New Acting Pattaya Police Chief “lays down the law” to his officers

[joshstiles]

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I am like SAINT THOMAS , I only believe what I can see with my own eyes .... so let see and hope ....

Only catholics believe in ordained sainthood. We are all saints according to the christian bible.

Thomas was referred to as Doubting Thomas.

[leggo]

New Acting Pattaya Police Chief “lays down the law” to his officers

PATTAYA:--A meeting was held at Pattaya City Hall on Wednesday afternoon by the acting Pattaya Police Chief who denounced his predecessor and claimed that corruption and other bad practices was a thing of the past at Pattaya Police Station.

The new acting Superintendent is Police Colonel Supatree, who is also the Deputy Commander of Chonburi Provincial Police. Because of his good record of solving crimes and working within the confines of the Law, he was assigned to the position by the Acting Region 2 Police Commissioner.

The Colonel explained that the previous team of senior officers at Pattaya Police station were corrupt and did not provide the standard of service expected by a Police Officer. Police Colonel Supatree is determined to focus on offering a professional service with a special focus on Tourists who require Police assistance.

Tourist-related cases will be dealt with quicker and in a more professional manner from now on and any officer suspected of being involved in corrupt activities of any kind will be investigated and could ultimately be fired.

- See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/130492/new-acting-pattaya-police-chief-lays-down-the-law-to-his-officers/#sthash.qib3vb4P.dpuf

-- Pattaya One 2014-06-05

Goodness me - how harsh is Thailand on it's police officers"you can actually be fired for being corrupt!"

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[thaicookingchef]

"...any officer suspected of being involved in corrupt activities of any kind will be investigated and could ultimately be fired."

How about prosecuted and jailed.

How about immediately fired

How about SHOT on the spot ?

[ronrat]

How about the lucrative business of raiding card games and "fining" everyone all the money in their possession or they go to jail.

[Mudcrab]

All this information is coming out from a military controlled media, proof will be in the pudding but would have more credibility if it were coming from a free press with proof. Right now the Junta can post what it like. I doubt very much jet ski scams have been stopped and would take a guess the taxi mafia in Phuket are as bad today as they were last week.

More chance of king Canute turning back the tide

Why not walk outside an take look? You are in Thailand???

Didn"t think so - hows the one bedroom squat in Bermingham these days?

Another burnt out union organiser who can't deal with the fact that the Berlin Wall came down thirty years ago and continues to hang on to every word Putin says to give their life some relevance while sucking on the teat of what is left of the socialist state of the UK.

[movsrus]

-A meeting was held at Pattaya City Hall on Wednesday afternoon by the acting Pattaya Police Chief who denounced his predecessor and claimed that corruption and other bad practices was a thing of the past at Pattaya Police Station.

Yeah, pass the crack pipe. TIT

[Pattaya46]

How about the lucrative business of raiding card games and "fining" everyone all the money in their possession or they go to jail.

Would be very difficult with journalists now always presents

with the police to follow/report this kind of event...

Edited June 5, 2014 by Pattaya46

[slygeeza]

would somebody post a link to the law that says prostitution is illegal in Thailand?

[Pattaya46]

would somebody post a link to the law that says prostitution is illegal in Thailand?

No such law. There are laws about prostitution in public places,

but exemptions for bars, agogos, discos, night clubs...

[slygeeza]

would somebody post a link to the law that says prostitution is illegal in Thailand?

No such law. There are laws about prostitution in public places,

but exemptions for bars, agogos, discos, night clubs...

yes, I believe there are laws against soliciting, loitering and underage prostitution but that there is a law against prostitution is a farang myth that gets repeated endlessly on forums like this.

Edited June 5, 2014 by slygeeza

[7Heaven]

would somebody post a link to the law that says prostitution is illegal in Thailand?

No such law. There are laws about prostitution in public places,

but exemptions for bars, agogos, discos, night clubs...

Prostitution had been illegal in Thailand^[3] since 1960, when a law was passed under pressure from the United Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand

[Bignose]

My goodness will you lot never be happy? You have whinged and complained about almost every facet of life in Thailand, now that there is a government (albeit with uniforms) who are making a difference you still complain!!!

The intervention by the military has been a great advance for the country, almost immediately the down trodden and much maligned farmers have been paid. We have the ineffectual law enforcement agencies being put on notice that their inaction and corruption will no longer be tolerated!!!

Steps are being taken to interview and cleanse the political elite!!!

More has been done in a few short weeks than has been possible in years, do you really think that ALL the ills of this country will be identified and rectified in a short time?

The potential for this country can be huge, all it needs is a steady hand at the helm and a devotion and appreciation to/of the entire population, irrespective of political views. The present government have no allegiances to either side of the political fence and will answer only to the Monarch, this in my humble opinion is exactly what this country needs. The population and economy, can no longer suffer the self serving, ineffectual and corrupt governments of the past.

I for one will be happy to sit back and watch this country move forward, I honestly believe future generations will look back at this time as the dawn of a new era, for all Thai's.

