SoilSpoil Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Thailand's biggest problem is not the Shinawatra mafia clan, cause you can use the courts to get rid of them. No, the main problem of this country is that there seems to be no alternative. Suthep has swallowed his whistle if what's written here is true! The only way forward is to reform police, the justice system, throw Thaksin in jail through Interpol and have new elections. Cheers thanks for the comedy, Would you have any idea of a time line on your strategy? Well with the present lot, the PT/Shins, robbing the country blind, I would say somewhere between now and 2 years. Any longer and foreigners will be allowed to buy land in Thailand cause the country will be bankrupted and needs foreign currencies. The problem, let me repeat it, is that the PT will be ousted (amnesty law, rice scheme corruption and all other shenanigans) and that the opposition is/seems lost in translation. The devil's advocate at work. What would your strategy be? A foreign intervention? Hun Sen is very involved in the present mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I just checked The Nation and the other one and nothing remotely like the Khaosod report......can a journal be SO wrong (although other contributors before me have implied so). If it's as wrong as it appears it's worse than appalling, it's highly dangerous! http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/403603/suthep-ups-the-ante-for-final-battle for a start. My cab driver ten minutes ago was visibly upset too about the threats of firing squads. It's not just Khaosod no matter how the Suthep fan club wishes to spin it. You should also check The Nation's tweets last night. Their pages seem to somewhat watered down today which is not surprising when one considers how much the Nation group has invested in Suthep. Khaosod is not the only news outlet with an agenda. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroona Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Difficult to believe he would come out with something so stupid. Maybe someone got the date mixed up and imagined April 1st arrived late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. All dictators lose touch with reality in the end ( it's part of their megalomania ) and now Suthep's gone the same way as Thaksin. Guess he'll wander off into the desert too before long. Edited April 6, 2014 by bigbamboo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Looks like suthep has spent too much time in the sun. Maybe its because he has been blowing his whistle too much.. I've heard that hyperventilation can cause delusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtFarmer Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I just checked The Nation and the other one and nothing remotely like the Khaosod report......can a journal be SO wrong (although other contributors before me have implied so). If it's as wrong as it appears it's worse than appalling, it's highly dangerous! Check the other newspaper the have a slightly different version ( a bit more watered down) but I think you can decide for yourself on that Cheers! Edited April 6, 2014 by DirtFarmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Absolutely idiotic idea, which will have little support. Given though that his is from Khaosod, I'm not going to give it much credence until it is reported in BP and The Nation, if he actually did indeed say this. The country needs significant reform, but not led by him. On BP online, he said he would submit someone to HM the King to be ratified as "PM" or something like that. Thai English translations are often not exact. He didn't say it would be him,and rumors are that it would be someone else other than him. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoonman Posted April 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2014 Isn't Suthep wanted for murder ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Absolutely idiotic idea, which will have little support. Given though that his is from Khaosod, I'm not going to give it much credence until it is reported in BP and The Nation, if he actually did indeed say this. The country needs significant reform, but not led by him. On BP online, he said he would submit someone to HM the King to be ratified as "PM" or something like that. Thai English translations are often not exact. He didn't say it would be him,and rumors are that it would be someone else other than him. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Yes, I noted that yesterday. I think we gave seen Palakorn's name mooted , although he can hardly be classed as neutral. Suthep should let the courts get on with their jobs and walk away, he's done his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rijb Posted April 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2014 This just in... Dennis Rodman has already volunteered to visit the future Dear Coup Leader. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hope he will not end in the same way as the Italian Duce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hope he will not end in the same way as the Italian Duce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skint Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Reading that article it is far from what the people want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 And I was under impression he has no platform! This "Adolf Illich" Suthep is a raving lunatic. Last time I've seen speeches and language like this was when I studied "Mein Kampf". 'Waiting for the day of the battle'! Is he talking of a Putsch German style? Maybe he is a Chulalongkorn Graduate? Unbelieveable! Only in Thailand! And the gutless Yingluck is to blame for such obscene politics to paralyze the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Absolutely idiotic idea, which will have little support. Given though that his is from Khaosod, I'm not going to give it much credence until it is reported in BP and The Nation, if he actually did indeed say this. The country needs significant reform, but not led by him. It's pretty obvious that this lunatic show is dead in the water when even mr toad gives them up... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 do people here on TV really care what suthep (or any other thai politician) says/wants/etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Very strange article from a red news website, BP are another interpretation of this news........ With a low turn out the reds are desperate and try to fuel situation with sensational news Edited April 6, 2014 by than 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 "We will have something like Article 17 [of 1959 Administrative Charter] as the highest law," Mr. Suthep said, referring to the charter article which allowed Field Marshal Sarit to fight suspected Communist threats by all means, " will be able to order anyone to be executed by firing squad, but I will only freeze assets".Once His Majesty the King signed his approval for the "people's coup", Mr. Suthep said, he will proceed to appoint National Legislative Assemby and "People's Council" as two unelected legislative bodies to engage in "reforms" for Thailand. I am not quite sure about these ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 "We will have something like Article 17 [of 1959 Administrative Charter] as the highest law," Mr. Suthep said, referring to the charter article which allowed Field Marshal Sarit to fight suspected Communist threats by all means, " will be able to order anyone to be executed by firing squad, but I will only freeze assets". Once His Majesty the King signed his approval for the "people's coup", Mr. Suthep said, he will proceed to appoint National Legislative Assemby and "People's Council" as two unelected legislative bodies to engage in "reforms" for Thailand. I am not quite sure about these ideas. Compare with BP news they are very different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Isn't Suthep wanted for murder ? He's been accused/charged with it...but the case hasn't went to trial yet...that will be years away if it ever occurs. Tahksin is wanted also, except he has already been found guilty on a couple of corruption charges by the courts and he left the country to avoid prison. Yeap, getting hard to find a senior Thai politician who is not under investigation, up on charges, being sued, or been convicted of something. Edited April 6, 2014 by Pib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yingluk is looking more sensible by the day. What a choice! Sent from my GT-N5120 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Isn't Suthep wanted for murder ? Dunno! Ask these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezzainoz Posted April 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2014 Oh dear oh dear. For all those people who said, Suthep doesn't want power himself, hmmmmmm. Do people really want to give this bloke this absolute power to control anything. He needs to step away from the adulation of his own support. It seems there are so many TVF members who have been taken as fools My Thai wife and her friends where there and she says Suthep never said any such thing even some one is bad translating Thai, or some one is making fools out of Farlang who jump the min they her the word Suthep The are thousands of Thais protesting and that includes my wife and her friends, who would never allow Suthep to take over the rule of the country, he is just a leader they put up with to bring the people together Instead of jumping the gun, when do you not have the common sense to wait and see what the real leader sof the Dem Party have to say 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 This just in... Dennis Rodman has already volunteered to visit the future Dear Coup Leader. I think Dennis prefers his rulers to be ultra wealthy family dynasty types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted April 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2014 Absolutely idiotic idea, which will have little support. Given though that his is from Khaosod, I'm not going to give it much credence until it is reported in BP and The Nation, if he actually did indeed say this. The country needs significant reform, but not led by him. It's pretty obvious that this lunatic show is dead in the water when even mr toad gives them up... I have never supported Suthep as a credible leader of the country. He is, and I have always believed to be a Trojan horse to get rid of the corrupt and criminally led PTP. There still needs to be reform before an election, and he has IMO done his job. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Power corrupts absolutely. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and installing himself saying what he does makes him really no,better than shincorp. Sutheo you are letting the people down! Marcusd. Via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 do people here on TV really care what suthep (or any other thai politician) says/wants/etc? Of course they do, what else would they have to talk about, sitting there drinking Pina Colada's with an umbrella in it, banging the world to rights ? !! I'm not fond of the guy, I'm all for reformations, although if I was a Thai, I'd have preferred to have had elections or at least a referendum as to whether the Peoples council was what the majority wanted, I think Suthep's intentions started off well, and honourable, and I was all in favour of these, and the carnival approach to the protests, but I went right of him, and the protesters when they did all they could to stop the rest of the country voting.. He's become very irrational of late, the constant final pushes etc, he's the kid who will, if he doesn't get his way be dragged away still kicking and screaming. I have no real thoughts on the Old/caretaker Government, I was never effected by any of their policies as I suspect that it's the same for many here too, the ones who have businesses etc, I can empathise with, tax payers will always whine about where their pound/dollar or baht goes, that's par for the course. There was a few TVF farmers who were affected by the rice scheme as well, and again I can sympathise with them, but the majority I would again suspect have no ties whatsoever with the failed rice pledge scheme, other than "It was my tax money" Thailand does need a strong leader, and it does need reforms, it need a lot of TLC , it doesn't need the Sutheps or the Shiniwatras , fire them all off to Zimbabwe and let them share a few beers with Robert Mugabe!!. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I just find this amazing 180 degree turn to be horseapples. Anybody seen coverage of the "Red-Shirt rallies with 60,000 supporters..." ? Not 1 violent out-break with a speech like this being made? Not even a drive-by ala L.A. style? Bah ERA: Translation does not accurately convey/translate intent. If you read through the whole story slowly you see references to "Putting people in power" AND "Coming back to protest if the new people in charge screw up". If you're the head guy in charge, you wouldn't start and lead a new protest against an MP or senate member. Edited April 6, 2014 by mrwebb8825 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 This just in... Dennis Rodman has already volunteered to visit the future Dear Coup Leader. I think Dennis prefers his rulers to be ultra wealthy family dynasty types. The wealth will come when he's finished working on his cult of personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Very strange article from a red news website, BP are another interpretation of this news........ With a low turn out the reds are desperate and try to fuel situation with sensational news I think this is the article you refer to http://asiancorrespondent.com/author/bangkokpundit/ . BP interestingly maintains that the government has already vacated office under 180.2 en masse as a result of the dissolution of Parliament. Therefore it can't be made to vacate office en masse again under 180.3 if the PM has been removed from the PMship. Meanwhile, 181 requires the outgoing cabinet to remain as a caretaker cabinet until the next government is appointed. This the same argument that Chalerm has been putting forward. It will be interesting to see how the court resolves this one, if Yingluck is removed from office. The notion that the caretaker cabinet can avoid collection punishment because they have already vacated office but effectively remain in office is an interesting paradox. If this is the case any government whose PM is facing removal should dissolve Parliament immediately, so they can hang on, perhaps indefinitely, as caretakers. In this event they could remain in office as caretakers for several years while the PDRC repeatedly disrupts any attempts to hold elections. The only thing that could get them out would be indictment and successful impeachment or criminal prosecution for the 2.2trn borrowing bill which implicates the entire cabinet. Edited April 6, 2014 by Dogmatix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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