patong too expensive for the average joe

[coconutbar]

Is it me or has patong had it vibe destroyed by 300 baht+ entrance fees exorbitant drink prices and stuck up ladys????

[iSabai]

Nope. It's not you.

[patayayaya]

The straw that broke the camels back was when they started entrance fees for hollywood discothèque . Now it's hardened hookers wall too wall, middle easterns,Indians and Russians with your muscle truck tatooted drunk Aussie <deleted> peppered in there .

[falkan]

Seduction,Tiger and Hollywood 300baht entrance, last 10 years i seen the old farts move out from these places and being replaced by younger guys i think the only one who complains are the old farts as the bar girls rather go with the more younger handsome guys...

[art vandelay]

do you need any more incentive to get a life?

[coconutbar]

Seduction,Tiger and Hollywood 300baht entrance, last 10 years i seen the old farts move out from these places and being replaced by younger guys i think the only one who complains are the old farts as the bar girls rather go with the more younger handsome guys...

there's the contradiction , why on earth does a young handsome man need to go to Thailand to pay for boom boom.

[Old Croc]

The straw that broke the camels back was when they started entrance fees for hollywood discothèque . Now it's hardened hookers wall too wall, middle easterns,Indians and Russians with your muscle truck tatooted drunk Aussie <deleted> peppered in there .

and one racist p...k from Pataya

[falkan]

Seduction,Tiger and Hollywood 300baht entrance, last 10 years i seen the old farts move out from these places and being replaced by younger guys i think the only one who complains are the old farts as the bar girls rather go with the more younger handsome guys...

there's the contradiction , why on earth does a young handsome man need to go to Thailand to pay for boom boom.

you be surprised how many young guys that don't need to pay because the bar girls already have some old fart sending them money every month and believing it will make them stay away from the bar..555

[JetsetBkk]

The straw that broke the camels back was when they started entrance fees for hollywood discothèque . Now it's hardened hookers wall too wall, middle easterns,Indians and Russians with your muscle truck tatooted drunk Aussie <deleted> peppered in there .

and one racist p...k from Pataya

Don't be daft. Nothing racist about those comments. It bigotry, pure and simple.

[robertthebruce]

Ah Patong, the new ''Monte Carlo'' of ''Asia''..

[Somtamnication]

..... note to self: Over the past 13 years I have been to Patong maybe 20 times. Continue to avoid that hellhole.

[keestha]

Often tourists have complained to me about high beer prices in Patong. I never quite understand, when I occasionally go there myself, I always find the prices are normal, like usually 70 - 80 at the most 90 Baht for a Leo beer. But then, I only go there in the low season, and do my drinking in open air beer bars, never in discotheques or a gogo's.

[eezergood]

Just dont go into the bars that require you to pay?

[nedkellylives]

Seduction,Tiger and Hollywood 300baht entrance, last 10 years i seen the old farts move out from these places and being replaced by younger guys i think the only one who complains are the old farts as the bar girls rather go with the more younger handsome guys...

there's the contradiction , why on earth does a young handsome man need to go to Thailand to pay for boom boom.

you be surprised how many young guys that don't need to pay because the bar girls already have some old fart sending them money every month and believing it will make them stay away from the bar..555

If they are going to give it away its to their Thai boyfriends

[NamKangMan]

Many bars in the new Tiger are charging around 220 baht for a lady drink and a 1000 baht bar fine. The focus of these bars went from selling alcohol, to sell sex, because their rents are so high compared to the old Tiger.

Therefore, the nightclubs became more popular, as experienced tourists went to freelancers. The nightclubs are charging around 170 baht a beer.

The beer bars are around 100 baht a beer and mostly 500 baht bar fine.

On my last visit to Pattaya, the beer bars were around 80 baht a beer and all of them were 300 baht bar fine. A beer in a nightclub on Walking Street was 150 baht.

It's true that some of the Thai girls give it up for free to the younger forigners, well, they create the illusion it's for free. They already have money sent over every month and just want to party with their friends, with a foreigner picking up the drinks bill, stay in a nice hotel and eat in nice restaurants for the next 10 nights.

Their story to the younger tourists is usually the same - "me and my friends are from Bangkok and we are here on holidays" - hence, the "partying." The Thai girls play tour guides by day, and bumming on the beach with them, and party with them at night. Many of these guys will take the girls shopping, in appreciation for showing them around, teaching them a few Thai words etc etc.

When those young guys go home, they find another group of young guys the week after. Why would they work in a rice field in Issan when they can have a lifestyle like that, at the age of 20?

