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thaibeachlovers Star Member

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Nothing ridiculous about it. You're the one who introduced oppression and victimization into this argument.

I just gave examples to show the stupidity and ignorance of that.

Racial ethnic slurs happen against ALL races and all ethnicities, whether they've been oppressed or not, though many races/ethnicities have been oppressed at one time or another.

Your ridiculous assumption that racial slurs only occur against certain groups like blacks or Asians was proven wrong yet you're so blinded by liberalism that you seem to think only whites are racist. Again, another fallacy.

There're slurs or epithets for everyone. Whites use them against blacks and vice-versa. Asians use them against whites and vice-versa. It's not the domain of one group to use or be responsible for this type of language. Nothing '18th century' about that. But I probably think you have your centuries confused if you're trying to point out what I think you are.

You'd be better off finding real racism with the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Eric Holder than someone like Jeremy Clarkson.

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Now you are showing your abysmal ignorance. The issue is not what constitutes an ethnic slur. The issue is the nature

of racism, and the fact that it can only be used as a weapon by a dominant ethnic group against an oppressed group.

Since you are incapable of understanding this simple reality, it is futile to discuss the issue with you.

You may now continue your clueless sojourn in the fog of ignorance. Over and out.

So as a white person, I can go anywhere in the world have no fear that I will be abused in any way because I am white? White people are never targets for discrimination?

White people can be the target for all sorts of things, but they can never experience what it means to be an

oppressed underclass lorded over by an inhumane dominant class with a false sense of superiority.

That's white people in my country, where the people that think they are overlords are brown.

H1w4yR1da Gold Member

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The issue is the nature of racism, and the fact that it can only be used as a weapon by a dominant ethnic group against an oppressed group.

WRONG!Totally and utterly wrong!

Nowhere in the following pages does it say it can ONLY be used as you stated.'Only' being the operative word here. It can be, and is often used in that context, but never 'only', as you wrote.

This should clue you in as you're badly misinformed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

http://i.word.com/idictionary/racism

Merely believing one's race is superior isn't the same as meaning it can only be used by the 'dominant' group.

Read the links and maybe you'll get it, but maybe not!

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wilcopops Platinum Member

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The issue is the nature of racism, and the fact that it can only be used as a weapon by a dominant ethnic group against an oppressed group.

WRONG!Totally and utterly wrong!

Nowhere in the following pages does it say it can ONLY be used as you stated.'Only' being the operative word here. It can be, and is often used in that context, but never 'only', as you wrote.

This should clue you in as you're badly misinformed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

http://i.word.com/idictionary/racism

Merely believing one's race is superior isn't the same as meaning it can only be used by the 'dominant' group.

Read the links and maybe you'll get it, but maybe not!

So long as you limit your enquiries about racism to dictionaries you will never see the full picture and get a proper understanding of the whole issue.

PS - have you noticed that it is always those who deny the most that are in reality the ones afflicted?

the fact that this never seems to have occurred to you before and you have had to google some sort of answer to fit your own prejudice is telling enough.

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H1w4yR1da Gold Member

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The issue is the nature of racism, and the fact that it can only be used as a weapon by a dominant ethnic group against an oppressed group.

WRONG!Totally and utterly wrong!

Nowhere in the following pages does it say it can ONLY be used as you stated.'Only' being the operative word here. It can be, and is often used in that context, but never 'only', as you wrote.

This should clue you in as you're badly misinformed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

http://i.word.com/idictionary/racism

Merely believing one's race is superior isn't the same as meaning it can only be used by the 'dominant' group.

Read the links and maybe you'll get it, but maybe not!

So long as you limit your enquiries about racism to dictionaries you will never see the full picture and get a proper understanding of the whole issue.

PS - have you noticed that it is always those who deny the most that are in reality the ones afflicted?

the fact that this never seems to have occurred to you before and you have had to google some sort of answer to fit your own prejudice is telling enough.

The googling was for your benefit, not mine.

They were just a tool to prove you wrong.

BradinAsia Silver Member

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The issue is the nature of racism, and the fact that it can only be used as a weapon by a dominant ethnic group against an oppressed group.

WRONG!Totally and utterly wrong!

Nowhere in the following pages does it say it can ONLY be used as you stated.'Only' being the operative word here. It can be, and is often used in that context, but never 'only', as you wrote.

This should clue you in as you're badly misinformed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

http://i.word.com/idictionary/racism

Merely believing one's race is superior isn't the same as meaning it can only be used by the 'dominant' group.

Read the links and maybe you'll get it, but maybe not!

So long as you limit your enquiries about racism to dictionaries you will never see the full picture and get a proper understanding of the whole issue.

PS - have you noticed that it is always those who deny the most that are in reality the ones afflicted?

the fact that this never seems to have occurred to you before and you have had to google some sort of answer to fit your own prejudice is telling enough.

Thanks, Wilco. You are exactly correct.

If my understanding of life and the human condition were limited to the dictionary I'd be as hopelessly lost as this guy.

