First reports of new overstay crackdown

[Jonathan Fairfield]

ADDITIONAL FORM REQUIRED

Overstay crackdown: First reports from Mukdahan Immigration office

BANGKOK:-- [thaivisa.com] Following on from the news yesterday (Monday 07 July) that all foreigners who overstay in Thailand for more than 90 days will be blacklisted, it seems Immigration officials have wasted no time in putting the new measures into effect.

Today, Thaivisa.com has received a number of reports from foreigners at various Immigration offices throughout Thailand with regards to the issue of overstay.

According to the reports, this is the additional form individuals have to sign when applying for an extension of stay. Therefore, it appears that the new regulations regarding blacklisting due to overstay are already in effect.

One Thaivisa member who visited Mukdahan Immigration Office for his retirement extension, reported that he was asked to sign the form confirming that he was aware of the new rules regarding overstay.

In addition to this, upon completing his retirement extension, he was also asked to mark where his house was on Google maps. The Immigration official then placed a marker on the Google map entry with the individual's name and case number.

-- 2014-07-08

[ubonjoe]

Some off topic posts and replies to it have been removed. Please stay on topic.

Edit: Add a troll post to those.

[Rob8891]

I got my retirement extension on Friday in CM. Not a word from anyone about any of this at the time. 90 day report due date in calendar ?

[KarenBravo]

You have to put your address on the TM7 card. What's the big deal putting it on Google Earth, too?

I don't see it as xenophobia, just enforcing the rules as they are doing in many other areas like taxis, land encroachment and corruption.

[Jingthing]

I got my retirement extension on Friday in CM. Not a word from anyone about any of this at the time. 90 day report due date in calendar ?

Because it is VERY new.

[bill014]

To obtain a Non-Imm "O" visa based on marriage, you've always had to provide a map of your house and photos of yourself and wife outside it, clearly showing the house number. Morons on this site do not read the post properly. LEGAL stay is allowed, OVERSTAY is not. How difficult is this to understand???

[sawati]

When you make an extension of stay being Retirement,Married with thai lady etc.Between the paper work you have to have a map pointing to where is your house.

It have been for ages this requirement

[MrWorldwide]

None of this at Jomtien last week - clearly the ink on this one is still fresh.

[chrisinth]

Providing a map is one thing, to actually put it into Google maps is something that is new.

If you don't understand Google maps, well, you can Google it.

[Soutpeel]

To obtain a Non-Imm "O" visa based on marriage, you've always had to provide a map of your house and photos of yourself and wife outside it, clearly showing the house number. Morons on this site do not read the post properly. LEGAL stay is allowed, OVERSTAY is not. How difficult is this to understand???

All thats changed it seems is this office has gone hi-tech using Google maps

[pinkpanther99]

To obtain a Non-Imm "O" visa based on marriage, you've always had to provide a map of your house and photos of yourself and wife outside it, clearly showing the house number. Morons on this site do not read the post properly. LEGAL stay is allowed, OVERSTAY is not. How difficult is this to understand???

Correct.

Now instead of using a pathetic hand written copy of a map which was all but useless, Immigration are now using Google Maps, it's more modern, efficient and a step in the right direction.

All these crackdowns on overstayers, boarder runs etc, it's all good in my opinion and will only benefit Thailand in the long term.

[Soutpeel]

Providing a map is one thing, to actually put it into Google maps is something that is new.

If you don't understand Google maps, well, you can Google it.

The farang tinfoil hatters will be doing their nut with conspiracy theories right now

[ubonjoe]

Providing a map is one thing, to actually put it into Google maps is something that is new.

If you don't understand Google maps, well, you can Google it.

The farang tinfoil hatters will be doing their nut with conspiracy theories right now

They already have. That is why there are more posts that you cannot see than you can see.

[bifftastic]

Surely the main point here is the form that acknowledges the fact that you understand the new overstay rules rather than which form of map is being used?

[PiPiFFS]

How is this post a report on the crackdown on overstay ? NONE of the people going to immigration had overstay or am I missing something here ?

They were simply asked to indicate where they stayed which isn't new.

Not a single report of someone leaving with overstay and getting blacklisted for the said amount of time then ?

I will wait for the first actual overstay report before I believe the warnings.

[Just1Voice]

When I did my 1st Marriage Extension, I gave them a detailed map I had drawn using Microsoft Publisher. Woman told me it was the best map she'd every seen. Couldn't do Google, as at the time, where I lived wasn't on Google. When I switched to Retirement, they never asked for it.