When the older forigner, the one sending money every month, comes back to Thailand, she "meets" him in Phuket because he likes Phuket. It all starts again, after he leaves.

Been going on for years.

[nedkellylives]

Many bars in the new Tiger are charging around 220 baht for a lady drink and a 1000 baht bar fine. The focus of these bars went from selling alcohol, to sell sex, because their rents are so high compared to the old Tiger.

Therefore, the nightclubs became more popular, as experienced tourists went to freelancers. The nightclubs are charging around 170 baht a beer.

The beer bars are around 100 baht a beer and mostly 500 baht bar fine.

On my last visit to Pattaya, the beer bars were around 80 baht a beer and all of them were 300 baht bar fine. A beer in a nightclub on Walking Street was 150 baht.

It's true that some of the Thai girls give it up for free to the younger forigners, well, they create the illusion it's for free. They already have money sent over every month and just want to party with their friends, with a foreigner picking up the drinks bill, stay in a nice hotel and eat in nice restaurants for the next 10 nights.

Their story to the younger tourists is usually the same - "me and my friends are from Bangkok and we are here on holidays" - hence, the "partying." The Thai girls play tour guides by day, and bumming on the beach with them, and party with them at night. Many of these guys will take the girls shopping, in appreciation for showing them around, teaching them a few Thai words etc etc.

When those young guys go home, they find another group of young guys the week after. Why would they work in a rice field in Issan when they can have a lifestyle like that, at the age of 20?

When the older forigner, the one sending money every month, comes back to Thailand, she "meets" him in Phuket because he likes Phuket. It all starts again, after he leaves.

Been going on for years.

Confirms what i have believed for a long time, you are a expert on bar girls

Sometimes called a sexpat

[Old Croc]

I also rarely go to Patong these days and then only for business reasons or to show visitors around. I've never paid to go into a club there.

I did live there for a while, and can understand why some people prefer it. I enjoyed some of what the place has to offer in the way of restaurants and entertaining beer bars.

Patong brings in a lot of tourist dollars/roubles/yen/shekels to Thailand and the province of Phuket in particular, so there is obviously a need for it in the scheme of things.

However, it is just a small, specialised town tucked away in a bay on the west coast of the much larger Phuket Province where the greatest majority of us expats live a great life.

If you want to party go to Patong, but the rest of the Province has some of the best attractions and scenery in the country.

[NamKangMan]

Many bars in the new Tiger are charging around 220 baht for a lady drink and a 1000 baht bar fine. The focus of these bars went from selling alcohol, to sell sex, because their rents are so high compared to the old Tiger.

Therefore, the nightclubs became more popular, as experienced tourists went to freelancers. The nightclubs are charging around 170 baht a beer.

The beer bars are around 100 baht a beer and mostly 500 baht bar fine.

On my last visit to Pattaya, the beer bars were around 80 baht a beer and all of them were 300 baht bar fine. A beer in a nightclub on Walking Street was 150 baht.

It's true that some of the Thai girls give it up for free to the younger forigners, well, they create the illusion it's for free. They already have money sent over every month and just want to party with their friends, with a foreigner picking up the drinks bill, stay in a nice hotel and eat in nice restaurants for the next 10 nights.

Their story to the younger tourists is usually the same - "me and my friends are from Bangkok and we are here on holidays" - hence, the "partying." The Thai girls play tour guides by day, and bumming on the beach with them, and party with them at night. Many of these guys will take the girls shopping, in appreciation for showing them around, teaching them a few Thai words etc etc.

When those young guys go home, they find another group of young guys the week after. Why would they work in a rice field in Issan when they can have a lifestyle like that, at the age of 20?

When the older forigner, the one sending money every month, comes back to Thailand, she "meets" him in Phuket because he likes Phuket. It all starts again, after he leaves.

Been going on for years.

Confirms what i have believed for a long time, you are a expert on bar girls

Sometimes called a sexpat

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

[NamKangMan]

I also rarely go to Patong these days and then only for business reasons or to show visitors around. I've never paid to go into a club there.

I did live there for a while, and can understand why some people prefer it. I enjoyed some of what the place has to offer in the way of restaurants and entertaining beer bars.

Patong brings in a lot of tourist dollars/roubles/yen/shekels to Thailand and the province of Phuket in particular, so there is obviously a need for it in the scheme of things.

However, it is just a small, specialised town tucked away in a bay on the west coast of the much larger Phuket Province where the greatest majority of us expats live a great life.

