Pheu Thai member petitions Senate against NACC nominee

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Pheu Thai member petitions Senate against NACC nominee
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Singthong Buachum on Wednesday petitioned the Senate to object to a Constitution-appointed selection committee's decision to nominate Supa as the new member of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), alleging she has a tainted record.

Singthong cited Article 8 of the Constitution's organic law, which stipulates that nominees for the NACC must possess a clean track record.

He said an NACC committee had resolved to investigate a corruption allegation against Supa.

The selection committee - which comprises Supreme Court president Direk Ingkaninanda, who serves as the committee's chairman; Constitutional Court president Charoon Intachan; and Supreme Administrative Court president Hassavut Vititviriyakul - voted on Wednesday to nominate Supa from among 14 candidates.

Supa will replace Jaided Pornchaiya, whose term expired when he turned 70.

Legal experts have argued that Supa is legally qualified to be a nominee as she only faced a corruption probe, and was not indicted by the NACC and found guilty of the charges.

Her opponents, however, claim she should not be nominated because she would sit on the NACC panel that will have to decide whether she was corrupt.

Finance Ministry permanent secretary Areepong Bhoochaoom last year transferred Supa out of the Comptroller General's Department to take the post of deputy permanent secretary overseeing the Fiscal Policy Office.

Supa chaired the e-auction committee and filed petitions with the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission and the NACC, claiming that the NBTC's auction violated the government's e-auction rules, failed to generate real competition and may have contravened the 1999 State Bidding Act.

Locked horns

Last July, she testified before a Senate panel that the pledging scheme could suffer losses of Bt260 billion.

She has been accused by caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra's camp of providing figures on the rice-pledging scheme counter to post-audit practice.

The nomination of Supa, however, will likely be delayed because the graft agency has to forward her nomination to the Senate for approval.

The Upper House has locked horns with the caretaker government after requesting that the Cabinet issue a royal decree calling for a special Senate session so that it can appoint members of independent agencies.

The government has refused to cooperate with the Senate, citing a legal technicality.

The Senate is likely to seek a Constitutional Court ruling over whether the government can legally call a special Senate session for such an objective.

-- The Nation 2014-04-11

[Robby nz]

Whats the point of that PT, you wont let the senate convene ?

[chainarong]

As predicted by someone yesterday , not twenty four hours has passed and we have a petition from the good ol PTP, a corruption allegation against Supa, now if that ain't callin the pot black what is , I am sure these people live in a fantasy world ,but wait there is more, what did Supa discover about the PTP rice scam scheme, tut tut.

[lemonjelly]

<< Legal experts have argued that Supa is legally qualified to be a nominee as she only faced a corruption probe, and was not indicted by the NACC and or found guilty of the charges.>>................ sorry, just tidying up the grammar to save confusion.

Edited April 11, 2014 by lemonjelly

[scorecard]

'....tainted record....'

How so?

[Scamper]

This seems to definitively address the question that many have been wondering about in recent months - does Pheu Thai have any idea what they're doing ?

The answer is - not in the slightest. Pheu Thai are so wrapped up in their own narrative that they have managed to wrap themselves up in it. Pheu Thai is now trying to prevent the Senate from meeting. Why ? Well, it's a brilliant idea Thaksin had in the middle of the night. If the Senate doesn't meet, they can't deliberate on Yingluck's impeachment, if that is the recommendation of the NACC. It's pure Thaksin. Just bar the Senate from meeting. So there.

Problem is, they want the Senate to meet in order to bar Supa from the NACC. Why ? Because she was sacked from a subcommittee that was supposedly set up to investigate " possible " corruption in the rice scheme. And guess what she did ? She found it ! ( The nerve ! ) So, naturally, she was fired.

But what is the end game in all of this from Pheu Thai's point of view ? Render the Senate permanently out of business ? Live with a quorum-less parliament ? Issue policy through CAPO and facebook ? Exactly what is the end product of this brilliant strategy ? The problem Pheu Thai have had from the start is that they - frankly - don't seem to like anybody. They don't like the Criminal Court. They don't like the Civil Court. They don't like the National Election Commission. They don't like the National Anti-Corruption Commission. They don't like the Administrative Court. They don't like the Supreme Administrative Court. And they certainly don't like the Constitutional Court.

