Former PM Abhisit rejects murder charges in 2010 turmoil

[whybother]

Their justification of the crackdown, of which the courts have ruled that the army were responsible for many of the deaths, was that there were 500+ heavily armed terrorists. If their justification was valid, why weren't any of the people shot by the army armed?

Have you seen reports for all the people supposedly shot by the army?

Many of the people that were shot were taken to the hospital by other protesters. Do you think that they would also take any evidence of them being armed with them?

[Mackie]

Charging them with "premeditated" murder is just ridiculous and obviously political. Turn about is fair play. I'm going to have a good laugh when the same thing happens to Poo and her brother's loyal guard dog, Chalerm for the deaths of the protestors who clashed with the police.

"Charging them with "premeditated" murder is just ridiculous and obviously political"

Same as the Thaksin's land purchase-signing-for-his-wife thing.

Murder however is a 'different kettle of fish'. Using the State Security spin will be the excuse his friends in court will need as cover for their inevitable judgment. Any impartial observer would have a problem with that however, considering the 80% female protesters camped out at R'song. Did that require the military to be sent in with all guns ablaze?

Calling little old ladies 'terrorists' is particularly galling, and not humorous, when one considers what was done to them.

Your post is abject nonsense as usual.

You sound like a broken record. Why denying obvious? There are multiple independent sources which confirmed that red shirt militants outside and inside the temple were armed. Running battles were going on around the R'song with red shirt militants and men in black firing at Thai soldiers. There are also eye witnesses who confirmed that some of the dead were seen with firearms in front of the temple firing at soldiers. There is no court in the world which would convict Abhisit based on the evidence. He acted according to Thai laws and Thai constitution. Moreover the majority of Thai public required action. He had full backing from the public. Let's not forget that.

Edited March 24, 2014 by Mackie

[Rich teacher]

Their justification of the crackdown, of which the courts have ruled that the army were responsible for many of the deaths, was that there were 500+ heavily armed terrorists. If their justification was valid, why weren't any of the people shot by the army armed?

Have you seen reports for all the people supposedly shot by the army?

Many of the people that were shot were taken to the hospital by other protesters. Do you think that they would also take any evidence of them being armed with them?

Everyone knows that a photo or video of an armed black shirt shot dead by authorities would have been worth its weight in gold. If they had the ability to shoot them with snipers then they certainly had the ability to get a photo.

[whybother]

Everyone knows that a photo or video of an armed black shirt shot dead by authorities would have been worth its weight in gold. If they had the ability to shoot them with snipers then they certainly had the ability to get a photo.

Have you seen photos of all of the 90 people killed? Have you seen ANY photos taken by army personnel?

[max72]

These murderers should be face The Hague Court from crimes against the humanity.

They are losers, hated by most of Thais, uncapable to win any election even with the Courts , Electoral Commission, army, bank, media in their favors, so they resort to massacre of innocents to keep the power or to gain it violently.

[max72]

Charging them with "premeditated" murder is just ridiculous and obviously political. Turn about is fair play. I'm going to have a good laugh when the same thing happens to Poo and her brother's loyal guard dog, Chalerm for the deaths of the protestors who clashed with the police.

"Charging them with "premeditated" murder is just ridiculous and obviously political"

Same as the Thaksin's land purchase-signing-for-his-wife thing.

Murder however is a 'different kettle of fish'. Using the State Security spin will be the excuse his friends in court will need as cover for their inevitable judgment. Any impartial observer would have a problem with that however, considering the 80% female protesters camped out at R'song. Did that require the military to be sent in with all guns ablaze?

Calling little old ladies 'terrorists' is particularly galling, and not humorous, when one considers what was done to them.

Your post is abject nonsense as usual.

You sound like a broken record. Why denying obvious? There are multiple independent sources which confirmed that red shirt militants outside and inside the temple were armed. Running battles were going on around the R'song with red shirt militants and men in black firing at Thai soldiers. There are also eye witnesses who confirmed that some of the dead were seen with firearms in front of the temple firing at soldiers. There is no court in the world which would convict Abhisit based on the evidence. He acted according to Thai laws and Thai constitution. Moreover the majority of Thai public required action. He had full backing from the public. Let's not forget that.

Who told you those stories ? Your hero, the assassin ultra convicted Suthep ?

The italian journalist Fabio Polenghi , shot by the army, was also armed?

The japanese reported shot in Tanao Road was also armed ?

I can tell you he was not, because i was 2 meters from him, the army just started killing people like crazy,including women and children who were camped near the Sanam Luam.

The japanese reporter had a camera in his hands filiming the horrible massacre, so he was shot.

Same thing to fabio Polenghi, whos sister had to flee Thailand, after the death threats by the army.

Nice try, try again next time with your hero Suthep's lies, maybe you will be more lucky.

[whybother]

Who told you those stories ? Your hero, the assassin ultra convicted Suthep ?

The italian journalist Fabio Polenghi , shot by the army, was also armed?

The japanese reported shot in Tanao Road was also armed ?

I can tell you he was not, because i was 2 meters from him, the army just started killing people like crazy,including women and children who were camped near the Sanam Luam.

The japanese reporter had a camera in his hands filiming the horrible massacre, so he was shot.

Same thing to fabio Polenghi, whos sister had to flee Thailand, after the death threats by the army.