[MJCM]

To obtain a Non-Imm "O" visa based on marriage, you've always had to provide a map of your house and photos of yourself and wife outside it, clearly showing the house number. Morons on this site do not read the post properly. LEGAL stay is allowed, OVERSTAY is not. How difficult is this to understand???

Correct.

Now instead of using a pathetic hand written copy of a map which was all but useless, Immigration are now using Google Maps, it's more modern, efficient and a step in the right direction.

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When I did my 1st extension of stay (marriage) I wrote the GPS coordinates on the map, the girl asked what is that, I explained it to here and she got a pen and "erased" the coordinates

Sent from my iPad so Please excuse any typos

[Suradit69]

How is this post a report on the crackdown on overstay ? NONE of the people going to immigration had overstay or am I missing something here ?

They were simply asked to indicate where they stayed which isn't new.

Not a single report of someone leaving with overstay and getting blacklisted for the said amount of time then ?

I will wait for the first actual overstay report before I believe the warnings.

"How is this post a report on the crackdown on overstay ?

Since there is a form that (some) applicants for extensions are required to sign, it indicates that people are being given formal notice that the "crackdown" is not just a baseless rumor. Therefore, it's a report about the legitimacy of the things that have been considered speculation on social media recently.

Had it said "reports of people being deported in shackles" then we would have proof that it was being enforced and all the tinfoil hatters would be too busy packing their bags to make trollish posts.

According to the reports, this is the additional form individuals have to sign when applying for an extension of stay.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Suradit69

[samran]

To obtain a Non-Imm "O" visa based on marriage, you've always had to provide a map of your house and photos of yourself and wife outside it, clearly showing the house number. Morons on this site do not read the post properly. LEGAL stay is allowed, OVERSTAY is not. How difficult is this to understand???

Correct.

Now instead of using a pathetic hand written copy of a map which was all but useless, Immigration are now using Google Maps, it's more modern, efficient and a step in the right direction.

All these crackdowns on overstayers, boarder runs etc, it's all good in my opinion and will only benefit Thailand in the long term.

Good I guess. Last year I tried to submit a google maps print out for my wifes extension. Immigration officer asked for a hand drawn one!

[culicine]

It's one thing to warn those who are already extending (already not on overstay), and it's quite another to catch foreigners on long term overstay who are never seen by authorities.

[wump]

Looking at the document: If I had 10 years overstay and I surrendered myself, I would be barred from entering for life. But if I i got apprehended with 10 years overstay then I would only get a 10 year ban?

[dantilley]

Any idea if this Google Maps thing will have to be done when applying for an extension of stay for a Non-Imm-B visa?

[toss]

Don't really get the logic that if you hand yourself in, you can be barred for life

BUT

If you are 'apprehended' you can get a Maximum of 10 years...

[NoBrains]

I never have to draw a map with my non "O"

[DoctorB]

Sorry to go off at a slight tangent guys, and apologies if this has all been covered elsewhere, but here is my question.

I have a retirement extension from Chonburi (Jomtien) and currently report my address in Pattaya. I intend to move to Bangkok soon.

Where do I do my 90 day reporting in future? At the office that issued the visa extension or the nearest office to my new address?

I can cope with either situation, but don't want to make a long treck and then get 'bounced'.

All information/advice gratefully received. Thanks in advance.

[MJCM]

I never have to draw a map with my non "O"

Are you on retirement? If so, its only for extensions for Marriage.

Sent from my iPad so Please excuse any typos

[arisaje]

So what happens if you just overstay for 3 days, due to travel delays or some unforeseen circumstances? Can you still pay 1500 baht fine and re-enter?

Or is a 1 day, or 2 day overstay deemed as a major issue and results in a 1 year ban?

[crazykopite]

When you make an extension of stay being Retirement,Married with thai lady etc.Between the paper work you have to have a map pointing to where is your house.

It have been for ages this requirement

In 8 years of applying for extension of stays I have never been asked to show a picture of my property or a lease agreement or house book or even a map it sounds like every immigration office has its own interpretation to the rules

[Puyai]

What about some of us who have children here without the correct visa, me being one of them? Yes, I know I should of done things properly, but due to unforeseen circumstances we both ended up on tourist visas, him on a visa exempt and me on a single entry, so please no lectures!

I am going to Laos on Monday to get a new Non-B visa along with my sons Non-O. Does anyone think I will have any problems getting him back into the country?

[ubonjoe]

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