oldsailor35 Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 so what will she do when the army goes away and they all begin the trek back to their beach claims.
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2014 "We are not stopping you from earning a living. After this, Patong Municipality will be able to implement new plans for how the beach will be managed and how you can earn a living." -- The easiest way to manage the beach IMHO, is to clear it all. Every chair, umbrella, food vendor, drink vendor, every hut, and jet ski. All of it, everything, and keep it that way. Absolutely agree Shot, these creeps have not the maturity, professionalism or the even the slightest interest in providing a service only in grabbing the cash. Harden up TV posters you all wanted this to happen, now I read sht like '' give them a chance to be good and if we can regulate and if it can be done like this or like that'' forget it they had their chance and their greed blew it for them. Clean beaches forever. 6
stevenl Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 I took the photo, originally posted with The Phuket News article, yesterday afternoon. At that time, many of the beach chair vendors and the jet ski gang were clearing their property from the beach. This morning, I also watched as the soldiers descended on the beach and told those who remained to clear their items. Currently, there are no jet skis in sight on Patong Beach. No jet ski's could also be because of the waves at the moment. I am hoping though they will not be allowed back on when the wind dies down.
cooked Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 so what will she do when the army goes away and they all begin the trek back to their beach claims. Do you really think that the army would stand for that? Nothing has been confiscated yet,
oldsailor35 Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Thousands of people visit Aus every year, no loungers etc.... no worries. And the beaches are super clean. The sand filtering tractor runs up and down the beach every morning before the bathers arrive, filtering and taking away everything incuding cig butts and bottle tops. Beautiful !
oldsailor35 Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 I took the photo, originally posted with The Phuket News article, yesterday afternoon. At that time, many of the beach chair vendors and the jet ski gang were clearing their property from the beach. This morning, I also watched as the soldiers descended on the beach and told those who remained to clear their items. Currently, there are no jet skis in sight on Patong Beach. Dont worry, they are al mounted on trailers with wheels !
oldsailor35 Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) so what will she do when the army goes away and they all begin the trek back to their beach claims. Do you really think that the army would stand for that? Nothing has been confiscated yet, I certainly hope you are right, but this is Thailand ! It will be nice to see "Cheap jet skis for sale at the newly formed "Army Disposals" Edited July 9, 2014 by oldsailor35
amyb Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 I took the photo, originally posted with The Phuket News article, yesterday afternoon. At that time, many of the beach chair vendors and the jet ski gang were clearing their property from the beach. This morning, I also watched as the soldiers descended on the beach and told those who remained to clear their items. Currently, there are no jet skis in sight on Patong Beach. No jet ski's could also be because of the waves at the moment. I am hoping though they will not be allowed back on when the wind dies down. The jet skis were operating until about 4pm yesterday afternoon - the gang was out and about, and so were a lot of Chinese tourists. Just after 4pm, a bunch of taxi guys started running up and down the beach and telling everyone that the army was coming, and that is when everyone started clearing their stuff up. The jet ski gang was about this morning when the officials and soldiers came to the beach, but again, there were no jet skis in sight. 2
LivinginKata Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 so what will she do when the army goes away and they all begin the trek back to their beach claims.Do you really think that the army would stand for that? Nothing has been confiscated yet, I have no doubt that all the vendors expect this will blow over and by high season it will be to business as usual. I well member after the tsunami that we were all told the the vehicle rental guys would not be allowed to command all the public car parking bays. That lasted nearly a month then back to normal. 1
stevenl Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 so what will she do when the army goes away and they all begin the trek back to their beach claims.Do you really think that the army would stand for that? Nothing has been confiscated yet, I have no doubt that all the vendors expect this will blow over and by high season it will be to business as usual. I well member after the tsunami that we were all told the the vehicle rental guys would not be allowed to command all the public car parking bays. That lasted nearly a month then back to normal. Yes, I'm sure that's what most of them are thinking/hoping. I am thinking/hoping though they are wrong, and with the army going as far as they are going at the moment, and from what I hear and see, I really believe the army will implement measures to make sure it won't return the the lawless place it seemed to be. 2
Popular Post cottonpusher Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2014 So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. 6
patongphil Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 I suspect there could be a few students less at the "international" schools shortly, now that many of the children's parents are about to be deprived of their sources of "income" 1
monkeycountry Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 I am sure they will all be back as soon as the army loses interest, but if the army did indeed want to keep the beach void of jetskis, beach chairs, umbrellas etc., all they have to do is have a small group of maybe 5-6 soldiers patrol up and down the beach a few times each day arresting anyone setting up shop, and confiscating all the beach chairs, umbrellas and jetskis. This would have to be permanent, but would cost the army, and the country almost nothing. Sure, mobile beach vendors would navigate the patrols, but the jetski and beach chair/umbrella people cannot just run away as it takes time to remove their equipment, so they would no longer be around. The generals in Bangkok can make sure their patrols are not just taking bribes to look the other way, by installing a couple of cctv cameras along the beach, to keep an eye on what is going on, and whether umbrellas and jetskis suddenly start to line up the beach again. This would add to the general security effort, or lack thereof, as well.