Nice try, try again next time with your hero Suthep's lies, maybe you will be more lucky.

I hope you've made yourself known to the prosecutors. They'd be very interested talking to someone so close to the action.

[fab4]

Charging them with "premeditated" murder is just ridiculous and obviously political. Turn about is fair play. I'm going to have a good laugh when the same thing happens to Poo and her brother's loyal guard dog, Chalerm for the deaths of the protestors who clashed with the police.

"Charging them with "premeditated" murder is just ridiculous and obviously political"

Same as the Thaksin's land purchase-signing-for-his-wife thing.

Murder however is a 'different kettle of fish'. Using the State Security spin will be the excuse his friends in court will need as cover for their inevitable judgment. Any impartial observer would have a problem with that however, considering the 80% female protesters camped out at R'song. Did that require the military to be sent in with all guns ablaze?

Calling little old ladies 'terrorists' is particularly galling, and not humorous, when one considers what was done to them.

Your post is abject nonsense as usual.

You sound like a broken record. Why denying obvious? There are multiple independent sources which confirmed that red shirt militants outside and inside the temple were armed. Running battles were going on around the R'song with red shirt militants and men in black firing at Thai soldiers. There are also eye witnesses who confirmed that some of the dead were seen with firearms in front of the temple firing at soldiers. There is no court in the world which would convict Abhisit based on the evidence. He acted according to Thai laws and Thai constitution. Moreover the majority of Thai public required action. He had full backing from the public. Let's not forget that.

Why deny the obvious - There are multiple independent sources which confirmed that red shirt militants outside and inside the temple were armed.There are also eye witnesses who confirmed that some of the dead were seen with firearms in front of the temple firing at soldiers.

Sansern the Army apologist spokesman stated that the people in the temple were "killed by unidentified snipers" (he was right in one sense, none of the army killers have been named)

Do you believe that?

Or do you believe the inquest, where eyewitnesses testified that there were no 3rd Party gunmen firing at the soldiers on the elevated tracks and that basically the soldiers "defence" that there were, was a tissue of lies?

Judging by the revisionist "facts" posted above, they are in good company.

[KevinB]

Oh - I must sign out ASAP - I can see this is going to degenerate into another of those very boring blind Red supporters versus the Reactionary Old Guard slanging matches - Go for it guys. Good Night

[Tingnongnoi]

Who told you those stories ? Your hero, the assassin ultra convicted Suthep ?

The italian journalist Fabio Polenghi , shot by the army, was also armed?

The japanese reported shot in Tanao Road was also armed ?

I can tell you he was not, because i was 2 meters from him, the army just started killing people like crazy,including women and children who were camped near the Sanam Luam.

The japanese reporter had a camera in his hands filiming the horrible massacre, so he was shot.

Same thing to fabio Polenghi, whos sister had to flee Thailand, after the death threats by the army.

Nice try, try again next time with your hero Suthep's lies, maybe you will be more lucky.

I hope you've made yourself known to the prosecutors. They'd be very interested talking to someone so close to the action.

with clear evidence too no doubt!

[Pi Sek]

So, when Abhisit beats this case because his clear instruction was to follow the escalation of use of force under international standards, I wonder if Tharit will then turn his attention to uncovering which individuals in the armed forces decided to overrule Abhisit's instruction.

[northernjohn]

It will be a few lifetimes at least before Abhisit gets able to clean all the blood on his hands.

Idiotic.

Do you live in Chiang Mai, per chance?

Jeez I hope not. We really don't need another loose canon.

On the other hand maybe he does and the smog has damaged his thinking apparatus.

[northernjohn]

Are you calling the civilians (ie non-protesters), the journalists and the army personnel that were killed "terrorists"?

No AV & ST were the ones wantonly bandying this term around.

They weren't calling the journalists or the people killed at Sala Daeng terrorists.

Their justification of the crackdown, of which the courts have ruled that the army were responsible for many of the deaths, was that there were 500+ heavily armed terrorists. If their justification was valid, why weren't any of the people shot by the army armed?

Because the guy next to them picked up their gun.

Ask a hard one.

[loonodingle]

The Question is did he make specific orders not to shoot.

[Rich teacher]

Are you calling the civilians (ie non-protesters), the journalists and the army personnel that were killed "terrorists"?

No AV & ST were the ones wantonly bandying this term around.

They weren't calling the journalists or the people killed at Sala Daeng terrorists.

Their justification of the crackdown, of which the courts have ruled that the army were responsible for many of the deaths, was that there were 500+ heavily armed terrorists. If their justification was valid, why weren't any of the people shot by the army armed?

Because the guy next to them picked up their gun.

Ask a hard one.

Extremely lame reply. If they can shoot them with a sniper they can get a photo of it even easier, and another one of 'the next guy picking up their gun'. If the guy next to them went to pick up the gun where the sniper had just fired, why didn't the shooter just shoot the next one? Wouldn't need to even adjust his aim. How many people would run to the exact position where a sniper is aiming? They would be running in the opposite direction.

[HuaHinHim]

Did they think he would put his hands in the air and say, yep I did it. Stupid story

[jagriffin2]

As I recall there were over 25,000 graft cases against over 650 politicians before suthep started his nonsense. Seems to me that the gov't should be more concerned with putting all those scum bags in jail and get a new breed of more honest politicians in. That is the real Reset Thailand.