Thai Constitutional Court voids February election

[HonestQuietBob]

Was there any doubt? The election was a failure. The protestors did their job and stopped the election while the police did nothing at all. Government will blame the EC for this but the fact is the police failed miserably in their jobs to protect the polling stations.

Police did a fine job taking care of the mess the EC created.

As far as I'm aware no one actually died on polling day and that's the most important thing.

The Reds can win elections any day of the week into the distant future, so nothing's been lost, only delayed.

I have asked you many times, and you have never answered

If PTP and Thaskin are so sure they will win the next election again

why are they trying so hard to not have to face the people at an election

This is the most bizarre question I have been asked on this forum.

Not suffering from the after effects of the new Yaba/Heroin mix are we?

Thaksin backed parties have contested all 6 of the last elections and are willing to contest the next one.

Democrats have only contested 4 off the last 6 elections and are going to boycott the next election.

Thaksin 7 out of 7 = 100%,

Democrats 4 out of 7 = 57%

You tell me who is hiding from the people?

Given todays verdict, PTP want another election in May, Democrats do not - they want an appointed government i.e they want to avoid having to face the people at an election.

Inane, inane beyond belief to ask such a silly, silly question.

[Figglymiggly]

Was there any doubt? The election was a failure. The protestors did their job and stopped the election while the police did nothing at all. Government will blame the EC for this but the fact is the police failed miserably in their jobs to protect the polling stations.

My understanding of the legalities is that the police could not/ can not intervene in the election process, albeit for security reasons. The strange situation that obtains is that they must be "invited" to ensure security on the day, which of course everyone knows wasn't going to happen, as the EC themselves were determined to disrupt the election, The EC did not call on the services of security forces.

[bkkjames]

A mob of assassins, paid 300 baht a day to lynch and massacre bystandars and people who want to cast their votes, is untouchable.

Not even the Courts of Russia, Myanmar or North Korea can be so disgusting corrupt.

Suthep who was called "the most corrupt people in Thailand" by the Democrat Chuan Leekpai , is free to kill and kidnap people freely, while governing for the people is forbidden in this middle age society.

Max: I will ask you what are your thoughts on Mr CMPO assembling a 110,000 man force to ensure safe elections but did not deploy them on election day?

[alant]

When the institutions of the state set themselves against the will of the people, there's only ever going to be one outcome. History shows that pitchforks beat bayonets every time.

Not sure I would agree there.

[max72]

Was there any doubt? The election was a failure. The protestors did their job and stopped the election while the police did nothing at all. Government will blame the EC for this but the fact is the police failed miserably in their jobs to protect the polling stations.

Police did a fine job taking care of the mess the EC created.

As far as I'm aware no one actually died on polling day and that's the most important thing.

The Reds can win elections any day of the week into the distant future, so nothing's been lost, only delayed.

I have asked you many times, and you have never answered

If PTP and Thaskin are so sure they will win the next election again

why are they trying so hard to not have to face the people at an election

Pheu Thai won the last election, and the 2014 one. And if allowed to run in the next election, they'll win that one too. The only party that won't face elections are the Democrat party.

You did the trick of fasely accusing your opponents of your sides crimes.

That's true. PTP would always win because it is by far the least worse, not because it's a fair and real democratic party, but it looks a beacon of honesty and demcoracy compared to the assassins thieves of the No-Democrats and its peers, who have just massacred people and stolen every single baht since 1932.

Moreover, this is not simply Elite vs. Reds, this is No-democrats vs. all Thais, since the Suthep mobs of assassins are taking out the rights of vote of every Thai, including the ones who voted for other parties , Thailand has many parties (ok, some are just proxies, but not all of them), so the Suthep mobs have no excuses. They want to have all the power to keep stealing and massacring Thai people like they have done for 80 years.

[Morch]

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Contempt for the democratic wishes of the Thai people.

20mln citisens voted in this election. The court invalidated their political choice. The court is in the pockets of the ruling class

Wrong again

40 mill were eligible in uninterrupted constituencies with 50% abstaining from the ballot.

of that 20 mill who did vote, more than 10 million cast a 'no vote'.

That is how much faith the electorate has in the Thaksin regime.

You are full of misinformation... give up before you embarrass yourself even more with your lack of knowledge.

I believe the number of "no-votes" was much lower.