[tezzainoz]

So why was a tourist friend of mine "fined" 600 baht yesterday while riding his motorbike ,if this is a crackdown it aint working.

Your posting is full of holes

Unless we know all the fact of why was he fined

In the west he would be racing to the bank if he got such a small fine

[Pattaya28]

When the "Jet-Ski" scam stops, I will begin to have confidence in this new Police Chiefy.

[ppmacready]

Well, for me, few things are really new and promising:

- have you ever heard a new chief accuse his predecessor so blatantly about corruption?

- have you ever heard of so serious road checkpoints where the focus is NOT on tea money, but REALLY clear the streets from druggies and alcoholics?

- have you ever heard so public threads against police officers not helping tourists / extoring money?

Me never for all above...

When it comes to the jet ski Mafia, I would guess it takes few tourist complaining about them and complaining about inaction of the police... I would expect a REAL blow against that Mafia within the next few weeks.

Anybody taking bets?

Uups... forgot this is illegal and will be pursued now...

Corruption is a part of people's mindset here in Thailand and it is taught in schools from primary school to university.

Red shirt, Yellow shirt, Army.

It will make no difference.

Its endemic!

[geezer2]

I'll believe it when the jet ski scams stop on Pattaya Beach.

I think jet ski scams is at the bottom of he's list as he is going straight to the top. stop the top then you stop the bottom feeders ..

[atsiii]

"...any officer suspected of being involved in corrupt activities of any kind will be investigated and could ultimately be fired."

If he is serious, then the correct word is "prosecuted" not "fired."

[marinediscoking]

I did not see any jetski scams today, usually it is still a daily occurrence. Maybe they are waiting to see how things play out for the near future before getting back to it again. One thing I am sure of they don't have enough renters to make a profit now without running the scam.

[MMarlow]

So every Gogo bar and beer bar in Pattaya will be closed now since prostitution is illegal?

Corruption and bribery keeps most Pattaya businesses open. I guess Pattaya is closed now?....

Dancing or working in a go-go bar or beer bar is not prostitution.

I'm aware of that convenient loophole but it goes without saying that the bars are an intentional space to facilitate the meeting of prostitutes with customers. At the very least it is aiding and abetting. Every cop is knowingly allowing a criminal activity to go on by allowing these venues to operate.

Pattaya exists on a foundation of corruption. Without corruption there would be no Pattaya in the form that it takes.

"Every cop is knowingly allowing a criminal activity to go on by allowing these venues to operate."

Go on then, what's the criminal offence that is being committed in these venues? Meeting a prostitute certainly is not an offence and "aiding and abetting", aiding and abetting what?

[MMarlow]

So every Gogo bar and beer bar in Pattaya will be closed now since prostitution is illegal?

Corruption and bribery keeps most Pattaya businesses open. I guess Pattaya is closed now?....

Dancing or working in a go-go bar or beer bar is not prostitution.

You won't find many girls working in those places they do not practice prostitution....

Amazingly, that is exactly why they are there. The big money is in the late night bumpity bump...not in drinks.

Amazingly, the point is that they are not prostituting themselves in the bars, that may or may not happen later.

[MMarlow]

"If your tourist friend didn't want to pay a fine to the officer all he had to do was ask for a ticket which he could then pay at the police station and be given a receipt. As it is, by agreeing to pay a fine at the scene your pal was just as corrupt as the police officer."--MMalow

Hello Earth to MMalow----have you ever actually got a ticket, ?? Do you think you just get back onto your motorbike & say--yes officer I will pay this, the correct amount, down at the station. Too-da-loo........

How do you think you are going to get there MMalow ??----because its not on your motorbike. That stays where you have been stopped, even if its 10 miles from the police station. Make your own way there, and back....yes fighting corruption, It all sounds very good MMalow---to people who have not actually lived in the real world.

Yes, I have had more than one ticket that I have paid at police stations. The way it works is the police take your licence and keep it until you pay the fine at the police station. And regardless of what your uninformed opinion is, yes they do let you drive away. If you don't have a licence and you refuse to pay the unofficial on-the-spot fine you will be arrested. Simple as that, bit like you.

Edited June 5, 2014 by MMarlow

[Ulic]

One thing is for sure there are lots of opportunities to show the current situation can be improved.

I will not hold my breath but I will keep my fingers crossed.

[MaxYakov]

"If your tourist friend didn't want to pay a fine to the officer all he had to do was ask for a ticket which he could then pay at the police station and be given a receipt. As it is, by agreeing to pay a fine at the scene your pal was just as corrupt as the police officer."--MMalow

Hello Earth to MMalow----have you ever actually got a ticket, ?? Do you think you just get back onto your motorbike & say--yes officer I will pay this, the correct amount, down at the station. Too-da-loo........

How do you think you are going to get there MMalow ??----because its not on your motorbike. That stays where you have been stopped, even if its 10 miles from the police station. Make your own way there, and back....yes fighting corruption, It all sounds very good MMalow---to people who have not actually lived in the real world.

