Thailand's army invokes martial law: military TV

[ATF]

Apparently a huge consignment of Red Shirt arms was seized last night at Lad Phrao. No other info now. This is not a rumor.

Edited May 20, 2014 by ATF

[inutil]

Your first word (apparently) belies your claim that 'this is not a rumour' you realise

[ATF]

Your first word (apparently) belies your claim that 'this is not a rumour' you realise

It has not been "officially" reported yet.

[geriatrickid]

To all Expats just relax let the military do it's job stay away from trouble spots, and be respectful you will be fine But act like Satish you might be shot. Moving on not changing plans flying in July, Save me some Phad Thai Gai.

Will Robert Amsterdam be shot too?

No, as he is untouchable. Any foreign agency or entity that threatens Mr. Amsterdam will have to answer to a few foreign countries. Despite what some in tvf think, he is held in high regard by the EU HRC, the US State Department and Foreign Affairs Canada.

[kap]

LOS is like a big pus-filled boil in dire need of a good lancing...and I don't think that this marshal law will do the trick....just sayin'

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I often wonder why people put ......just saying at the end of their post, we know your saying or writing

"Flippant" ...now you know.

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just saying Urban Dictionary.

a phrase used to indicate that we refuse to defend a claim we've made---in other words, that we refuse to offer reasons that what we've said is true.

The very first item in the urban dictionary is:

"a term coined to be used at the end of something insulting or offensive to take the heat off you when you say it."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=just+sayin%27&page=2

I guess you missed that one...duh!

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[raybal5]

...... my hat is off to him!

It looks more like a turban to me.

[tigermonkey]

Hmmm .. Apparently 10 satellite television stations have been shut down including Bluesky ( Pdrc) and Asia Update ( Red Shirt ) and this is true. However, Bluesky Backup is still going strong - I was just watching, on my lunch break, some Thai in a pale blue shirt reading a speech, advocating seeking out the acting Ministers and "neutralizing" them.

Edited May 20, 2014 by tigermonkey

[DrTuner]

Allright. They should have this thing over with in about a month now then. About the time.

[kimamey]

Where is the Royal Proclamation?

The Thai Military and Monarchy has no duty or obligation to provide you with anything. Keep taking the Delusions of Grandeur pills!

This isn't about me. It's the law. Martial Law can only be enacted by Royal proclamation, and the Royal Proclamation hasn't been published has it?

This is rather unusual.

I wouldn't expect you to pick up on a detail like that as it requires some knowledge of Thailand.

I want sure if a Royal Proclamation was needed but since one is required to end martial law then I assumed it was. I don't have a real problem with the martial law although we don't know all the implications yet but there must be a legal minefield ahead if this has been done in the wrong way. Even simple things get tied up in courts here which don't seem to have the capacity to cope with so many cases so martial law that could be challenged in the courts isn't going to help.

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[Basil B]

Where is the Royal Proclamation?

The Thai Military and Monarchy has no duty or obligation to provide you with anything. Keep taking the Delusions of Grandeur pills!

This isn't about me. It's the law. Martial Law can only be enacted by Royal proclamation, and the Royal Proclamation hasn't been published has it?

This is rather unusual.

I wouldn't expect you to pick up on a detail like that as it requires some knowledge of Thailand.

I do not think this would have happen without some sort of approval from...

[pookiki]

...... my hat is off to him!

It looks more like a turban to me.

Yeah, you're right. It let's me unwind at the end of the day. OK, my turban is off to him!

[wileycoyote]

Hopefully ,this will focus opposing groups that there has to be a long term reconciliation

[boomerangutang]

A top influential person in Thailand has said several times; "If Thailand does not adhere to the rule of law, it will become a failed state."

My question: At what point can one point a finger and say, 'There's a failed state' ?

Granted, it's not quite anarchy right now, but there are deep social rifts, and no government. That would pretty much qualify as a 'failed state.'

[thaifoolishness]

head reports on what he can from the ground in bangkok. might get the odd fact wrong here and there but then that depends on what information he's got to work with - which over here can often be muddled.

those who think that jonathan head is somehow pro-shinawatra in his reporting - to what end? what's in it for him and what the hell is in it for the bbc to pick sides in thailand? it's mental thought process this.

What's in it for him is access. If he is critical they won't meet him. Simple.

[Soutpeel]

Capo has been dissolved? lots of updates on Richard Barrows twitter feed btw.