3NUMBAS Platinum Member

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Frankie Boyle: BBC should sack 'cultural tumour' Jeremy Clarkson Frankie Boyle, the comedian, has called on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson

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Published 24/08/2014 | 09:36

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Jeremy Clarkson presents Top Gear for the BBC

He is one of the most controversial comedians in Britain today, but even Frankie Boyle has called on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson.

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Boyle, who has been censured for a range of provocative jokes, said Clarkson was only tolerated by television executives because he was part of the establishment, despite his outspoken moments.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/frankie-boyle-bbc-should-sack-cultural-tumour-jeremy-clarkson-30531938.html

thaibeachlovers Star Member

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Frankie Boyle: BBC should sack 'cultural tumour' Jeremy Clarkson Frankie Boyle, the comedian, has called on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson

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Jeremy Clarkson presents Top Gear for the BBC

He is one of the most controversial comedians in Britain today, but even Frankie Boyle has called on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson.

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Boyle, who has been censured for a range of provocative jokes, said Clarkson was only tolerated by television executives because he was part of the establishment, despite his outspoken moments.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/frankie-boyle-bbc-should-sack-cultural-tumour-jeremy-clarkson-30531938.html

And Boyle is important because???????? Some guy I've never heard of thinks he can tell other people what to do w00t.gif .

On the other hand I have heard of Clarkson, and in my book he's a top guy. He hates PC, I hate PC, great.

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tonbridgebrit Gold Member

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Frankie Boyle and Jeremy Clarkson.

Right, so they both use 'similar material' as part of their 'act'. One has been censured, but the other tolerated by television executives.
Surely, we need to see consistency. It's a bit silly isn't it, if people back one person for his stuff, and then refuse to back another person for doing similar stuff ?

And surely, if it is true, (as in he got away with it because he had friends who were high up in the BBC, other people didn't or won't get away with it because they don't have similar friends that are part of the establishment), well, if it is true, surely, all of us must criticise the BBC for this ? They should treat everybody with the same rules or principles. And this applies to both those supporting and NOT supporting Jeremy Clarkson.

thaibeachlovers Star Member

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Frankie Boyle and Jeremy Clarkson.

Right, so they both use 'similar material' as part of their 'act'. One has been censured, but the other tolerated by television executives.

Surely, we need to see consistency. It's a bit silly isn't it, if people back one person for his stuff, and then refuse to back another person for doing similar stuff ?

And surely, if it is true, (as in he got away with it because he had friends who were high up in the BBC, other people didn't or won't get away with it because they don't have similar friends that are part of the establishment), well, if it is true, surely, all of us must criticise the BBC for this ? They should treat everybody with the same rules or principles. And this applies to both those supporting and NOT supporting Jeremy Clarkson.

The "slope" comment is nonsensical for reasons I'v already pointed out. Nothing to cencure.

Just because some PC idiots that find fault with everything read something into it doesn't make it true.

tonbridgebrit Gold Member

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Frankie Boyle and Jeremy Clarkson.

Right, so they both use 'similar material' as part of their 'act'. One has been censured, but the other tolerated by television executives.

Surely, we need to see consistency. It's a bit silly isn't it, if people back one person for his stuff, and then refuse to back another person for doing similar stuff ?

And surely, if it is true, (as in he got away with it because he had friends who were high up in the BBC, other people didn't or won't get away with it because they don't have similar friends that are part of the establishment), well, if it is true, surely, all of us must criticise the BBC for this ? They should treat everybody with the same rules or principles. And this applies to both those supporting and NOT supporting Jeremy Clarkson.

The "slope" comment is nonsensical for reasons I'v already pointed out. Nothing to cencure.

Just because some PC idiots that find fault with everything read something into it doesn't make it true.

"thaibeachlovers", so the 'PC idiots' who found fault with Frankie Boyle got things their way. But the 'PC idiots' who found fault with Jeremy Clarkson did NOT get things their way.

Surely, most of those who find Jeremy Clarkson funny are likely to find Frankie Boyle funny ?

I think the Jeremy Clarkson supporters are trying to say "Jeremy Clarkson did some harmless fun, he was rightfully not punished, Frankie Boyle also did some harmless fun, but he WAS (unfortunately) punished". And "just because you was unfairly punished, that doesn't mean to say that you should call for the same unfair punishment for others that did the same as you". I think that's what some of the anti-PC people are trying to say. And Jeremy Clarkson hasn't just made the 'slope' comment, his supporters delight in the fact that he's been involved in a whole load of 'funny comments' down the years.

By the way, yes, I do know a load of 'working-class' people (most people I know are working-class) who haven't got a problem with Clarkson's humour, they find it funny. But they dislike the point that he is always untouchable because he is symbolic of the 'establishment. Other people are not of the same background as Clarkson, and the BBC punishes those people. That's what annoys them.