The EC announced that as many as 20.1 million out of 43.024 million eligible voters submitted votes in 68 provinces where voting was not disrupted by protestors, with 71.38 percent of those ballots valid, 12.05 percent invalid and 16.57 percent "no-vote".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2014#Election_day

Of course, not all of the 71.38% valid votes were for the Pheu Thai party.

[bristolgeoff]

the merry go round continues

[thepool]

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A mob of assassins, paid 300 baht a day to lynch and massacre bystandars and people who want to cast their votes, is untouchable.

Not even the Courts of Russia, Myanmar or North Korea can be so disgusting corrupt.

Suthep who was called "the most corrupt people in Thailand" by the Democrat Chuan Leekpai , is free to kill and kidnap people freely, while governing for the people is forbidden in this middle age society.

Well don't just stop there!

Give us the facts !

How many "bystanders and voters" were "massacred" ?

How many "kidnapped" and "killed" ?

I would seem some live in a very strange world which is comprised of fairy tales and gross exaggeration .

[kratiam]

A mob of assassins, paid 300 baht a day to lynch and massacre bystandars and people who want to cast their votes, is untouchable.

Not even the Courts of Russia, Myanmar or North Korea can be so disgusting corrupt.

Suthep who was called "the most corrupt people in Thailand" by the Democrat Chuan Leekpai , is free to kill and kidnap people freely, while governing for the people is forbidden in this middle age society.

Utter garbage....

[h90]

Was there any doubt? The election was a failure. The protestors did their job and stopped the election while the police did nothing at all. Government will blame the EC for this but the fact is the police failed miserably in their jobs to protect the polling stations.

Police did a fine job taking care of the mess the EC created.

As far as I'm aware no one actually died on polling day and that's the most important thing.

The Reds can win elections any day of the week into the distant future, so nothing's been lost, only delayed.

I have asked you many times, and you have never answered

If PTP and Thaskin are so sure they will win the next election again

why are they trying so hard to not have to face the people at an election

Pheu Thai won the last election, and the 2014 one. And if allowed to run in the next election, they'll win that one too. The only party that won't face elections are the Democrat party.

You did the trick of fasely accusing your opponents of your sides crimes.

Well the claims of crimes seems to be right.....

[wolfmanjack]

ok, there would be the next one, with the same effect - reds will win the majority, democrats will be losing support (that even if they contest an election).

dems wanted a new parliament, PM dissolved the house, dems boycotted the election. The reds won, election invalidated by yellow's palls from the court, dems call for boycott of the next poll.

the country is going down the drain, not the government, but courts, agencies and fascist mob on the streets running amok, destroying what is left from the reasonable economic, political and social stability.

Do I really have to say this again in all the threads before you realize the actual true situation?

The Dems could have easily won the elections.

PTP only got 8 million out of 40 million votes. Where do you think the other votes would have went if the Dems were running?

That was as of Feb 2nd. A lot has changed since then and the PTP have lost even more popularity. None of their schemes have paid off for their 2011 voters. They have had ministers on stage supporting secession and celebrating the death of children... That has sickened even their hardcore voters.

The PTP if new elections were running tomorrow would be lucky to get 6 million votes.

Why do idiots keep coming out with the same old BS that PTP will win every time and the Dems can't win an election. That is rubbish. It is not the same as it was in 2011.

PTP have let down their voters big time on all fronts. Farmers killing themselves over debts and non payment for their rice. No end in sight.

The kids didn't get their tablets.

The first time car buyer scheme runs out of money halfway through payments (where did that money go?)

The minimum pay for holders of bachelor's degrees, that was suddenly changed after the election victory to only cover government workers and 3 years on and even those government workers are still waiting.

PTP and Thaksin who used to be loved where I live in the northeast are now hated by the majority and people round here really wanted the Dems to run.

The Dems have even come out and said they won't contest the new election unless the election system is overhauled to make it fair, and Yingluck stands down... They Know they would win it hands down this time. But are making an ultimate sacrifice of assured victory once again for the good of the nation and democracy.

So you lot who keep calling the Dems 'unelectable' need to get your head out of the past and catch up to the rest of us, because we are living in 2014 and things are massively different to 2011.

Please try to move into the present, you can start by opening your eyes and removing your red sunglasses.

I do believe that the Dems might win an election as things are now but if they were allowed to campaign in all provinces and they took advantage of all the footage available to run a campaign that educated the voters on all of the points you mentioned then they would definitely be able to win.