Hopefully an official announcement will be made that Chalerm and Tarit have also been dissolved.

If CAPO has been dissolved does it mean Chalerm will now have to drink on his own time and his own bin ?

Can't wait for him and Tarit to threaten the army.

He might even cut his own head off as promised, one can only hope

[Jack Mountain]

The BBC has very high and exacting standards which are monitored very closely.

.

Like Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall?

Now then now then.

BBC stands for 'Big Bullsh$t Corporation', but i like their nature/science documentaries though ...

[pedro01]

Apparently a huge consignment of Red Shirt arms was seized last night at Lad Phrao. No other info now. This is not a rumor.

Do you have a link? PM if it's from the other paper...

[mrtoad]

Where is the Royal Proclamation?

The Thai Military and Monarchy has no duty or obligation to provide you with anything. Keep taking the Delusions of Grandeur pills!

This isn't about me. It's the law. Martial Law can only be enacted by Royal proclamation, and the Royal Proclamation hasn't been published has it?

This is rather unusual.

I wouldn't expect you to pick up on a detail like that as it requires some knowledge of Thailand.

Appears there is a 1914 law that they have used.

[ATF]

Apparently a huge consignment of Red Shirt arms was seized last night at Lad Phrao. No other info now. This is not a rumor.

Do you have a link? PM if it's from the other paper...

It's on one of the Thai News Channels online. Hundreds of weapons seized at Imperial Lad Phrao.

Edited May 20, 2014 by ATF

[Soutpeel]

Hopefully ,this will focus opposing groups that there has to be a long term reconciliation

Lets face it, irrespective of the side of the political fence you sit on, if things were left to carry on the way they were going, one suspects there would have been bloodshed between opposing "forces" ...so one suspects the best thing that could have happened at this juncture is the Military to step in to serve as a buffer between "warring parties"

Now to me the only question is, is one or both of the aggrieved parties daft enough to try and take on the Military to prove a point ?

[Piichai]

I think there must be some deluded PDRC supporters around............. Martial Law is all about stopping the PDRC and fake monk from doing any more damage to the country, and they think its about a couple of rifles in someones car.........

Then why did Prayuth dissolve CAPO? If Prayuth's goal was hinder PDRC, Prayuth would have helped CAPO, not dissolved them.

[Gweiloman]

This was always going to happen. Thaksin did not cede a single thing to the protests : even the dissolving of Parliament was intended to get them a fresh mandate to justify ignoring everybody. Everything is due to his ego and stubbornness not to back down to anybody.

We can only hope now that the army will force some politcal reform which prevent such corruption as we have seen from Pheu Thai and the police - then hold full and free elections as soon as possible. Prayuth seems to be a good man : I suppose now we are going to find out for sure if he is or not.

As a farang, this move makes me more confident in the future of Thailand, not less.

"We can only hope now that the army will force some politcal reform which prevent such corruption as we have seen from Pheu Thai and the police - then hold full and free elections as soon as possible"

And when full and free elections are held, who do you think will win (again)?

[allanos]

A National Constitution is fundamental for any country requiring stability and good governance. I am astonished that there would be "vaguely-worded" Clauses in it. It does not bode well for the future, one feels, if certain clauses are open to varying degrees of interpretation.

[casualbiker]

Who has the POWER

so power has not been handed to an unelected leader but taken - does that mean jutaporn is going to call his red army to the streets or is he in jail already

Have Surapong Charlerm and Tarit foregone their 5 star breakfast

I did hear that Surapong, Chalerm and Tharit have been asked to account for all the money that the CAPO spent.

I guess they will be slogging away with their spreadsheets.

Martial Law means that the police now fall under the army. Not sure where Tharit now stands.

That being the case, the army could take the oportunity to remove Thaksin and Chalerm of their police rank and even restructure the police force to a politically neutral entity that actually does it's job.

But who's going to restructure the army into a politically neutral entity?

I don't think too many on here would object to having the army and police banned from political activity - including having their pensions stopped.

If that were to happen. How would we have ANY politicians in Thailand as they seem to HAVE to have done military / police service. ... isn't that right GK?

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[SABloke]

Idiotic - martial law all over the country!

There is only a small group of trouble makers in Bangkok! And they are obviously not able / willing to handle them!

Declare martial law in Bangkok and send Suthep where he belongs to in a prison cell!