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Chivas Platinum Member

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That Special is being repeated for the first time today (AFAIK) on Channel Dave in UK today at 3.20pm

rhythmworx Gold Member

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If you ever want to officially open up a new bar/club/restaurant in the LOS, get Clarkson there to cut the ribbon and smash a bottle of champagne on the wall.

Excellent advertising strategy.

People will be talking about your place for years.

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/clarkson-remark-could-damage-gb-114516811.html#ASt0FI

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Jeremy Clarkson's use of a racist word on his BBC Top Gear TV programme risks damaging Britain's role in the world unless properly challenged, the chairman of Chinese for Labour has said.

Sonny Leong, speaking at the Labour Party conference, said Clarkson's use of the world "slope" to describe an Asian man breached the broadcasting code but did not fall foul of equality laws as creative decisions are given an exemption.

Mr Leong said the BBC's ability to broadcast racist material with "impunity" does not sit well with its duty to promote equality and so it must be challenged following Top Gear incident.

He told the party conference: "Top Gear is one of the BBC's popular programmes and attracts millions of viewers nationally and internationally.

"They have a responsibility to ensure that they do not offend any ethnic minorities and communities and that they do not promote racist stereotypes and xenophobia.

"Britain's global role will be diminished, if not damaged, if we do not challenge this."

Mr Leong was referring to a Top Gear episode filmed in Burma and Thailand and shown in March which featured a scene in which the presenters built a bridge over the River Kwai, and as an Asian man walked over it Clarkson said: "That is a proud moment, but there's a slope on it."

Clarkson also sparked controversy earlier this year when he admitted using the n-word which

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rhythmworx Gold Member

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Good old Jezza, if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have the thread that keeps on giving.

TV should pay him royalties for this thread.

I'm tempted to twitter him to come here and read it.

55Jay Gold Member

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If he actually did that on purpose, at this point, he must have enough money in the bank and simply doesn't care if he gets sacked or not.

3NUMBAS Platinum Member

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now theyve been banned and chucked out of Argentina

https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/top-gear-crew-barred-argentina-041233255.html

The cast and crew of TV's Top Gear are flying out of Argentina after facing protests from politicians and army veterans for using a car whose number plate apparently referred to the Falklands War.

The team used a Porsche with the registration number H982 FKL, which some people suggested could be seen to refer to the Falklands conflict which took place in 1982.

A group of war veterans protested outside their hotel and one local politician said they were escorted to the airport.

Juan Manuel Romano, secretary of social development for Ushuaia in southern Tierra del Fuego province, said: "They have taken the decision to leave."

The BBC confirmed they were leaving the country, although show bosses have said the number plate was merely a coincidence and was not chosen deliberately.

The programme has already run into problems this year, with one edition found to be in breach of Ofcom's broadcasting code for the use of a racially offensive term during a two-part special filmed in Burma, following a complaint from a viewer.

And presenter Jeremy Clarkson apologised after unbroadcast footage emerged in which he appeared to use the n-word, although he denied actually saying it.

The team from the BBC Two show are in South America filming a special on a remote highway passing through Chile and Argentina.

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This comes after Argentinian ex-soldiers stopped the presenter's Porsche - whose numberplate seemed to reference the Falklands War - at a roadblock before marching to his luxury hotel to demand he and his Top Gear team abandon the area.

Clarkson is understood to have checked out of his hotel early and fled to Chile after he was blasted for driving a car bearing the "provocative" plate - H982 FKL - to travel part of the famous Patagonian Highway.

Top Gear bosses insisted the plate had not been chosen deliberately and was a pure coincidence.

But as paranoia gripped the southern Argentinian city of Ushuaia, officials upped the ante against Clarkson and his co-producers by accusing them of deliberate provocation.

Local councillor Juan Manuel Romano claimed the digits 269 on the number plate of the Ford Mustang Mustang Richard Hammond was driving were close to the 255 Britons killed during the 1982 war.

He also said the numbers 646 on James May’s Lotus could be taken as a reference to the 649 Argentinian casualties.

The Top Gear trio and their film crew are understood to have packed up and left three days ahead of schedule after a tense meeting at the Hotel Arakur in Ushuaia where they were staying.

As they attempted to leave the country the car they were travelling in came under attack from angry Argentinian protestors.

Demonstrators stoned their vehicles at a petrol station as they crossed the town of Tolhuin on their way to the Chilean city of Punta Arenas.

One local paper reported: “There were people injured and police cars damaged.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/517859/Jeremy-Clarkson-outrage-driving-Argentina-Falklands-War-numberplate

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I met a guy who used to work as part of the Top Gear crew. He said James May was a very nice bloke, Hammond a bit of a prat but alright and Clarkson a complete xxxx.

Which seems about right.

When will people realise that Clarkson only says most of the offensive things he does just to wind-up the pc brigade and they take the bait every time.

I don't lke casual racism for the sake of it but sometimes some off-colour comments/jokes are funny. Some people react as if other ethnic groups can't speak for themselves and never make jokes about white people. C'mon !

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