Abhisit ready for talks with PM, Thaksin if broadcast live

[55Jay]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

[Siripon]

The Democrats have been trying to get a live, televised debate with Thaksin for a decade now. He refuses, for obvious reasons. I don't see this happening.

The problem is with PTP - they don't have anyone who could debate with knowledge and intelligence.

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They could send Chaturon or Pongthep but then it shows up the Shinawats as incapable of serious discussions or as cowards.

[bigbamboo]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

Whether you like him or not Thaksin is the de facto Prime Minister of Thailand. If anything it is Yingluck who is irrelevant

[55Jay]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

Whether you like him or not Thaksin is the de facto Prime Minister of Thailand. If anything it is Yingluck who is irrelevant

Yep, I'm sure you're right and that summarizes Thailand and the Democratic party very nicely.

Never mind the second part.

[Alwyn]

Could this be the voice of reason at last?

[Baerboxer]

What does he think this is Big Brother or something?

He is powerless, Mark. Useless loser .

Maybe you should ask who the hell Thaksin thinks he is? What right as a convicted criminal fugitive fraudster, a fugitive with 15 serious outstanding charges waiting for his return, got to speak to economic advisers or anyone for that matter on help for Thailand? He isn't a member of the caretaker government, hasn't be elected or appointed to any position and is responsible for this current shoddy mess. His clumsy attempt to secure a whitewash for his crimes and charges and place himself and family above the law sparked this all off.

Just shows what a complete joke Thailand has become and exposes the myth that he has nothing to do with running the country yet again. Yingluck has no power and no one believes her anymore. Thaksin will do anything to get the power he craves so no one trusts him (which he's shown them to be right over and over again).

Abhisit may have his share of flaws but he's still a better bet for leading Thailand to real reforms than the egotistical megalomaniac or his actress intellectually challenged sister.

[ginjag]

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Chavanond stressed that Abhisit is not doing this in order to seek any political gains but for the good of the country.

This is the first lie here.

He said the reason Abhisit is seeking a live broadcast of the meetings is so that there would be no distortions about what transpired during the meeting

Second lie. Why isn't is other meeting broadcast. Plus why does he need someone to speak on his behalf.

Chavanond denied that a remark on Friday by Suthep Thaugsuban, leader of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), telling mediators not to poke their nose in the matter, was meant as a snub to Abhisit as interpreted by some. He clarified that Abhisit was not a mediator, but was only seeking an end to the crisis.

Third lie. He was referring to Abhisit. No doubt about it.

"I may not succeed, but I will definitely not cause damage to the country and the people who love this country," tweeted Abhisit.

4th lie. He has already caused damage to the country by boycotting the 2 Feb elections.

what a crock of .......... and why would Abhisit need any one else to speak on his behalf..? and what "other" meeting are you on about..? and what evidence does your little mind have to know Suthep was talking about Abhisit.. hahaha

The truth really bother you Suthep supporters. So much you have to try and insult people who see things in a different light. Try coming out behind your computer and tell someone these same comments and you would get your ass kicked.

How many times does this have to be spelled out.

Anti-Thaksin does not mean Pro-Suthep.

Never has.

Thad, to this 10 strong hardcore extra pro government supporters on TVF, inform 1,000 times they are not interested, Only post mostly on government topics, have little interest in other topics----criticize PTP and they are in the library to throw every book they see. Denial recurring.

[metisdead]

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[phutoie2]

Maybe you should ask who the hell Thaksin thinks he is? What right as a convicted criminal fugitive fraudster, a fugitive with 15 serious outstanding charges waiting for his return, got to speak to economic advisers or anyone for that matter on help for Thailand? He isn't a member of the caretaker government, hasn't be elected or appointed to any position and is responsible for this current shoddy mess. His clumsy attempt to secure a whitewash for his crimes and charges and place himself and family above the law sparked this all off.

Just shows what a complete joke Thailand has become and exposes the myth that he has nothing to do with running the country yet again. Yingluck has no power and no one believes her anymore. Thaksin will do anything to get the power he craves so no one trusts him (which he's shown them to be right over and over again).

Abhisit may have his share of flaws but he's still a better bet for leading Thailand to real reforms than the egotistical megalomaniac or his actress intellectually challenged sister.

How many more times do we have to read this familiar tripe here. Clearly you have been out in the sun too long today.