Yes, I have had more than one ticket that I have paid at police stations. The way it works is the police take your licence and keep it until you pay the fine at the police station. And regardless of what your uninformed opinion is, yes they do let you drive away. If you don't have a licence and you refuse to pay the unofficial on-the-spot fine you will be arrested. Simple as that, bit like you.

Doesn't sound so simple to me, a casual observer. What happens if you're stopped a second time while you are in the process of paying the fine at the station and you don't have your license? How do you regain possession of your license that you surrendered to the police? What if the officer holding your license doesn't like you or your contributing to his immediate monetary gratification and conveniently forgets or loses your license somehow?

Thankfully, I don't have to worry about these issues because I have never operated a motor vehicle in Thailand and, by the looks of it, never will. I won't even get on a motorbike as a passenger these days and in the distant past I have only as a last resort in a time-critical situation.

[sacra7]

Yeah give a ticket with thai writing on it if I have free time I'll go pay it however i only have a couple day left will be leaving soon or I'll pay it when I come back I promise.

[Jip66]

So why was a tourist friend of mine "fined" 600 baht yesterday while riding his motorbike ,if this is a crackdown it aint working.

200 Baht no valid license, 200 Baht no valid insurance, 200 Baht no crash helmet, 'som nam na' as we say here in Thailand....

[Pattaya46]

would somebody post a link to the law that says prostitution is illegal in Thailand?

No such law. There are laws about prostitution in public places,

but exemptions for bars, agogos, discos, night clubs...

Prostitution had been illegal in Thailand since 1960, when a law was passed under pressure from the United Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand

Hi. Wikipedia certainly is not the reference for Thai laws & justice... General laws are one thing; application perimeters another.

For the Thailand:

On one side there is the "Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, 1996" who forbid prostitution, yes, but only in public places (mainly streets) and in prostitution establishments.

On the other side there is the "Entertainment Places Act, 1966" who exclude all agogos and bars from the definition of prostitution establishments.

For more details, better to see a lawyer... Not simple laws.

[HerbalEd]

So why was a tourist friend of mine "fined" 600 baht yesterday while riding his motorbike ,if this is a crackdown it aint working.

Let me guess. Because he broke the law?

[EyesWideOpen]

The tentacles of the Pattaya police reach into virtually business here. I was amazed to learn

that my condo pays 30,000 baht a year to the police as some sort of implied protection racket..

So a lot of what goes on cannot be seen, and if miraculously the new police chief was able

to stop it, that would not be seen either.

But what WILL be seen is the stopping of the jet ski scam. An ongoing black eye for Pattaya.

Everyone one knows the police are in that up to their necks, yet they have allowed it to go on

years. Clearly the money must be boggling for the police to be able to withstand all the

negative publicity and still yet keep allowing it to happen. As a lot of the victims are from

India, perhaps there will be a big boost in tourism from there once news gets out the jet

ski scam has come to an end.

I never thought I would want to live under military rule, but if Prayuth keeps hitting one

home run after another, I may change my mind. He may turn out to be what Thailand has

been hoping and wishing for, a leader who actually has their interests at heart. For years

the politicians have gotten into office, and start then looting full speed. This is easily proven

by doing an assets search, and then counting up their government salary during their

time in office. Their salary would barely make the payments on the fleet of Mercedes......

And the previous police chief, offering to spend millions of " his money" to fix up the police

station was one of the funniest things I have read in years... " Yeah, I have a mountain

of corruption money, and I am not afraid to spend a little bit of it".... Am pretty sure since all

positions that are at the front of the feed trough have to be bought, I am sure he is having interesting conversations with the people that fronted this money, as he has had the keys to the piggy bank taken away from him. .....

Edited June 6, 2014 by EyesWideOpen

[EyesWideOpen]

Hi. Wikipedia certainly is not the reference for Thai laws & justice... General laws are one thing; application perimeters another.

For the Thailand:

On one side there is the "Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, 1996" who forbid prostitution, yes, but only in public places (mainly streets) and in prostitution establishments.

On the other side there is the "Entertainment Places Act, 1966" who exclude all agogos and bars from the definition of prostitution establishments.

For more details, better to see a lawyer... Not simple laws.

When the water is murky, easy to swim though and not be seen....... The last time

I sort of delved into that, I recall that public soliciting for sex was illegal, but that the actual

act of paying for sex was not illegal. As 90% of the Thai sex trade is for Thai men, and

government employees at all levels seem to be heavy users ( just ask Chuwit about his

customer base.. ), I am pretty sure that is the reason why it is not really illegal.....

[stoli]

So why was a tourist friend of mine "fined" 600 baht yesterday while riding his motorbike ,if this is a crackdown it aint working.

Because he broke the law. Wear a helmet, get a license. As is every country in the world, you are expected to follow the law. It is very easy, unless you choose not to do so. Just don't complain about it when you get caught. Personal responsibility, remember?

Edited June 7, 2014 by stoli