Some would call it a smear campaign but is it really a smear campaign when you use real live footage and facts to get the points to the voters?

[HonestQuietBob]

ok, there would be the next one, with the same effect - reds will win the majority, democrats will be losing support (that even if they contest an election).

the country is going down the drain, not the government, but courts, agencies running amok, destroying what is left from the reasonable economic, political and social stability

I would be interested in seeing if the reds would win a future election! IMO they have cooked their goose, I really don't see them having as much support as they had in 2010, they have p*ssed off most of the electorate including the rice farmers, first time car buyers and many more.

The idea that they have been democratically good for Thailand is Laughable to say the least.

The only reason Thailand is going through all this turmoil is because the Thaksin backed parties are unbeatable in elections.

They are simply too popular.

The Democrats aren't even close, never will be and are only going to fall further behind as events unfold in the coming years.

Any election that truly reflects the will of the Thai people is an election that Team Thaksin wins.

Even though you may not think Thaksin has been good for Thailand, the majority of Thais do - and their the ones that count.

[Issangeorge]

No surprise, anyone who can read can see that it is clearly stated in the constitution that the election has to be held in all constituencies on the same day. The government was well aware of this and the Election Committee warned them that if they insisted on having the election it could be found invalid and yet the government insisted on having it anyway. How much money did that cause the tax payer?

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[Morch]

reds have won every single election, every time stronger

Just goes to show that you know nothing.

The reds only existed since 2010, before that there were no red shirts.

Catch up with the rest of us.

Their 8 million votes would never have won them power and since they got those 8 million votes, they have pissed off a load of that 8 million.

Its over, they are unelectable. Unless of course you want to try to explain to me what happened to the other 8 million voters from 2011? They seem to have gone astray.

Dream on mate.

The red shirts were around since 2006, not 2010.

Unless you think those that clashed with the PAD in 2008 and broke the ASEAN summit in Pattaya were not red shirts.

I wouldn't hold any stock with the results of the cancelled elections. The PTP may have lost some support, but that does not necessarily mean that these votes go to the Democrat Party.

[h90]

Was there any doubt? The election was a failure. The protestors did their job and stopped the election while the police did nothing at all. Government will blame the EC for this but the fact is the police failed miserably in their jobs to protect the polling stations.

Police did a fine job taking care of the mess the EC created.

As far as I'm aware no one actually died on polling day and that's the most important thing.

The Reds can win elections any day of the week into the distant future, so nothing's been lost, only delayed.

I have asked you many times, and you have never answered

If PTP and Thaskin are so sure they will win the next election again

why are they trying so hard to not have to face the people at an election

This is the most bizarre question I have been asked on this forum.

Not suffering from the after effects of the new Yaba/Heroin mix are we?

Thaksin backed parties have contested all 6 of the last elections and are willing to contest the next one.

Democrats have only contested 4 off the last 6 elections and are going to boycott the next election.

Thaksin 7 out of 7 = 100%,

Democrats 4 out of 7 = 57%

You tell me who is hiding from the people?

Given todays verdict, PTP want another election in May, Democrats do not - they want an appointed government i.e they want to avoid having to face the people at an election.

Inane, inane beyond belief to ask such a silly, silly question.

And Thaksins party was twice dissolved for fraud at the elections. The Democrats were dissolved zero times.

Lets have a boxing match together.

But I take a gun to boxing match....if you don't want to fight me I tell you are too weak to win....that is approx. the situation....

[julemanden]

reds have won every single election, every time stronger

One wonder why and how?

[Morch]

After the 2009 and 2010 Red Songkran mayhem, we might expect a 2014 version coming April! Is Jatuporn leading his lemmings to Bangkok, all with 1 liter of gasoline?

Well, that will show Singapore what Songkran is all about!

[webfact]

Thailand court voids protest-hit polls, new vote looms
by Apilaporn VECHAKIJ

BANGKOK, March 21, 2014 (AFP) - Thailand's general election held last month was declared invalid Friday after disruption by opposition protesters, setting the scene for talks between warring political parties about new polls to end months of deadlock.

While the ruling from the Constitutional Court further delays the formation of a new government, it also offers a possible exit from the political stalemate -- if the opposition agrees to end its boycott of the ballot box.

The country's Election Commission said it planned to propose talks between political party leaders about a new election date.

But Yingluck's supporters fear she will be removed from office before another vote is held.