Go and have a lie down in a dark cool room. The panda up in Chiang Mai zoo has more chance of leading this country than old chubby chops Mark. If TS is such a nobody how come he wasn't off our TV screens all last week. Oh and get an avatar jobby, over 4000 posts, worrying.

[ginjag]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

You are talking about Thaksin aren't you ??

[mikemac]

To make it real interesting, fill Chalerm up with ear medicine and send him along to debate Abhisit. I would pay money to see that.

[WhizBang]

Highly unlikely these 'talks' will actually take place, especially not on live TV.

Yingluck couldn't answer any question without first having the answer given to her, and Thaksin's denial that he is in control of the governemnt would not fly for long as YL would be constantly looking to him for answers to the questions/topics under discussion. In fact, it is quite unlikely she would say anything as Thaksin would do all the talking for her.

Everyone would see what a control freak Thaksin is and what a useless airhead YL is. Transparancy is not something Thaksin wants as it will just expose him for what he is.

[bigbamboo]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

Whether you like him or not Thaksin is the de facto Prime Minister of Thailand. If anything it is Yingluck who is irrelevant

Yep, I'm sure you're right and that summarizes Thailand and the Democratic party very nicely.

Never mind the second part.

Sums up Thaksin's view as well. As he said himself he is willing to sacrifice the political carreers of any of his family if necessary.

[Artisi]

Highly unlikely these 'talks' will actually take place, especially not on live TV.

Yingluck couldn't answer any question without first having the answer given to her, and Thaksin's denial that he is in control of the governemnt would not fly for long as YL would be constantly looking to him for answers to the questions/topics under discussion. In fact, it is quite unlikely she would say anything as Thaksin would do all the talking for her.

Everyone would see what a control freak Thaksin is and what a useless airhead YL is. Transparancy is not something Thaksin wants as it will just expose him for what he is.

It would seem that the people of Thailand (including many of his beloved red-shirts) are slowly starting to realise what Thaksin is already - no need for any further exposure on TV.

[gabruce]

I guess that this means that Thaksin and Yingluck are ready and happy to meet with Abhisit in a televised meeting. I don't believe it, but that's what they appear to have said. Meeting with them will be easier than meeting with Suthep.

I'm actually just waiting for them to refuse to meet with Abhisit on TV.

[gabruce]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

I'm guessing you've never lived in a Democratic country before. It's common to have an opposition party. In this case it's the Democrats. There are two major political parties in Thailand at the moment, PTP and Democrat. Which would win an election right now is a tossup (no matter what anyone says, the election outcome is not guaranteed. No one knows for sure.). They are significant.

[opalred]

had a littlef respect for this bloke as though he had a brain now wants to get on bandwagon with shins maybe they have told him will buy a house and money to holiday in virgin islands what a turncoat cheers

[ginjag]

had a littlef respect for this bloke as though he had a brain now wants to get on bandwagon with shins maybe they have told him will buy a house and money to holiday in virgin islands what a turncoat cheers

A well thought out post, best of the day-- NOT, that Laos whiskey is stronger than you think.

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The important thing is that Abhisit is embracing dialog in which the people can observe and consider. As it would be great for the country, expect Yingluck and Thaksin to run from the offer as quickly as possible.

and so will Kamnam Suthep. Suthep knows with a real election he would be finish

[ginjag]

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The important thing is that Abhisit is embracing dialog in which the people can observe and consider. As it would be great for the country, expect Yingluck and Thaksin to run from the offer as quickly as possible.

and so will Kamnam Suthep. Suthep knows with a real election he would be finish

He will not be in the running, he could well be in court with the rest of the PTP government. you have some shocks coming your way.

[Stan7444]

Chavanond stressed that Abhisit is not doing this in order to seek any political gains but for the good of the country.

This is the first lie here.

He said the reason Abhisit is seeking a live broadcast of the meetings is so that there would be no distortions about what transpired during the meeting

Second lie. Why isn't is other meeting broadcast. Plus why does he need someone to speak on his behalf.

Chavanond denied that a remark on Friday by Suthep Thaugsuban, leader of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), telling mediators not to poke their nose in the matter, was meant as a snub to Abhisit as interpreted by some. He clarified that Abhisit was not a mediator, but was only seeking an end to the crisis.

Third lie. He was referring to Abhisit. No doubt about it.