Great message to send out to the world we can not handle a bunch of loonies roaming around in Bangkok so we declare martial law all over the country!

Next thing is of course the military will ask for a "special budget" of billions to cover their "expenses" to enforce martial law hahaha!

So now political gatherings of more than 5 people are outlawed does Suthep care? - of course not!

Will the military in force the law? Of course not!

Back to square one - after sending the message to the world that we are to stupid to handle a bunch of demonstrators!

Put the criminal Suthep in prison and hold elections!

That was Capo 'n Cres asking for billions - the police even got bonusses for doing their normal assigned jobs.

[BSJ]

Thank the gods in heaven Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha has taken charge of a hopeless situation. All the hot heads can cool down for a while.

[John1thru10]

Right - this is a PERFECT and completely RATIONAL time to tackle the most urgent part of all of this, over the last week: 1% unemployment in Thailand.

Not that anyone here had need to remember (or even understand in the first place) that historically the Royalists are pro-foreigner and that the red shirt government has been against foreigners. Was there no obvious connection for many posters here, that Visa restrictions started first tightening the day Shinawatra took office? No, that couldn't indicate anything, could it.

Ridiculously far flung ideas like that major poltical turmoil would play ANY part of a visa-crackdown, imposed by the officer who then took control of immigration, just 48 hours after Shinwatra was forced to flee office? No connection for some of you, at all? Because most of you here have been writing that it's only 'about time they did this', and arguing about the 'massive problem of people stealing Thai jobs'...or no wait, 'just the general idea of foreigners milking the system'. I mean, it couldn't have been an act of defiance against the Royalists by the officer who took control of immigration, could it? That couldn't be indicated by the idea that it didn't make much sense for it's stated goal, could it?

No: It's all about those pesky back-packers who are 'destroying Thailand by stealing jobs', right? It's the 'principle of the thing', sure. Oh no wait - the Koreans! That's what it's about - and get everyone else without explanation, too. Or wait no - it's the Russians! Yeah, that's it: it's those Russians!

No doubt some of you will write immediately: "What the point of your mindless rambling?", which will prove that they actually do know nothing about Thailand and what's happening around you.

[Neeranam]

Hmmm .. Apparently 10 satellite television stations have been shut down including Bluesky ( Pdrc) and Asia Update ( Red Shirt ) and this is true. However, Bluesky Backup is still going strong - I was just watching, on my lunch break, some Thai in a pale blue shirt reading a speech, advocating seeking out the acting Ministers and "neutralizing" them.

What do you mean some Thai? Are there usually any other nationalities involved?

Sounds rather racist to me.

[Neeranam]

Right - this is a PERFECT and completely RATIONAL time to tackle the most urgent part of all of this, over the last week: 1% unemployment in Thailand.

Not that anyone here had need to remember (or even understand in the first place) that historically the Royalists are pro-foreigner and that the red shirt government has been against foreigners. Was there no obvious connection for many posters here, that Visa restrictions started first tightening the day Shinawatra took office? No, that couldn't indicate anything, could it.

Ridiculously far flung ideas like that major poltical turmoil would play ANY part of a visa-crackdown, imposed by the officer who then took control of immigration, just 48 hours after Shinwatra was forced to flee office? No connection for some of you, at all? Because most of you here have been writing that it's only 'about time they did this', and arguing about the 'massive problem of people stealing Thai jobs'...or no wait, 'just the general idea of foreigners milking the system'. I mean, it couldn't have been an act of defiance against the Royalists by the officer who took control of immigration, could it? That couldn't be indicated by the idea that it didn't make much sense for it's stated goal, could it?

No: It's all about those pesky back-packers who are 'destroying Thailand by stealing jobs', right? It's the 'principle of the thing', sure. Oh no wait - the Koreans! That's what it's about - and get everyone else without explanation, too. Or wait no - it's the Russians! Yeah, that's it: it's those Russians!

No doubt some of you will write immediately: "What the point of your mindless rambling?", which will prove that they actually do know nothing about Thailand and what's happening around you.

Rambling it looks to me - although I remember some of the things you say AND understand. Just because there are a few idiots here doesn't mean that all are.

How much were visas before Taxsin came to power - 500 baht? Up to 1900 baht.

How much was a Permenent Residency - 9000? up to 90,000 baht.

Surely no foreigner here is stupid enough to back the red shirts??

[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

Excellent news as Thaksin's police troups are obviously not interested in guaranteeing security for non-believers.