Economy, Difference Between Honda 125 and 110.

[NoshowJones]

Can anyone please tell me if there is a difference in economy between a Honda Wave 125 and a Honda 110cc, I was thinking about a new Honda Wave 125, and a family member is selling his almost brand new Honda 110. Sometimes I ride distances of about 80 K at a time. Any help would be appreciated.

[robblok]

Not sure her possum but i think you might have to quote the build year and model. I believe (and could be wrong) that there are different types of the model you mention.

[ll2]

125 cc might give nearly the same consumption as less strain to the engine provided that both are fuel injected.

[NoshowJones]

Not sure her possum but i think you might have to quote the build year and model. I believe (and could be wrong) that there are different types of the model you mention.

Thanks Robblok, the bike is a Honda 110 Wave PGM-F1 fuel injection, less than 6 months old. My present bike is a Honda Wave 125 about 8 years old, and still a great bike. I am not interested in power, just economy and reliability.

[paz]

Click-I might use a little less, and is not even said.

The question is if you want an underbone manual or a flat footrest auto.

If you want economy drive slowly.

[ballbreaker]

OP I don't know how many kilometers per liter you get on your 125 Wave but I am getting around 51-52 kilometers per liter on my 110i Wave running around town in Pattaya. My Wave is the 110i AT version (automatic transmission). I read somewhere they stuck the automatic on the 110i to create the AT version because of its fuel economy. Mine is two years old with almost 18k kilometers and so far trouble free.

I suspect the manual transmission version has much better fuel economy than the AT version.

[Goat Roper]

Isn't the Honda 125 Wave a retooled Honda Super Cub that took the world by storm back in the '60's? They were like ants in my town back in the 60's.

[casualbiker]

around town the 110i will be better than your old 125 wave.. on the longer runs your speed would dictate economy. My wifes 110i is pretty bad on long runs with me riding (but on the few occasions i ride it , i ring its neck)

But around town she likes it.

How much is it selling for?

[NoshowJones]

OP I don't know how many kilometers per liter you get on your 125 Wave but I am getting around 51-52 kilometers per liter on my 110i Wave running around town in Pattaya. My Wave is the 110i AT version (automatic transmission). I read somewhere they stuck the automatic on the 110i to create the AT version because of its fuel economy. Mine is two years old with almost 18k kilometers and so far trouble free.

I suspect the manual transmission version has much better fuel economy than the AT version.

Very interesting Ballbreaker.

[NoshowJones]

Click-I might use a little less, and is not even said.

The question is if you want an underbone manual or a flat footrest auto.

If you want economy drive slowly.

I never drive fast when I am riding my motorbike. I also have a Yamaha Fino, and it uses much more petrol than my Wave 125.

[NoshowJones]

around town the 110i will be better than your old 125 wave.. on the longer runs your speed would dictate economy. My wifes 110i is pretty bad on long runs with me riding (but on the few occasions i ride it , i ring its neck)

But around town she likes it.

How much is it selling for?

I don't know yet, but I am thinking of making an offer for it hence this thread.

[Wong!]

I've had both (at the same time) and didn't notice much difference between them. The 125 has much better gearing for longer runs though.

Edited March 4, 2014 by Wong!

[andreandre]

Click-I might use a little less, and is not even said.

The question is if you want an underbone manual or a flat footrest auto.

If you want economy drive slowly.

Both bikes are waves..

Anyway the difference in fuel economy on all the smaller type bikes would be small...not a concern at all IMO

Comfort and design.eg .storage, auto or manual electric start or kick start only, disc or drum brakes.etc to comply to what you really want to use it for are far more important to me.

Agree for economy..drive slowly..but hell, where do you draw the line..we're not talking gas guzzling monsters here..

Edited March 4, 2014 by andreandre

[Gonsalviz]

I have a hard time believing anyone actually check the fuel economy of a bike this small. They are all cheap to run and maintain.

[ktm jeff]

Unless the 110 is priced right(under 40,000 baht)then buy a far more capable bike for less strain on longer runs or up-hills.Even better would be to buy a far better built bike such as a Lifan 110cc (less than 40,000 baht brand new)or better still , a Yamaha Nouvo.

Edited March 4, 2014 by nigel jeffrey

[casualbiker]

Unless the 110 is priced right(under 40,000 baht)then buy a far more capable bike for less strain on longer runs or up-hills.Even better would be to buy a far better built bike such as a Lifan 110cc (less than 40,000 baht brand new)or better still , a Yamaha Nouvo.

A Lifan 110 is better built than a Honda Wave 110i. Really!!!

The Wave should be less than 30k to be attractive.

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[ktm jeff]

Seems even i have over-valued the Honda! Still prefer the Lifan - IMO.

[ktm jeff]

Edit. The price of a new Lifan 110cc is 29,000 baht.Even better value.

[casualbiker]

Edit. The price of a new Lifan 110cc is 29,000 baht.Even better value.

Good on you.. resale will not be as good though!

PS. Is it FI?

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Edited March 4, 2014 by casualbiker

[papa al]

IMO, the main advantage of the 125 is larger under-seat storage.

The Wave 110i is the best selling vehicle in Thailand and the world.

I think the styling is nicer, especially if you remove most of the stickers.

2014 model has alloy wheels option, in case you don't dig leaky tubes.

[Wong!]

Unless the 110 is priced right(under 40,000 baht)then buy a far more capable bike for less strain on longer runs or up-hills.Even better would be to buy a far better built bike such as a Lifan 110cc (less than 40,000 baht brand new)or better still , a Yamaha Nouvo.

Lifans are shit. They're built to a similar budget that a normal person would build a Meccano bike with.

[BirdsandBooze]

Honda claim that the Wave 125i does 63.3 kilometres per litre, and the Wave 110i does 64.4 kilometres per litre. I believe they conduct these tests at a steady 33mph. Real world fuel consumption will depend on how you ride.

[Lancelot]

I don't know the fuel economy for the 125; however, I had a 2008 Honda Wave CZi (sporty model of 110i) that I bought new and rode for 22,087 Km and I recorded every drop of fuel in a spread sheet. My long term average was 58.2 Km/Liter; Honda reported 57 Kl/L on the sales brochure, so I think you can reasonably compare the data from Honda Another bonus is that both bikes can use E20, normally 2.5 baht cheaper than Gasohol 91.

My little "Mini Beast" was a fun bike. I rode her from BKK to Chiang Mai twice and once from Pattaya to Chiang Mai. Also Chiang Mai to Mae Sai and the Mae Hong Song Loop.

My personal observation is that the 125 is built a little heavier and a bit more storage under the seat. Both bikes are economical and great transportation.

Chok Dee!

[BirdsandBooze]

The new 125i has a 5.4 litre fuel tank as opposed to the 3.7 litre of the new 110i. That will give it useful extra range between fillups.

[ktm jeff]

I think you will find the larger tank very useful. 125 seems the way to go!.Fuel consumption great on both , but 125 engine less stressed .Lifan has carb engine giving 65 KM per liter , and has alloy wheels with good wide tyres as standard.

[Lancelot]

The new 125i has a 5.4 litre fuel tank as opposed to the 3.7 litre of the new 110i. That will give it useful extra range between fillups.

That is so true; on road trips I was always stopping for gas on my old CZi