And now, they don't like the Senate, either. Why should this be surprising ? So yet again, the Constitutional Court has to enter the Pheu Thai ring circus and deem that the Senate can indeed function, and that it has constitutional duties to perform. Pheu Thai - just give it up already.

[bigbamboo]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a law that stipulates members of parliament have a clean track record too?

Don't worry, Thaksinistas...... I'm only kidding! That's like saying all bar girls should be virgins.

[pkspeaker]

obviously, she won't let the senate convene because the lower house-which is where real power is supposed to reside, has been sabotaged by the 'establishment'- the establishment being the appointed senators(half of them), appointed nacc, appointed constitutional court etc. ALL these people were appointed by the previous military coup and they are mostly pad affiliated anti-democracy activists.

The goal of this special senate that acts illegally while the lower house has been mowed down, is to sack the PM and her entire cabnet on bogus 'corruption' charges like 'voting to make the upperhouse fully elected: sponsoring an amendment to the constitution that would make the upper house fully elected' and then to APPOINT an non-democratically elected PM, once that PM is in place the pad/pdrc sabotages elections of the lower house forever..

in other words she is preventing the upper house from convening to sabatoage the establishments illegal seizure of power.

Edited April 11, 2014 by pkspeaker

[rubl]

"He said an NACC committee had resolved to investigate a corruption allegation against Supa."

Any details on this ?

[rubl]

obviously, she won't let the senate convene because the lower house-which is where real power is supposed to reside, has been sabotaged by the 'establishment'- the establishment being the appointed senators(half of them), appointed nacc, appointed constitutional court etc. ALL these people were appointed by the previous military coup and they are mostly pad affiliated anti-democracy activists.

The goal of this special senate that acts illegally while the lower house has been mowed down, is to sack the PM and her entire cabnet on bogus 'corruption' charges like 'voting to make the upperhouse fully elected: sponsoring an amendment to the constitution that would make the upper house fully elected' and then to APPOINT an non-democratically elected PM, once that PM is in place the pad/pdrc sabotages elections of the lower house forever..

in other words she is preventing the upper house from convening to sabatoage the establishments illegal seizure of power.

So, Ms. Yingluck is obstructing democracy, parliamentary proceedings and so, you say?

[winstonc]

obviously, she won't let the senate convene because the lower house-which is where real power is supposed to reside, has been sabotaged by the 'establishment'- the establishment being the appointed senators(half of them), appointed nacc, appointed constitutional court etc. ALL these people were appointed by the previous military coup and they are mostly pad affiliated anti-democracy activists.

The goal of this special senate that acts illegally while the lower house has been mowed down, is to sack the PM and her entire cabnet on bogus 'corruption' charges like 'voting to make the upperhouse fully elected: sponsoring an amendment to the constitution that would make the upper house fully elected' and then to APPOINT an non-democratically elected PM, once that PM is in place the pad/pdrc sabotages elections of the lower house forever..

in other words she is preventing the upper house from convening to sabatoage the establishments illegal seizure of power.

and your proof that they are bogus corruption charges...none at all just fantasy going on in your head..

[webfact]

Pheu Thai cries foul over nomination of Ms Supha to NACC



BANGKOK: -- Ruling Pheu Thai party has opposed the nomination of Ms Supha Piyajitti, a deputy Finance permanent secretary, to graft busting job claiming she has a tainted record.

The party’s member Singthong Buachum on Wednesday petitioned the Senate to object constitution-appointed selection committee’s decision to nominate Supha Piyajitti as the new member of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) alleging she has a tainted record.

Singthong cited Article 8 of the Constitution’s organic law, which stipulates that nominees for theNACC must possess a clean track record.

But he said Ms Supha is facing probe on alleged malfeasance charge and therefore lacking qualification to become a NACC member.

He did not give details of the allegation.