She has been charged with negligence by the National Anti-Corruption Commission in connection with a rice subsidy scheme, and could face an impeachment vote in the upper house of parliament within weeks.

Yingluck has faced more than four months of street demonstrations seeking to force her from office and install an unelected "people's council" to oversee political reforms.

"Their aim is to put pressure in every possible way to appoint a neutral prime minister," said the chairman of the pro-government "Red Shirts" movement, Jatuporn Prompan.

The backdrop is a years-old struggle between a royalist establishment -- supported by the judiciary and the military -- and Yingluck's family, which has traditionally enjoyed strong support in the northern half of Thailand.

Political violence has claimed the lives of 23 people in recent weeks in gun and grenade attacks, mostly targeting protesters.

The kingdom has been deeply polarised since a military coup in 2006 that ousted Yingluck's brother Thaksin Shinawatra, a tycoon-turned-politician who lives in Dubai to avoid prison for a corruption conviction.

- 'Court's reputation at risk' -

The Constitutional Court, set up after a 2006 coup, has a record of ruling against Yingluck's family and its political allies, and Friday's verdict raised eyebrows among some observers.

"The court has too obviously and too openly appeared to side with the agenda of the anti-government groups," said Thailand-based author and scholar David Streckfuss.

"In doing so, the court has put its reputation and its integrity at risk," he told AFP.

The court ruled 6:3 to nullify the election on the grounds that voting was not held for the entire country on the same day.

Protesters blocked candidate registrations in 28 constituencies, and also caused the closure of about 10 percent of polling stations.

The opposition Democrats said Friday that it was too soon to say whether they would participate in a new election, but hinted they might be willing to return to mainstream politics if all sides can reach an agreement.

"If we can talk with the government to ensure that the election is peaceful, without protests and acceptable to all parties, then the Democrats as a political party are ready to contest the polls," spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said.

Opposition protesters, however, have threatened to block any new ballot, calling for vaguely defined reforms first to tackle alleged corruption.

"People will not agree with an election. They want reform and this time our people will come out in every province to make the election more invalid," protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, a former Democrat Party heavyweight, said in a speech Thursday.

A spokesman for Yingluck's Puea Thai Party described the court ruling as "regrettable", and said the annulment of the vote would "set a bad precedent".

Thailand has not had a properly functioning parliament since early December when Yingluck called early elections after opposition lawmakers resigned en masse from the lower house.

If Yingluck is ousted, it could fall to the upper house Senate to choose a new interim premier, according to experts.

The speaker of the senate -- about half of whose members are unelected -- was indicted by the National Anti-Corruption Commission on Thursday in connection with a failed bid to make the upper house fully elected.

Tensions on the streets have eased since protesters scaled down their rallies at the start of March, prompting the government to end a state of emergency earlier this week.

Puncturing the relative calm, two grenades were fired Friday in a residential district home to a Constitutional Court judge, wounding one local resident, according to police.


-- (c) Copyright AFP 2014-03-21

[MunterHunter]

ok, there would be the next one, with the same effect - reds will win the majority, democrats will be losing support (that even if they contest an election).

the country is going down the drain, not the government, but courts, agencies running amok, destroying what is left from the reasonable economic, political and social stability

I would be interested in seeing if the reds would win a future election! IMO they have cooked their goose, I really don't see them having as much support as they had in 2010, they have p*ssed off most of the electorate including the rice farmers, first time car buyers and many more.

The idea that they have been democratically good for Thailand is Laughable to say the least.

The only reason Thailand is going through all this turmoil is because the Thaksin backed parties are unbeatable in elections.

They are simply too popular.

The Democrats aren't even close, never will be and are only going to fall further behind as events unfold in the coming years.

Any election that truly reflects the will of the Thai people is an election that Team Thaksin wins.

Even though you may not think Thaksin has been good for Thailand, the majority of Thais do - and their the ones that count.

PTP won the last election gaining approximately 3 million more votes than the Democrats.

Do you honestly beleive they will get the same/more votes in the next election? No way sunshine! Support from the farmers is dwindling faster than the contents of my wallet on a friday night, rural support is fractured and in peices, any support they had from the First car scheme has long gone, as the support from the 'tablets for children' policy... gone. The Rice scheme is a flop and has caused soo much difficulty that any support they had fro mthis policy is gone. Previous Red shirt strong holds now waiver and with most of the PTP MP's including Yingluck herself having court cases against them any votes for them will be invalidated.

