Ratchaphat University......Arts degree cost

[Ned]

Anyone out there paid for a course at the above uni recently? The wife's grandson is hoping to enroll next year in an arts degree......probably a three year one. I was wondering what the fees would be, approx for a full year ie two semesters.

Thanks

[harrry]

Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000 a year..this will include the extra fees like library campus transport and the general compulsory stuff.

Do not forget that here they have to stay on campus for the first year. Rent for this is reasonable...from about 1000baht a month up. Food and extras will be about 100baht a day as they will not be allowed to cook their own food or noodles in the dorms.

[chiang mai]

Agreed, 35k a term, ++.

[Ned]

He's paying about 20k a year fees now at his "high school" completing his M6.

70k is a big markup on that! I spoke to him a little while ago and he reckoned fees would be similar at Ratchaphat. I found that hard to believe.

Thanks for your info.

[harrry]

When comparing just check how they quote the fees. Some will say 15000 a term and forget to tell you that there is also 10000 of extras you have to pay at the same time, others will quote the full figure.

[dave2]

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Agreed, 35k a term

wow .... all that to push out graduates who cant add up

without a

dave2

[harrry]

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Agreed, 35k a term

wow .... all that to push out graduates who cant add up

without a

dave2

In fairness there are some reasonably good graduates too. Maybe not top tier but on a peer with an average overseas student.

[zeichen]

"Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000"

What are you guys smoking?

Tuition for Thais was 7,000 baht a year as of last year. The tuition went up this term to 17,000 a term. Dorms are only 3,000-5,000 a term depending on which dorm you stay at. Also it isn't mandatory to live on campus if they have family they live with in CM. That is only for people from other provinces. They don't pay per month for dorms, that is off campus housing.

Realistically with all fees, books, dorm and meals should be less than 50,000 a year with the new pricing system. My niece just graduated so she was on the old system and it was only about 25,000 baht a year. This year has caused a lot of problems for parents that were used to the old price system. Quite a shock to basically double costs.

70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities.

[zeichen]

"

wow .... all that to push out graduates who cant add up

without a

"

You do realize that Ying Luck went to CMU. Perhaps you did better than prime minister but I think that local kids do ok.

[chiang mai]

"Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000"

What are you guys smoking?

Tuition for Thais was 7,000 baht a year as of last year. The tuition went up this term to 17,000 a term. Dorms are only 3,000-5,000 a term depending on which dorm you stay at. Also it isn't mandatory to live on campus if they have family they live with in CM. That is only for people from other provinces. They don't pay per month for dorms, that is off campus housing.

Realistically with all fees, books, dorm and meals should be less than 50,000 a year with the new pricing system. My niece just graduated so she was on the old system and it was only about 25,000 baht a year. This year has caused a lot of problems for parents that were used to the old price system. Quite a shock to basically double costs.

70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities.

No and I have the receipts to prove it! In Chiang Rai, nursing school is THB 35k per term, x 2 per year, plus all the extra's such as books, material, living cost food and so on, Mrs. CM's niece just started there so I'm in for five years of pain - Payap was similar but 45k per term.

Two years ago I finished paying for another of the family to get through uni., 35K baht for four years, Rajapaj (sic) is the same. And before anyone goes there, I was heavily involved in the selection and application process of all of them.

[harrry]

I have just paid some of the fees for my niece at Phayo. A bed in the dormitary on campus (cheapest) cost 16500 for the year plus electricity and I have just had to pay ( and have the receipt) another 850baht which apparently is charged by them every two or three months..compusorary but not sure what it is for.

Her fees for the semester were 12500 for one and the course she is doing is broken into 3 short semeters...so that is 37500.

In addition she has been told there are extra charges which will amount to about 10000 a semester for library transport materials supplied (photocopied books) and I believe health insurance plus some sprorts fees (compulsorary).

This totals over 70000 now.

I did not know that Chiangmai students did not have to stay on campus for the first year. In Phayo all students must stay unless they have a disability that prevents them doing so. (I guess rich parents may be that disability) My nieces roomate and old friend friend through high school lives in Phayo and has no choice but to stay on campus.

In fairness to her grandmother, and to stop people saying they saw a farang coming I am only contributing some as she has no parents and the family income from rice from our families combined holdings of 20 acres is not enough to fully cover her. I am happy to do this as she is worth every cent of it and even though I do worry that she will have difficulty handling the course she has chosen am glad to be able to help her at least try to achieve it.

[zeichen]

"No and I have the receipts to prove it! In Chiang Rai, nursing school is THB 35k per term"

Argument over. The OP isn't asking about nursing school in CR. This is CM forum and he is asking about state funded rajabat Arts department. Not all departments charge the same fees.

Medical and Nursing faculties are more expensive than other departments.

I just stated what the government fees were and what the changes are happening this year. Perhaps you cannot read Thai and have to ask MS CM what is up, but I can assure you the fees are written in Thai and are not 35 baht a term they are 17k this year.