Ms Supha is a key official who revealed the huge loss from the implementation of the Yingluck government’s rice-pledging scheme.

Her revelation enraged the caretaker Finance Minister Kittirat na Ranong who countered her claimed loss figure was exaggerated.

She later faced a probe by a fact-finding committee appointed by Mr Kittirat for her disclosure of the loss figure which Kittirat said was classified as official secret that must be kept confidential.

She was later removed from the auditing job of the rice-pledging scheme and transferred to inactive post.

Earlier a former interior minister Pol Capt Purachai Piemsomboon has guaranteed the integrity and sincerity of Ms Supha, saying she is a model of good government official who devoted herself to work for the interest of the people with honesty.

A source said if Ms Supha is appointed to be a NACC member, Ms Yingluck Shinawatra is posed to be in trouble as she is the person who knew exactly well of the rice scheme.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pheu-thai-cries-foul-nomination-ms-supha-nacc/


-- Thai PBS 2014-04-11

[dcutman]

"He said an NACC committee had resolved to investigate a corruption allegation against Supa."

Any details on this ?

Its not she being investigated for corruption, she is being probed for falsely accusing this government of corruption

Probe into rice claim http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Probe-into-rice-claim-30209847.html

[haroldc]

Another desperate move by the kleptocracy to delay their inevitable downfall. Her record is "tainted" because she exposed their corruption!

[rodroy]

If Pheu Thai is objecting then certainly this must be a person honest and above taking PT payoffs!

[tingtongteesood]

As usual, they are nitpicking to try and find any reason to make life difficult as she is not under Taksin's thumb. If it was none of the 'dear leaders' cohorts, they would not give a crap how bad their best friends track record was....H-I-P-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S- !!!

[rubl]

i notice you don't dispute what I said, you just insult. I'm a real member of this forum, 500 posts in 8 years, as opposed to these pad/pdrc trolls that sign up to this site and post 300 times in a few days.

The constitution court and nacc are conspirng to bring down an elected government and replace it with a an unelected dictatorship that has full powers.. this is obvious and anyone who denies this is the one 'on drugs'.

To be fair we do have some fast producing members from both sides of the divide. Not only PAD/PDRC, but also PheuThai / UDD/ THaksinistras.

You may be real, your post show a certain bias when you 'state' the CC/NACC are conspiring. You even manage to link CC/NACC with a distorted picture of PDRC/Suthep's ideas on reform and the need for the people to take power away from those who misuse it.

From one of the original, by now more than 11-year members,

uncle rubl

[Pimay1]

Her revelation enraged the caretaker Finance Minister Kittirat na Ranong who countered her claimed loss figure was exaggerated.
She later faced a probe by a fact-finding committee appointed by Mr Kittirat for her disclosure of the loss figure which Kittirat said was classified as official secret that must be kept confidential.

This statement speaks volumes. Is there one informed PTP supporter on TVF than can explain why the loss figure was classified as an official secret that must be kept confidential? I wait your reply.

Edited April 11, 2014 by Pimay1

[WoopyDoo]

Whats the point of that PT, you wont let the senate convene ?

She is dying on the field of democracy.... However, she failed to mention that she would be on the side that was at war with democracy.

Th PTP will find out soon enough that you can NOT dismantle the principles of democracy, which is what they are trying to do brick by brick.

[siampolee]

BANGKOK: -- Singthong Buachum on Wednesday petitioned the Senate to object to a Constitution-appointed selection committee's decision to nominate Supa as the new member of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), alleging she has a tainted record.

Of course her record is tainted .

She (Supha Piyajitta) understood just how the rice pledging scam scheme was operating and to whose benefit too.

Thus in the eyes and whatever passes for the minds of the P.T.P.puppets she is a corrupt being as she both understood the actions and the motives behind the scam scheme.

That understanding showed only to clearly just how the good lady understood thus she spoke out and condemned the scam scheme

Indeed an alien concept to the P.T.P. and its puppet master

Edited April 11, 2014 by siampolee

[MaxLee]

Such a woman like Supa must be protected at all costs, before the redshirt mercenaries are coming to seriously get her..... and I mean deadly seriously get her....