The Red Rule days are over, now its time to reform the country and laws so this type of parasitic iron fisted rule cannot happen again.

[rubl]

As much as want to see the backs of the corrupt and cheating Shinawatwa's, I think this is a bad day for Thailand as it has set a president whereby next time the PTP (or what ever name they are going by at the time) could use the same tactics to nullify an election.

That would assume a government would try to push through an election just like the Yingluck government tried to. Lots of 'nice' platitudes from Ms. Yingluck on what she could or could not, lots of threats from Pheu Thai MPs and members if the election would not continue. Etc., etc.

No, rubl, this judgement allows anyone with an agenda to disrupt the elections and get them nullified.

What do you mean "push through an election"? Ridiculous statement. The dissolution was announced, the election was held in the timescale dictated by the constitution. Is that too "rushed" for you? suthep and his anti democrats vowed to disrupt the election and they succeeded in his stronghold states. How do you legislate for your chosen one?

"This election will never happen because we the people don't want it," Mr. Suthep

What would have happened if the Thammasat Uni lecturer hadn't been encouraged to raise this issue through the CC - the elections would have stood as constitutional? The CC would have ruled the elections as unconstitutional themselves if they thought they were, surely, isn't that their job? They shouldn't have to rely on members of the public with a specific political agenda to bring their attention to it.

Welcome to the land where everything needs to be reformed apart from the judiciary - why is that do you think?

there is a difference between "push through" and "rush through", my dear fabs.

As for the rest, well, all obfuscation was to be expected. The Yingluck government tried to ignore all concerns about having an election without reforms first. Ms. Yingluck voiced "I cannot do otherwise", "the law ...", "I would do whatever to help the country", "I would die for ..." and her cabinet, Pheu Thai spokesmen, Pheu Thai MP's, UDD leaders more pushy for "we must have an election", "we do not accept court rulings". And of course the massive influx of posters here to defend the undemocratic, blanket amnesty pushing Yingluck government. The first two years of Yingluck government covered in the amnesty, any good reasond for that? Answer, yes, 700++ billion of them.

Welcome to the lala-land of posters who push an agenda, which would open them to ridicule in their own democratic countries.

[Fookhaht]

I watched tens of thousands of university students inconvenience themselves, many traveling hundreds of kilometers and taking up to a full day's travel each way, so that they could have their vote heard. The courts make a mockery of their efforts. No wonder that many of them end up so cynical about politics the ability of government to do its job. The court has just shot themselves (as part of the government) in their other foot.

[worgeordie]

2 billion bht wasted on an election that should never have happened, the timing was not right,more

money down the toilet,money that could have been to put to much better

use,the amount of money this government is wasting is just staggering.

regards worgeordie

[rubl]

ok, there would be the next one, with the same effect - reds will win the majority, democrats will be losing support (that even if they contest an election).

dems wanted a new parliament, PM dissolved the house, dems boycotted the election. The reds won, election invalidated by yellow's palls from the court, dems call for boycott of the next poll.

the country is going down the drain, not the government, but courts, agencies and fascist mob on the streets running amok, destroying what is left from the reasonable economic, political and social stability.

The country has gone down the drain courtessy of Suthep and a spineless Democrat Party that runs away from elections because it has nothing to offer the country. They are aided and abeted by institutions that were set up after 2006 to ensure the Dems would and their backers would retain power.

Yet again an election has been stolen from the people because certain elitist interests do not want the people of this country to elect a government of their choosing. Mark my words.The people will not forget and they will not forgive. There are already reports in the international news media saying that the Dems will boycott the next election and Suthep's mob will disrupt it. Those Suthep cheerleaders on this forum should hang their heads in shame. Your man has blown it for the country big time. And it is the ordinary Thai citizen who will suffer because of it.

your opinion, maybe, but far from facts.

It would seem that a government controlled wby a criminal fugitive abroad and which manages to "lose" 700++ billion on a rice price pledging program only seems more interested in helping the country going down the drain.

As for stolen elections, the "democracy = elections" is getting more and more absurd. Try something new.

Anyway Thaksin a new passport, 700++ billion down the drain and the Thai taxpayer will suffer.

BTW did the caretaker MoF already have the 20 billion borrowed forwarded to the BAAC so that that state bank can finally try to pay a few more farmers?