"I may not succeed, but I will definitely not cause damage to the country and the people who love this country," tweeted Abhisit.

4th lie. He has already caused damage to the country by boycotting the 2 Feb elections.

"He clarified that Abhisit was not a mediator, but was only seeking an end to the crisis." The pure definition of a "mediator" is the coming between two or more parties to mediator a resolution. Is this a misprint by The Nation, lost in translation, or just pure BS? Call a spade a spade please.

On a side note, Abhisit has never accomplished anything in his life other than graduating from some prestige UK university. While PM he did nothing except pursue Thaksin. No new treaties, no trade deals with EU or US, or China, et al. No settlement of the Cambodian issue over the temple, No improvement of relations with Burma or any other country, etc. etc. Name one thing he ever did for Thailand please. He was never chosen by the people as their leader, is now charged with murder for the 2010 "peaceful" demonstrations (if the PDRC is peaceful why not call the 2010 events peaceful as well?).

BTW what ever happened to the Criminal Court pursuing the case against both Abhisit and his crony Suthep? Did they both receive a "get out of jail card"? Why does The Nation or BKK Post (that other paper) not print any updates on the status of these cases. Why don't they provide an update on the arrest of those involved with capturing, tying up and then throwing into the river an innocent man with on of the PDRC leaders refusing to give himself up and probably protected by PDRC guards? Instead, they only print like "the fugitive former Premier" 100 times over and over again. I think we all know about the past and the media do not need to waste white space in the newspaper to repeat and repeat and repeat "old" news.

One recent article stated that the media needs to be "reformed" as well so they only report on positive things and now get people upset. Maybe the media needs to go back to school to learn about "journalism" and the true meaning of independent and investigative reporting. They could close The Nation and BKK Post tomorrow and they would never be missed with such low class work.

[marstons]

They could always hold an election and Mark tell his party to take part, not close polling stations, send the mob home and make a statement to the fact he will respect the out come of the peoples choice of the next government, called Democracy been around along time in our own countries.

Best debate they could have.

[janpharma]

Go for it Abhisit!!! Please....

[55Jay]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

You are talking about Thaksin aren't you ??

Thaksin is well known to be pulling all the strings in this country, so obviously I wasn't talking about him.

If you were the (CT) PM in this circumstance, would you agree to have publicly aired meeting/discussion with Suthep or Abhisit ?

[55Jay]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

Whether you like him or not Thaksin is the de facto Prime Minister of Thailand. If anything it is Yingluck who is irrelevant

Yep, I'm sure you're right and that summarizes Thailand and the Democratic party very nicely.

Never mind the second part.

Sums up Thaksin's view as well. As he said himself he is willing to sacrifice the political carreers of any of his family if necessary.

Great point. Both of them do appear to be self-serving.

[55Jay]

He's not a relevant part of government and has no authority or position to do or say much of anything really, so YL is correct by not responding to or even acknowledging him and his silly tweets.

If you were the PM under fire, and one of the primary figures who had been grassing you up in public for months, suddenly turned around and said they wanted to "help", what would you do?

I'm guessing you've never lived in a Democratic country before. It's common to have an opposition party. In this case it's the Democrats. There are two major political parties in Thailand at the moment, PTP and Democrat. Which would win an election right now is a tossup (no matter what anyone says, the election outcome is not guaranteed. No one knows for sure.). They are significant.

Thanks, Bruce. Pretty edgy stuff you are putting out here.

If you were in Yingluck's position, would you agree to have a televised meeting?

[Torrens54]

Love the idea and just to make it more interesting.... Do it Live, as suggested and in ENGLISH....that would separate the Sheep from the Goats!

[outsider]

Doubt it would work. It would only be Abhisit and Thaksin talking.

[Thaddeus]

They could always hold an election and Mark tell his party to take part, not close polling stations, send the mob home and make a statement to the fact he will respect the out come of the peoples choice of the next government, called Democracy been around along time in our own countries.

Best debate they could have.

They could always hold an election were every candidate is allowed to campaign in any province without the fear of threats or intimidation, sometimes death.

That would be good wouldn't it, I'd respect that.

[diehard60]

I have watched Abhisit come up through the ranks for 23 years now. He does have th potential to be an outstanding PM but it is his parteners that are killing his chances. This is a good idea of his but i know suthep will hate it and him even more as suthep wants a dictatorship with himself as the supreme commander of Thailand.