wish to think whatever the outcome may be. However his family here in Thailand will not matter one iota to him, Thaksins gospel is, ''self first and last,'' whatever the situation may be.

Those who back these odious creatures would however do well to remember what had happened to the Red Shirt pawns of 2010, indeed those pawns are the forgotten throw away pieces of the Shinwatra rules campaign movement.

When their usefulness is finished those that survive will be removed from the Shinwatra gravy train have no fear.

[AleG]

The Courts are in the target list, aren't they?

RT@Juarawee: M79 shot at Civic Court (Ratchada) but failed to detonate. tnews.co.th/html/news/8344…

[TVGerry]

Suthep's mask is well & truly off isn't it, stating that he loves people shooting war weapons in public areas. Stop blaming one side when the other side is only too willing to use violence to further its cause.

Oh yeah. Protest sites have been shot at and bombed countless times in the months since the protests started, culminating in last night's cowardly attack. Yeah you going to blame Suthep for that too?

Suthep is to blame for everything. Put Suthep back in his box or a hole in the ground and the travesties, treason, insurrection would never have happened. Thugs come out from under their rotting logs for this and go quiet without leadership. Backroom coup plotters can only plot.

Should of been taken down long ago. Maybe now, ironically, the reds may bring the streets fo Bangkok back to order. Bring it on!

Yes blame Suthep for the red shirts wanting to come out and kill stuff. Remembering 2010, the streets of Bangkok will be brought to order alright. With ashes from burning buildings.

[geriatrickid]

So if you're not a communist you're automatically a fascist according to the Reds on TV

Only in your mind. In Thailand, the Thai people foreigners label as communists would be considered conservative dullards elsewhere. Thai communists had their own interpretation of the ideology. The former communist leadership were mostly alcohol abstainers who viewed alcohol and drugs as serious social burdens. They also had what one could describe as conservative views on such things as prostitution and the sin strips of Patong and Pattaya. If it was up[ to them, Boyztown Pattaya, Bangla Rd. Patong etc. would be closed and the foreigners sent packing. The sex trade workers would be sent to schools or to other jobs. Prostitution was considered to be an exploitation of the poor. Thai communists would have been more at home in the bible belt where such things were forbidden and where the sanctity of the family and community social structure was respected.

I can see why many foreigners would not like these people. BTW, the Thai communists had a very severe approach to government corruption. It is why they aren't likely to be playing golf with some of the military generals or hanging out with Chalerm or Suthep. The Thai communists have never really supported Thaksin. They can't stand him and would like him disappear just as much as the yellow shirts.