[Mr Yim]

ok, there would be the next one, with the same effect - reds will win the majority, democrats will be losing support (that even if they contest an election).

dems wanted a new parliament, PM dissolved the house, dems boycotted the election. The reds won, election invalidated by yellow's palls from the court, dems call for boycott of the next poll.

the country is going down the drain, not the government, but courts, agencies and fascist mob on the streets running amok, destroying what is left from the reasonable economic, political and social stability.

Do I really have to say this again in all the threads before you realize the actual true situation?

The Dems could have easily won the elections.

PTP only got 8 million out of 40 million votes. Where do you think the other votes would have went if the Dems were running?

That was as of Feb 2nd. A lot has changed since then and the PTP have lost even more popularity. None of their schemes have paid off for their 2011 voters. They have had ministers on stage supporting secession and celebrating the death of children... That has sickened even their hardcore voters.

The PTP if new elections were running tomorrow would be lucky to get 6 million votes.

Why do idiots keep coming out with the same old BS that PTP will win every time and the Dems can't win an election. That is rubbish. It is not the same as it was in 2011.

PTP have let down their voters big time on all fronts. Farmers killing themselves over debts and non payment for their rice. No end in sight.

The kids didn't get their tablets.

The first time car buyer scheme runs out of money halfway through payments (where did that money go?)

The minimum pay for holders of bachelor's degrees, that was suddenly changed after the election victory to only cover government workers and 3 years on and even those government workers are still waiting.

PTP and Thaksin who used to be loved where I live in the northeast are now hated by the majority and people round here really wanted the Dems to run.

The Dems have even come out and said they won't contest the new election unless the election system is overhauled to make it fair, and Yingluck stands down... They Know they would win it hands down this time. But are making an ultimate sacrifice of assured victory once again for the good of the nation and democracy.

So you lot who keep calling the Dems 'unelectable' need to get your head out of the past and catch up to the rest of us, because we are living in 2014 and things are massively different to 2011.

Please try to move into the present, you can start by opening your eyes and removing your red sunglasses.

If the Dems thought they could win an election they would contest it. End of.

[HonestQuietBob]

reds have won every single election, every time stronger

Just goes to show that you know nothing.

The reds only existed since 2010, before that there were no red shirts.

Catch up with the rest of us.

Their 8 million votes would never have won them power and since they got those 8 million votes, they have pissed off a load of that 8 million.

Its over, they are unelectable. Unless of course you want to try to explain to me what happened to the other 8 million voters from 2011? They seem to have gone astray.

Dream on mate.

Pedantic crap!

Red = Pro Thaksin

Yellow = Anti Thaksin

Why complicate the simple.

Who is going to show up to an election that one of the major parties has boycotted.

Turnout was low because of the boycott, not because of PTP support has halved.

You think PTP support sits at 8 million, you're in for one hell of a shock should the other cowards ever front up for an election.

I am truly bewildered by the fact the anyone who claims to be even slightly educated can allow their bias to lead them to ignore the reams and reams of data generated over the course of a decade and 6 general elections that shows the overwhelming support of the Reds and the faltering minority support of the Democrats.

Daydream believers one and all.

[fab4]

I do believe that the Dems might win an election as things are now but if they were allowed to campaign in all provinces and they took advantage of all the footage available to run a campaign that educated the voters on all of the points you mentioned then they would definitely be able to win.

Some would call it a smear campaign but is it really a smear campaign when you use real live footage and facts to get the points to the voters?

"Some would call it a smear campaign but is it really a smear campaign when you use real live footage and facts to get the points to the voters?"

It really depends on the validity of those "facts", how they are presented and their relevance to the campaign. The dems found that out the hard way recently, when their choice of governor for Bangkok was given a yellow card for having benefited from such goings on i.e a smear campaign by a dem MP.

The election is having to be re run. I wonder if suthep and his fellow election haters will disrupt that election too? Don't answer, the question was rhetorical.

[Tatsujin]

What a circus! The ultimate aim is for Thailand to have a democracy Thai style which is one that the amataya or Bangkok/Army Elite are comfortable with.....

< yawn >

Can we move on from "amart" and "elite" . . . your boss and his cronies are just as much "elite" as anyone else involved in this . . .

This post shows your complete ignorance as to what is going on here.

There isn't a single international media outlet of repute that does not refer to the elite or the am-mart.

It is the old establishment that are behind this mess.