[harrry]

"No and I have the receipts to prove it! In Chiang Rai, nursing school is THB 35k per term"

Argument over. The OP isn't asking about nursing school in CR. This is CM forum and he is asking about state funded rajabat Arts department. Not all departments charge the same fees.

Medical and Nursing faculties are more expensive than other departments.

I just stated what the government fees were and what the changes are happening this year. Perhaps you cannot read Thai and have to ask MS CM what is up, but I can assure you the fees are written in Thai and are not 35 baht a term they are 17k this year.

Do those feed include books, and library fees, and the campus bus, and the sports fees?

[chiang mai]

"No and I have the receipts to prove it! In Chiang Rai, nursing school is THB 35k per term"

Argument over. The OP isn't asking about nursing school in CR. This is CM forum and he is asking about state funded rajabat Arts department. Not all departments charge the same fees.

Medical and Nursing faculties are more expensive than other departments.

I just stated what the government fees were and what the changes are happening this year. Perhaps you cannot read Thai and have to ask MS CM what is up, but I can assure you the fees are written in Thai and are not 35 baht a term they are 17k this year.

My man, I was responding mostly to your comment:

"70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities".

It is not, it is the cost to Thai citizens at universities here!

[harrry]

I could say the fees at Phayo are 10500 a semester and that is the base fee that my neices roomate is paying for her subject. It is not however the total of what she has to pay in fees. The total of the extra fees more than doubles this. My neice has to pay 12500 for her base fee (probably because of a credit point difference). The extra fees again more than doubles this.

I am surpised at your comment "Perhaps you cannot read Thai and have to ask MS CM"

I have in the past found you a reasonably polite poster.

We are talking about Government University fees, they may not be those of yours but we have specified what they are. I have checked the Thai website for CMRU but have not seen on a quick look a fee shedule. I have seen where invoices are calculated for each student. Could you tell us where these fees are so we may either read them ourselves or ask others?

[AnotherOneAmerican]

"Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000"

What are you guys smoking?

Tuition for Thais was 7,000 baht a year as of last year. The tuition went up this term to 17,000 a term. Dorms are only 3,000-5,000 a term depending on which dorm you stay at. Also it isn't mandatory to live on campus if they have family they live with in CM. That is only for people from other provinces. They don't pay per month for dorms, that is off campus housing.

Realistically with all fees, books, dorm and meals should be less than 50,000 a year with the new pricing system. My niece just graduated so she was on the old system and it was only about 25,000 baht a year. This year has caused a lot of problems for parents that were used to the old price system. Quite a shock to basically double costs.

70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities.

Dunno about the new fees,

Have someone in my family starting a teaching degree in CM soon, was quoted 8k a term last year (2 terms a year).

But Z is accurate about the fee charges for Thais last year.

Off topic (and in an attempt to explain wild price differences quoted)

Lots of foreigners get scammed over fees, if they don't pay them directly and get a receipt.

Rule 1 for foreigner men, never put money in a Thai ladies outstretched hand.

PS

35k/term for nursing, NO WAY.

Agree with Z, very fishy.

[harrry]

I agree that the cmru FEE may well be 17000 a semester. What we still have not determined is whether this is llike a Ryan Air fare and the add ons are more or fully inclusive.

This is an important topic for many people and we have had at least two of us give our actual experiences of fees this year, not at CMRU though in Arts. So please Z let us know what that fee includes.

[Deacon Bell]

Firstly.... Rajabhat Universities are the cheapest universities.

IIRC they have only been called Universities for the last 10 yrs or so, before that they were only classified as colleges. Every province has one, I think they are mainly government funded.

They are cheap.

I would be surprised if the base fee was 10k per semester, with perhaps another 5k on top for various fees.

Probably less than 1/2 the cost of other universities.

[chiang mai]

35k/term for nursing, NO WAY.

Agree with Z, very fishy.

[Deacon Bell]

Rajabhat in Udon Thani, BA Degrees, fees range from 9,500-12,000 per semester.

http://www.udru.ac.th/english/tuition.html

Hope that helps the OP a bit.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

And in Lampang Rat even cheaper,

http://www.lpru.ac.th/foreignaffairs/eng/course.html

B.A. is 14k/year (7k/semester)

Been reading through the CMRU website, tuition fees seem to be missing???

Seems unlikely they could be charging 2x-4x the other Rat fees though.

As Deacon says, they are the cheapest universities.

[chiang mai]

"Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000"

What are you guys smoking?

Tuition for Thais was 7,000 baht a year as of last year. The tuition went up this term to 17,000 a term. Dorms are only 3,000-5,000 a term depending on which dorm you stay at. Also it isn't mandatory to live on campus if they have family they live with in CM. That is only for people from other provinces. They don't pay per month for dorms, that is off campus housing.