KarenBravo Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 This is a huge mistake. I know 100s of people who come to Patong every year for 3 weeks to 3 months (or more). Maybe they can live without the chairs (although I doubt it) but they absolutely need umbrellas. The lounge and umbrella vendors clean the beach (yes they do). Who will do that now? You don't think a bunch of Thais will go into the beach umbrella rental business? I'll take a guess that the present owners of beach umbrellas will finally figure this out.
Popular Post Jimi007 Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2014 So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. Bring your own umbrella and chairs, no problem or find some shade under a tree. Geez, deprived? Really? There are many countries in this world that don't allow private businesses on public land and I'm glad the Thai army is finally enforcing the law here. From what I've read, there is a law in the works that will ban beach loungers from Phuket beaches permanently and I'm all for it! They have a similar law in Krabi. Go army! 3
Dap Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Is heavily armed marines strolling down the beach at one of Thailand's most visited tourist destinations the image it wants to convey to prospective tourists? And this too shall end Go git em ... guns and all. Nice to see those beach jerks runnin'. Seems a bit o' their own intimidation coming back to bite em on the as*. 1
Dap Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 so what will she do when the army goes away and they all begin the trek back to their beach claims.Do you really think that the army would stand for that? Nothing has been confiscated yet, I have no doubt that all the vendors expect this will blow over and by high season it will be to business as usual. I well member after the tsunami that we were all told the the vehicle rental guys would not be allowed to command all the public car parking bays. That lasted nearly a month then back to normal. I can only hope 1
gwynt Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Thousands of people visit Aus every year, no loungers etc.... no worries. And the beaches are super clean. The sand filtering tractor runs up and down the beach every morning before the bathers arrive, filtering and taking away everything incuding cig butts and bottle tops. Beautiful ! That used to happen on Patong years ago, they also used to have tanker lorries washing down the street early hour of the morning.
LivinginKata Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Thousands of people visit Aus every year, no loungers etc.... no worries. And the beaches are super clean. The sand filtering tractor runs up and down the beach every morning before the bathers arrive, filtering and taking away everything incuding cig butts and bottle tops. Beautiful ! That used to happen on Patong years ago, they also used to have tanker lorries washing down the street early hour of the morning. Yes, I remember many many years ago the Patong Municipality announced in a local paper with great fanfare the purchase of their sand filter tractor. Never saw it working, was always parked at garbage truck depot next to the sewage plant.
klfopera Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. This is absolutely correct. All you people who complain about the "greedy" "lawless" locals who work on the beach: Do you actually go to the beach? Do you know these people? I am on the beach 150 days or more a year. I am honored to know these these folks who treat me well.
inzman Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. This is absolutely correct. All you people who complain about the "greedy" "lawless" locals who work on the beach: Do you actually go to the beach? Do you know these people? I am on the beach 150 days or more a year. I am honored to know these these folks who treat me well. Dude your a freak. They are scammers from issan and can be very nasty.