A tiny bunch of decrepid old geriatrics and their families who are being washed away down the gutters and sewers of history where they belong.

Thaksin is new money and not part of the club.

How did I know it would be "you" that responded lol

Yes, it's old money and new money to a certain extent (although that is a touch simplistic explanation).

Both are "elite" however when compared to the majority of the rest of the population.

To claim Thaksin is not elite highlights your ignorance and gullibility with respect to the red propaganda that's spewed endlessly, claiming this is a fight between rich and poor. It's not, it's rich vs rich with everyone else as mere pawns in the game.

[HonestQuietBob]

ok, there would be the next one, with the same effect - reds will win the majority, democrats will be losing support (that even if they contest an election).

dems wanted a new parliament, PM dissolved the house, dems boycotted the election. The reds won, election invalidated by yellow's palls from the court, dems call for boycott of the next poll.

the country is going down the drain, not the government, but courts, agencies and fascist mob on the streets running amok, destroying what is left from the reasonable economic, political and social stability.

The country has gone down the drain courtessy of Suthep and a spineless Democrat Party that runs away from elections because it has nothing to offer the country. They are aided and abeted by institutions that were set up after 2006 to ensure the Dems would and their backers would retain power.

Yet again an election has been stolen from the people because certain elitist interests do not want the people of this country to elect a government of their choosing. Mark my words.The people will not forget and they will not forgive. There are already reports in the international news media saying that the Dems will boycott the next election and Suthep's mob will disrupt it. Those Suthep cheerleaders on this forum should hang their heads in shame. Your man has blown it for the country big time. And it is the ordinary Thai citizen who will suffer because of it.

your opinion, maybe, but far from facts.

It would seem that a government controlled wby a criminal fugitive abroad and which manages to "lose" 700++ billion on a rice price pledging program only seems more interested in helping the country going down the drain.

As for stolen elections, the "democracy = elections" is getting more and more absurd. Try something new.

Anyway Thaksin a new passport, 700++ billion down the drain and the Thai taxpayer will suffer.

BTW did the caretaker MoF already have the 20 billion borrowed forwarded to the BAAC so that that state bank can finally try to pay a few more farmers?

Democracy starts with elections.

Whatever other elements a system may or may not have, if there are no elections, it is not a Democracy and it is certainly not a true or absolute democracy or whatever other jackass term the yellow clowns want to try and pass off their apartheid as.

[Local Drunk]

As much as want to see the backs of the corrupt and cheating Shinawatwa's, I think this is a bad day for Thailand as it has set a president whereby next time the PTP (or what ever name they are going by at the time) could use the same tactics to nullify an election.

That would assume a government would try to push through an election just like the Yingluck government tried to. Lots of 'nice' platitudes from Ms. Yingluck on what she could or could not, lots of threats from Pheu Thai MPs and members if the election would not continue. Etc., etc.

No, rubl, this judgement allows anyone with an agenda to disrupt the elections and get them nullified.

What do you mean "push through an election"? Ridiculous statement. The dissolution was announced, the election was held in the timescale dictated by the constitution. Is that too "rushed" for you? suthep and his anti democrats vowed to disrupt the election and they succeeded in his stronghold states. How do you legislate for your chosen one?

"This election will never happen because we the people don't want it," Mr. Suthep

What would have happened if the Thammasat Uni lecturer hadn't been encouraged to raise this issue through the CC - the elections would have stood as constitutional? The CC would have ruled the elections as unconstitutional themselves if they thought they were, surely, isn't that their job? They shouldn't have to rely on members of the public with a specific political agenda to bring their attention to it.

Welcome to the land where everything needs to be reformed apart from the judiciary - why is that do you think?

Better question to ask is to ask, "why not question your government.?" Is that so wrong? Who encouraged him to file the complaint? You don't say. Where is your proof that this particular lecturer has a specific political agenda? You also assume that ["everything needs to be reformed apart from the judiciary] that there are no honest people in Thailand. Moreover it's not the job of the CC to bring charges against anyone. That's Charlem's and Tarit's job.

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reds have won every single election, every time stronger

surely you mean thaksins parties, trt and ptp, reds have won absolutely nothing, they are simply thaksins paid thugs he organized to cause conflicts to favour him and his party. When have we ever seen the "red" party at an election, their members yes, voting for thaksin but they have never won an election and they never would, thai people are way to smart for that to happen.