webfact Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Pheu Thai to impeach six charter court judges and Vicha MahakhunBANGKOK: -- The Pheu Thai party has started a process to impeach six Constitution Court judges and spokesman of the National Anti-Corruption Commission.A group of former Pheu Thai MPs led by Sunai Jullapongsathorn and Tossaporn Serirak today (Friday) lodged a petition with Senate president Nikhom Wairachpanich demanding the impeachment of six Constitution Court judges namely Charun Pakdithanakul, Charoon Inthajarn, Nurak Mapraneet, Supote Khaimook, Chalermpol Aek-uru and Thaweekiat Manakanit.The group accused the six judges of commiting malfeasance in office in accordance with Article 157 of the Criminal Court for accepting for consideration a petition challenging the constitutionality of the amendments of article 190 and 191 of the charter.Sunai noted that the Constitution court had earlier ruled that amendments of the charter were possible if they were done on article by article.He said that the group would try to collect up to 20,000 signatures to support the impeachment process.Meanwhile another former Pheu Thai MP Pairoj Issaraseripong submitted a petition, accompanied with a list of over 20,000 signatures, to Mr Nikhom to demand the impeachment of Mr Vicha Mahakhun, spokesman of the NACC.Senate president Nikhom said the Senate could proceed with the impeachment bid even there is no House of Representatives.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pheu-thai-impeach-six-charter-court-judges-vicha-mahakhun/ -- Thai PBS 2014-03-08 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Local Drunk Posted March 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2014 Insane, beyond belief. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted March 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2014 Way to go to get the "Courts" on your side. Impeach them for doing their jobs. Classic. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Fixit Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Clutching at straws ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted March 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Take a lesson from the Turkish PM; fire all the investigators investigating your government's corruption, remove judges who rule against you, while claiming 'Democracy' because, almost three years ago, you got more votes than the opposition. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 How many times have I seen this, when the verdict is against you or you dream up some rule violation, attack the judiciary ,because it doesn't suit your narrow vision, the courts are there to interpret the law , how the end finding turns out is anybody's guess , however the PTP have a bad track record of this type of intimidation towards court judges and every-time they lose, because they have been wrong, slow learners this crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post virtualtraveller Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Basically what they are saying is that the CC cannot and should not accept cases. Renders it impotent. No one can petition the CC to give a ruling on something. There's nothing in this to suggest the CC were biased, the issue here is their authority to consider a case, and if they can't then who can and if no one can then what recourse does the public have for justice. Insane. The only question here is for the Puea Thai to show evidence that the CC were clearly biased or inconsistent in the eventual verdict or that the grounds for accepting the case were flimsy. Same old story, blank cheque democracy. Were the shoe on the other foot and a Dem govt were legislating away any PT advantages in the election process they would be using the courts themselves for 'fairness'. We have a major problem in our country if the most popular party get everyone to believe courts should have no authority over the legislative branch. Legislature dominated by one party can then legislate a virtual monopoly, unchallenged. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 if this was a computer game it would go some thing like this 05 If A = 1 go to 200 10 a=0 15 b=0 20 c=0 30 PTP is the government 50 PTP makes all the rules 60 if you are not happy take us to court 70 Input D = Y or D = N 80 If D = N Goto 250 85 If D = Y Goto 90 90 A=A+1 95 Goto 5 200 We are the governement 205 The court are wrong 210 goto 50 250 we are the government 255 you will all be rich in 12 months from now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! It is not because the judges are not on the red side ! It is because they are incompetent and not neutral. Let's say they are just like you, only supports yellow, at any price ! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Way to go to get the "Courts" on your side. Impeach them for doing their jobs. Classic. Please read the complaint. The court gave direction on the proposed amendments saying that an article by article approach was acceptable. The government followed that directive. Then the same judges who gave the directive, contradicted their decision by accepting a complaint that says the article by article approach was wrong. Was the guidance and direction wrong? If so, a serious error was made. Or, did the judges intentionally set the government up for a legal challenge by giving erroneous instructions? The Senate has the power to review the events and to decide if the "judges" acted inappropriately. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvolak Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! It is not because the judges are not on the red side ! It is because they are incompetent and not neutral. Let's say they are just like you, only supports yellow, at any price ! So Ikke, In your humble view, the thai courts had no factual stuff to base the case on except that they are yellow supporters? Wow, I think you are missing a bit of the facts. But you go on wearing those red shades, they make you look so cool I mean fool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMountain Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 There is clearly an all out judicial battle happening. Still more of the same tit for tat just an expanded field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokheat Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 tossaporn,, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! It is not because the judges are not on the red side ! It is because they are incompetent and not neutral. Let's say they are just like you, only supports yellow, at any price ! yingluck has had 2 years to load her own judges into power guess maybe they are doing the job they are meant to, and judging people for what they have done or not done does that frighten you, as it does not fit your ajenda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokheat Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 i hear a lot of dogs barking at each other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Way to go to get the "Courts" on your side. Impeach them for doing their jobs. Classic. Please read the complaint. The court gave direction on the proposed amendments saying that an article by article approach was acceptable. The government followed that directive. Then the same judges who gave the directive, contradicted their decision by accepting a complaint that says the article by article approach was wrong. Was the guidance and direction wrong? If so, a serious error was made. Or, did the judges intentionally set the government up for a legal challenge by giving erroneous instructions? The Senate has the power to review the events and to decide if the "judges" acted inappropriately. as judges are in power to do the right thing for thailand and even judges can make a mistake the reason we have higher courts are you complaining that judges should stick to their first opinion even they know they made a mistake You come from Russia or China I guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kikoman Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Great, it is time for the Judges to be held accountable for their decision, the law not properly or