If you want to party go to Patong, but the rest of the Province has some of the best attractions and scenery in the country.

"Patong brings in a lot of tourist dollars/roubles/yen/shekels to Thailand and the province of Phuket in particular, so there is obviously a need for it in the scheme of things." - I've been saying this for sometime on TV. Most members hate Patong, but Patong is Phuket biggest tourist attraction, and if Patong was to die a slow death, when it's gone, in my opinion, many of us expats will not be able to enjoy a lot of the the things we currently are able to source on the island, also, prices will rise, for everything, considerably.

Love it or hate it, Patong is important to the Phuket economy, and if it were to die, we could be looking at "The Phuket Financial Crisis."

Edited April 9, 2014 by NamKangMan

[nedkellylives]

Many bars in the new Tiger are charging around 220 baht for a lady drink and a 1000 baht bar fine. The focus of these bars went from selling alcohol, to sell sex, because their rents are so high compared to the old Tiger.

Therefore, the nightclubs became more popular, as experienced tourists went to freelancers. The nightclubs are charging around 170 baht a beer.

The beer bars are around 100 baht a beer and mostly 500 baht bar fine.

On my last visit to Pattaya, the beer bars were around 80 baht a beer and all of them were 300 baht bar fine. A beer in a nightclub on Walking Street was 150 baht.

It's true that some of the Thai girls give it up for free to the younger forigners, well, they create the illusion it's for free. They already have money sent over every month and just want to party with their friends, with a foreigner picking up the drinks bill, stay in a nice hotel and eat in nice restaurants for the next 10 nights.

Their story to the younger tourists is usually the same - "me and my friends are from Bangkok and we are here on holidays" - hence, the "partying." The Thai girls play tour guides by day, and bumming on the beach with them, and party with them at night. Many of these guys will take the girls shopping, in appreciation for showing them around, teaching them a few Thai words etc etc.

When those young guys go home, they find another group of young guys the week after. Why would they work in a rice field in Issan when they can have a lifestyle like that, at the age of 20?

When the older forigner, the one sending money every month, comes back to Thailand, she "meets" him in Phuket because he likes Phuket. It all starts again, after he leaves.

Been going on for years.

Confirms what i have believed for a long time, you are a expert on bar girls

Sometimes called a sexpat

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

Someone with a huge knowledge of bar girls, how they operate and what they charge

So you have all the qualifications

[NamKangMan]

Many bars in the new Tiger are charging around 220 baht for a lady drink and a 1000 baht bar fine. The focus of these bars went from selling alcohol, to sell sex, because their rents are so high compared to the old Tiger.

Therefore, the nightclubs became more popular, as experienced tourists went to freelancers. The nightclubs are charging around 170 baht a beer.

The beer bars are around 100 baht a beer and mostly 500 baht bar fine.

On my last visit to Pattaya, the beer bars were around 80 baht a beer and all of them were 300 baht bar fine. A beer in a nightclub on Walking Street was 150 baht.

It's true that some of the Thai girls give it up for free to the younger forigners, well, they create the illusion it's for free. They already have money sent over every month and just want to party with their friends, with a foreigner picking up the drinks bill, stay in a nice hotel and eat in nice restaurants for the next 10 nights.

Their story to the younger tourists is usually the same - "me and my friends are from Bangkok and we are here on holidays" - hence, the "partying." The Thai girls play tour guides by day, and bumming on the beach with them, and party with them at night. Many of these guys will take the girls shopping, in appreciation for showing them around, teaching them a few Thai words etc etc.

When those young guys go home, they find another group of young guys the week after. Why would they work in a rice field in Issan when they can have a lifestyle like that, at the age of 20?

When the older forigner, the one sending money every month, comes back to Thailand, she "meets" him in Phuket because he likes Phuket. It all starts again, after he leaves.

Been going on for years.

Confirms what i have believed for a long time, you are a expert on bar girls

Sometimes called a sexpat

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

Someone with a huge knowledge of bar girls, how they operate and what they charge

So you have all the qualifications

The prices of alcohol and bar fines, and some of their BS stories, gives me "huge knowledge" on the subject.

Maybe you should read all my posts, you might learn something for a change, since I have "huge knowledge."

You do know, many guys have written books about this subject - it's no underground secret.

[uptheos]

The prices of alcohol and bar fines, and some of their BS stories, gives me "huge knowledge" on the subject.

Maybe you should read all my posts, you might learn something for a change, since I have "huge knowledge."