stevenl Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. This is absolutely correct. All you people who complain about the "greedy" "lawless" locals who work on the beach: Do you actually go to the beach? Do you know these people? I am on the beach 150 days or more a year. I am honored to know these these folks who treat me well.Dude your a freak. They are scammers from issan and can be very nasty. Most of them are simply people trying to make a living, and are friendly and honest. 2
Benmart Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 only taken 30 years...i guarentee they will be back.......................... (AFTER LOW SEASON HAS FINNISHED )I envy those who can foresee the future. Please tell how my investments will do later this year.Complaints of the past. Complaints of the present. Complaints into the future. Truely a complaint driven outlook on life perhaps.
klfopera Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. This is absolutely correct. All you people who complain about the "greedy" "lawless" locals who work on the beach: Do you actually go to the beach? Do you know these people? I am on the beach 150 days or more a year. I am honored to know these these folks who treat me well.Dude your a freak. They are scammers from issan and can be very nasty. This is a perfect example of the quality of discussion on this forum. I suppose 15 years of going to the beach doesn't count for anything? I suppose knowing their families means nothing? I am talking about the beach chair vendors. I am not talking about the jet ski people.
dantilley Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Is heavily armed marines strolling down the beach at one of Thailand's most visited tourist destinations the image it wants to convey to prospective tourists? No, which is why it was probably the best time to do it, during low season.
Ulic Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Personally like what is going on. But I think one row of umbrellas and beach chairs is a good compromise. This concession could pay for beach clean up and life guards. No life guards no beach chairs can be set up. The same for massage or food stand concessions.
ClutchClark Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) So whats going to happen when I arrive down to the beach with 5 sun lounges & 3 umbrellas to use for my 2 5yr old daughters, my wife my 93yr old mother & myself? We like to spend all day on the beach but we like to lay out of the sand under an umbrella will we be deprived of this? The beach chair/umbrella hire service had been a "unique" part of Phuket Beach life and getting drinks and fresh fruit brought to you was a treat it was also nice to get a massage on the odd occasion thats one of the many reasons we come to a place like this because it's different. I understand some vendors took advantage of the situation and certainly something had to be done about it no argument about that but I do think the lounges/umbrellas need to be replaced in the high season in a more controlled way. The tourist obviously liked them judging by the scant availability of unoccupied sets during the high season .. we certainly did. A lot of people here are also blaming the vendors being greedy etc but if you were given the opportunity to set up a business on the beach by the authorities would you not take up this opportunity? I bet some of you would. No the people to blame for this is the greedy authorities who allowed it to happen in the first place not the locals they were just supplying a much wanted service under the guise of being permitted to do so. Can you honestly not understand what is going on here?Possession of Beach umbrellas is not being made a crime. Vendors who rent beach umbrellas and chairs on a public beach are coming under the attention of the authorities. Your anxiety is overly dramatic and good news for you--unwarranted. In fact, you will now have far more available beach front to set up your umbrella ;-) Cheers Edited July 9, 2014 by ClutchClark
Popular Post Old Croc Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2014 Personally like what is going on. But I think one row of umbrellas and beach chairs is a good compromise. This concession could pay for beach clean up and life guards. No life guards no beach chairs can be set up. The same for massage or food stand concessions. There were supposed to be limited rows of chairs under the old system and look how that ended up. Greed knows no boundaries, and if given an inch will take a beach. 3
Oziex1 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I fully support all posters who have the understanding of this issue. I'm repeating myself here I know. To the rest of you, look away from your computer screen and look at the situation here. It has taken the combined effort by this nations Armed Forces to clear these people from the beach and still they complain! They are not capable of compromise, fairness or respect for the law, they had to go! There isn't going to be just a few chairs and umbrellas, a few equals a few more and the chain reaction starts. I look forward to sitting on the beach without being hassled by people who think they own the beach. OK enough from me on this issue. 2
Pinot Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) A stupid move by the government. The tourist should be able to relax and have food delivered, get a massage on the beach, have chairs and umbrellas available for use. But it should be regulated. Rent should be charge for use. number of sellers reduced and the price of chairs and umbrellas set so tourist are not overcharged. You mean just like back home at Western beaches? Why should it be allowed here? For the tourist experience? It will be near impossible to regulate. The Generals have done the absolutely correct thing and if you don't like it, sorry. Toss them all off the beach. Buddha Bless the Generals. More at: <removed> Edited July 10, 2014 by LivinginKata URL to another forum removed
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