selectively enforced, is bad for the whole country, those that fail to observe the law no matter what colored shirts they wear must be dealt with in a fair manner by any court! Cheers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! It is not because the judges are not on the red side ! It is because they are incompetent and not neutral. Let's say they are just like you, only supports yellow, at any price ! Oh I see they are judges but you have a higher calling so you judge the judges No wonder Thailand is in a circus if we have Western educated making comments like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezzainoz Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Great, it is time for the Judges to be held accountable for their decision, the law not properly or selectively enforced, is bad for the whole country, those that fail to observe the law no matter what colored shirts they wear must be dealt with in a fair manner by any court! Cheers and of coarse that includes corrupt MP's So you agree we get rid of Yingluck and her corrupt government and then turn our attention on getting rid of corrupt judges 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 ..talk about being 'above the law'...... ...with such audacity.....one should question any 'statement'....any alleged 'wrong' or 'attack' this bunch of psychos has allegedly suffered.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! It is not because the judges are not on the red side ! It is because they are incompetent and not neutral. Let's say they are just like you, only supports yellow, at any price ! Teaaainoz Your remarks are contempt of court. You can be jailed in any country for that. If I were to send a copy of what you wrote to the judges in question. They would trace you somehow. But I guess you do not live in Thailand otherwise unless you are very stupid you would not have dared to make such a a post. Oh I see they are judges but you have a higher calling so you judge the judges No wonder Thailand is in a circus if we have Western educated making comments like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Way to go to get the "Courts" on your side. Impeach them for doing their jobs. Classic. Please read the complaint. The court gave direction on the proposed amendments saying that an article by article approach was acceptable. The government followed that directive. Then the same judges who gave the directive, contradicted their decision by accepting a complaint that says the article by article approach was wrong. Was the guidance and direction wrong? If so, a serious error was made. Or, did the judges intentionally set the government up for a legal challenge by giving erroneous instructions? The Senate has the power to review the events and to decide if the "judges" acted inappropriately. It has nothing to do with what you purport. The amendment of article 190 was to allow the government to sign international deals without having to seek legislative approval. In other words the government could bypass the legislature to negotiate any deals except those related to territorial integrity, sovereignty, laws enacted by parliament and the initiations of free trade. In laymen terms it allows the government to bypass the democratic framework to pass shady deals with countries like, say Dubai. And when you have governments passing shady deals by bypassing the democratic framework you can guess who would not be far away. Yes, that's right. Our one and only accused, mass murderer, accuses terrorist convicted criminal fugitive. thaksin shinawatra. He ordered the senators and MP's in a Skype address on March12, 1013 (yes yes yingluck is PM) to rush through the article 190 amendment lest they have their allowances cut. That sounds like a guy that could make a few baht of this amendment heay? Also sounds like a guy that is running things to? Go figure. An unelectable is running the country. But thats another undemocratic story. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhotsox Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I guess the red shirts didn't do their jobs well enough to intimidate them eh? Typical Shinawatra democracy. If the judges are not on your side and cannot be bought or initimidated, replace them with your own! It is not because the judges are not on the red side ! It is because they are incompetent and not neutral. Let's say they are just like you, only supports yellow, at any price ! yingluck has had 2 years to load her own judges into power Are judges not appointed by the King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Pheu Thai's final push against the rule of law. They are stepping up their full-frontal attacks on the Constitutional Court and the NACC, adding to a list which already includes the EC - whom they've also threatened to take to court, as well as the Civil Court, whom they have now defied by pressing on with a deportation order, even though the Civil Court in one of its provisions strictly forbade them from doing that. No matter, Pheu Thai will simply clear the deck of any judicial opposition. Could it be any more crystal clear how much of an enormous threat Thaksin and Pheu Thai are ? Thaksin is clearly pulling out all the stops. All the anger, all the resentment he has stored up over these years against all these institutions and anyone he regards as his " enemies " ( i.e. anyone who does not support him or does not do as he wishes ) - all of this has just bubbled up inside him, and now it's all pouring out in all directions. It's more desperation that anything. He does not know what else to do. It is only the only tune he knows how to play. Everything, every ambition he has harboured over the years is coming crashing down. He can't stand it, and so we have this final push to clear the slate. In addition, there is this dangerous climate of a secession movement. Prayuth will not be able to stand back much longer. But if the courts themselves are threatened, it will likely be impossible for him not to act. The army has a sworn obligation to protect the constitution and the rule of law. The courts must be allowed to proceed without threat and without intimidation. Edited March 8, 2014 by Scamper 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketnut Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Great, it is time for the Judges to be held accountable for their decision, the law not properly or selectively enforced, is bad for the whole country, those that fail to observe the law no matter what colored shirts they wear must be dealt with in a fair manner by any court! Cheers and of coarse that includes corrupt MP's So you agree we get rid of Yingluck and her corrupt government and then turn our attention on getting rid of corrupt judges Only problem is Yingkuck is innocent until proven guilty... But hey good idea!Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE 8.2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Its difficult to keep track here,everyone seems to be impeaching everyone else,its like a game of musical chairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Fair play it is. Suthep is not shy about using every legal play in the book to obstruct, slowdown, or remove the PTP government - regardless of whether he is justified to do so. So why would the PTP not use the same strategy? Oh, because the PTP government is corrupt and not entitled to any rights? Seriously, the constitution does not preface its rights with party association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 And now for something completely different.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2014 Great, it is time for the Judges to be held accountable for their decision, the law not properly or selectively enforced, is bad for the whole country, those that fail to observe the law no matter what colored shirts they wear must be dealt with in a fair manner by any court! Cheers Here here and by the same token let's have dear YK and her band of thieves held accountable for the rice scam, dereliction of duty, and aiding and abetting a fugitive from the law 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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