You do know, many guys have written books about this subject - it's no underground secret.

I doubt that it's difficult to write a book on the subject.

[LivinginKata]

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

Someone with a huge knowledge of bar girls, how they operate and what they charge

So you have all the qualifications

I would say someone who takes away many different ladies of the night, on a regular basis.

Lot of us never involved in that trade but who have heard a lot of information and become 'knowledgeable' by default.

[nedkellylives]

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

Someone with a huge knowledge of bar girls, how they operate and what they charge

So you have all the qualifications

I would say someone who takes away many different ladies of the night, on a regular basis.

Lot of us never involved in that trade but who have heard a lot of information and become 'knowledgeable' by default.

Yes mate, but do you know all the different current prices at bars and clubs

sexpats do they use their services on a regular basis

[LivinginKata]

Yes mate, but do you know all the different current prices at bars and clubs

sexpats do they use their services on a regular basis

I have a good idea, as I read many posts here on Thaivisa that reveal that sort of data.

[nedkellylives]

Yes mate, but do you know all the different current prices at bars and clubs

sexpats do they use their services on a regular basis

I have a good idea, as I read many posts here on Thaivisa that reveal that sort of data.

Naughty boy does your mrs know you are keeping up to date on prices

[LivinginKata]

Yes mate, but do you know all the different current prices at bars and clubs

sexpats do they use their services on a regular basis

I have a good idea, as I read many posts here on Thaivisa that reveal that sort of data.

Naughty boy does your mrs know you are keeping up to date on prices

Yes, she knows I spend a lot of time reading Thaivisa. As you well know. And I spend no time whatsoever at girlie or any bars. Just saying that your argument of your definition of sexpats is using incomplete data.

[NamKangMan]

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

Someone with a huge knowledge of bar girls, how they operate and what they charge

So you have all the qualifications

I would say someone who takes away many different ladies of the night, on a regular basis.

Lot of us never involved in that trade but who have heard a lot of information and become 'knowledgeable' by default.

"Lot of us never involved in that trade but who have heard a lot of information and become 'knowledgeable' by default." - I'm sure if we took a survey of Phuket Forum members, it would reveal that NONE of member's girlfriends/wives ever worked in a bar girl or massage shop or freelancer, which would be simply unbelievable, because, "their girl is different."

This post is not aimed at anyone in particular, and is not meant to offend.

It's undeniable that that many on Phuket, and Thailand in general, have started a relationship with a Thai women who previously worked in the sex trade. They have "knowledge" of the "trade" because they were once a customer of it.

Are they to called "reformed sexpats?"

Edited April 9, 2014 by NamKangMan

[nedkellylives]

Seems to me that its easy to meet women in Patong, on the street, in markets and shops even

Jungceylon, if you have some dress standards, not flip flops, black shorts and a singlet or tee shirt

with writing on it, women are happy to talk to you if you know how to have a conversation

never paid for a bar girls company and never been out with a professional lady in my home country

I would not pay excessive prices for drinks or entrance fees just to meet a woman who's company

i could buy although i understand why some men would

[NamKangMan]

No expert, common knowledge for anyone living on Phuket who has their eyes open.

As for being a "sexpat" - to save any confusion, similar to another thread running, please give me YOUR definition of a "sexpat."

Someone with a huge knowledge of bar girls, how they operate and what they charge

So you have all the qualifications

I would say someone who takes away many different ladies of the night, on a regular basis.

Lot of us never involved in that trade but who have heard a lot of information and become 'knowledgeable' by default.

Yes mate, but do you know all the different current prices at bars and clubs

sexpats do they use their services on a regular basis

I have 3 friends who own bars on Bangla Road and 1 friend who owns a guesthouse/bar in Patong. I talk to them, and have a drink with them all. One of them gives me a lift out, and sometimes home, as he lives near me. Of course I ask them how their business is going and they are happy to talk about many of the behind the scene things, such as paying their tea money. They volunteer information to me that their drink prices have gone up, or they had to sack one of their staff, or one of their staff has been taken out of the bar by a farang etc etc.

I consider the information they pass onto me as first hand and credible, and has been corroborated by the other bar owners.

I'm honest enough to say I have paid some bar fines in my time, but I have also picked up one night stands and had casual sexual relationships in my home country, I'm sure like most members. I've also picked up two farang ladies on holiday here - what's the difference between all these scenarios?

Does any of this make me a problem to society here? What's wrong with enjoying being single?

Edited April 9, 2014 by NamKangMan