[khunken]

The problem is that she is tainted by honesty. Only those tainted by corruption or worse are acceptable to Thaksin. Which is why he got rid of K. Purachai as interior minister in one of his cabinets.

Voila! K. Purachai comes out with a strong defence of K Supa. Karma is a bitch.

[SOTIRIOS]

........one lap dog after another......

....following the rabid lead.......

...to retain power at all costs......until the country is completely bankrupt and run into the ground.......

[rreddin]

As predicted by someone yesterday , not twenty four hours has passed and we have a petition from the good ol PTP, a corruption allegation against Supa, now if that ain't callin the pot black what is , I am sure these people live in a fantasy world ,but wait there is more, what did Supa discover about the PTP rice scam scheme, tut tut.

Just a predictable, but which you completely failed to spot , was this tasty little morcel from the OP:" .... she would sit on the NACC panel that will have to decide whether she was corrupt."

That seems to be OK by you because she is not PTP. It is not only some Thais that have double standards!

[khunken]

As predicted by someone yesterday , not twenty four hours has passed and we have a petition from the good ol PTP, a corruption allegation against Supa, now if that ain't callin the pot black what is , I am sure these people live in a fantasy world ,but wait there is more, what did Supa discover about the PTP rice scam scheme, tut tut.

Just a predictable, but which you completely failed to spot , was this tasty little morcel from the OP:" .... she would sit on the NACC panel that will have to decide whether she was corrupt."

That seems to be OK by you because she is not PTP. It is not only some Thais that have double standards!

Selectively posting half a quote to fit your agenda is a dishonest way to argue. Here is the full quote: Her opponents, however, claim she should not be nominated because she would sit on the NACC panel that will have to decide whether she was corrupt.

However the real truth is that:

Legal experts have argued that Supa is legally qualified to be a nominee as she only faced a corruption probe, and was not indicted by the NACC and found guilty of the charges.

[metisdead]

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[geriatrickid]

As predicted by someone yesterday , not twenty four hours has passed and we have a petition from the good ol PTP, a corruption allegation against Supa, now if that ain't callin the pot black what is , I am sure these people live in a fantasy world ,but wait there is more, what did Supa discover about the PTP rice scam scheme, tut tut.

You have neglected to mention that the allegation and investigation date back prior to the nomination. If she violated her code of conduct and did not follow the procedure to go through the ombudsman's office or go directly to the NACC at the time, then she did indeed breach her duty.

[englishoak]

Unfortunately she does have a conflict of interests and isnt untainted, why do i get the feeling that is exactly the point here in this appointment at this time;)

[pattayaorganic]

Unfortunately she does have a conflict of interests and isnt untainted, why do i get the feeling that is exactly the point here in this appointment at this time;)

You have a forensic accountant who blew the whistle on the current government's rice scheme and then she is ALLEGED by the CURRENT GOVERNMENT that she is blowing the whistle on to be tainted and they are using that fact, in a circular definition to state that she is tainted.

For those who don't know the circular definition is a logical fallacy and doesn't hold. That is why the NACC rules that an unsupported allegation is does not meet the definition of "tainted".

In a system of checks and balances, you must not allow the portion of government being checked to stack the decks in their favour, or you create absolute dictatorial power. For those that think that democracy is about winning elections (period) I also suppose you think that Lance Armstrong should be allowed to keep his medals despite a huge mountain of illegal doping. Winning is the name of the game right?

I am sorry to inform you but the balance of powers is a part of democracy as important if not more important than elections themselves. Just as Lance can't keep pointing to his wins as proof of his peddling prowess, PTP cannot even begin to hold an electoral majority when you consider the fact that the DP candidates fear for their lives when campaigning in "red zones" and canvassers have been shot and killed and families threatened by the PTP linked mafioso.

To call PTP the defender of democracy is like calling Lance Armstrong the model of fair sportsmanship.

[scorecard]

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Unfortunately she does have a conflict of interests and isnt untainted, why do i get the feeling that is exactly the point here in this appointment at this time;)

Please explain how so.