Realistically with all fees, books, dorm and meals should be less than 50,000 a year with the new pricing system. My niece just graduated so she was on the old system and it was only about 25,000 baht a year. This year has caused a lot of problems for parents that were used to the old price system. Quite a shock to basically double costs.

70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities.

35k/term for nursing, NO WAY.

Agree with Z, very fishy.

Damn, I was wrong, you'll see if you click on the "Programs" tab here:

http://www.mfu.ac.th/school2013/nursing/

I should have said THB 43,000 per semester, not 35,000!

Sorry everyone.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

"Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000"

What are you guys smoking?

Tuition for Thais was 7,000 baht a year as of last year. The tuition went up this term to 17,000 a term. Dorms are only 3,000-5,000 a term depending on which dorm you stay at. Also it isn't mandatory to live on campus if they have family they live with in CM. That is only for people from other provinces. They don't pay per month for dorms, that is off campus housing.

Realistically with all fees, books, dorm and meals should be less than 50,000 a year with the new pricing system. My niece just graduated so she was on the old system and it was only about 25,000 baht a year. This year has caused a lot of problems for parents that were used to the old price system. Quite a shock to basically double costs.

70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities.

35k/term for nursing, NO WAY.

Agree with Z, very fishy.

Damn, I was wrong, you'll see if you click on the "Programs" tab here:

http://www.mfu.ac.th/school2013/nursing/

I should have said THB 43,000 per semester, not 35,000!

Sorry everyone.

International courses cost a lot more than Thai courses.

You can't really compare their fees to Rat Uni fees.

[chiang mai]

"Most of the Uni fees work out at round 70000"

What are you guys smoking?

Tuition for Thais was 7,000 baht a year as of last year. The tuition went up this term to 17,000 a term. Dorms are only 3,000-5,000 a term depending on which dorm you stay at. Also it isn't mandatory to live on campus if they have family they live with in CM. That is only for people from other provinces. They don't pay per month for dorms, that is off campus housing.

Realistically with all fees, books, dorm and meals should be less than 50,000 a year with the new pricing system. My niece just graduated so she was on the old system and it was only about 25,000 baht a year. This year has caused a lot of problems for parents that were used to the old price system. Quite a shock to basically double costs.

70,000 baht is for International programs at government Universities.

35k/term for nursing, NO WAY.

Agree with Z, very fishy.

Damn, I was wrong, you'll see if you click on the "Programs" tab here:

http://www.mfu.ac.th/school2013/nursing/

I should have said THB 43,000 per semester, not 35,000!

Sorry everyone.

International courses cost a lot more than Thai courses.

You can't really compare their fees to Rat Uni fees.

That is not an international course, it is for Thai's, my wife's niece is Thai, as are 100% of the students and the lessons are held in Thai.

[zeichen]

Harry, you keep harping about this nursing program. You are driving me nuts. The OP isn't interested in how much you spend on your niece's nursing degree in CR. This is about the CM local Rajabat art's department.

2nd, I do want to point out that the link you gave is all in English. So why would a program for all Thai people have listing in English? To make money from international students. Yes, the program is in Thai and does say so but it encourages foreign students to apply.

It also says that the program was started just a few years ago. You do realize that the "School of Nursing" is a private entity under the government program and does not reflect the costs of the other departments at the same university. It's costs would be the same as any private university not public programs.

At CMU there is CAMT (and other departments) which is more than 3 times the cost of other programs, there are language centers that offer courses that are 5 times the cost.

Government universities have private entities under their umbrella but are not the same fees as the other programs.

Again this thread is about how much for CM Rajabat general programs not private nursing programs.

You must feel so proud of spending 400,000+ baht for your niece to get a job that will pay her 6-9,000 baht a month. Great investment.

[harrry]

Harry, you keep harping about this nursing program. You are driving me nuts. The OP isn't interested in how much you spend on your niece's nursing degree in CR. This is about the CM local Rajabat art's department.

2nd, I do want to point out that the link you gave is all in English. So why would a program for all Thai people have listing in English? To make money from international students. Yes, the program is in Thai and does say so but it encourages foreign students to apply.

It also says that the program was started just a few years ago. You do realize that the "School of Nursing" is a private entity under the government program and does not reflect the costs of the other departments at the same university. It's costs would be the same as any private university not public programs.

At CMU there is CAMT (and other departments) which is more than 3 times the cost of other programs, there are language centers that offer courses that are 5 times the cost.

Government universities have private entities under their umbrella but are not the same fees as the other programs.

Again this thread is about how much for CM Rajabat general programs not private nursing programs.

You must feel so proud of spending 400,000+ baht for your niece to get a job that will pay her 6-9,000 baht a month. Great investment.You

You obviously just want to harp on witrhout reading as i HAVE NOT ONCE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT NURSING, I did mention what it costs at a government University in Pahyo in a first year Science program for my neice including ther ancillary fees.

I also have not posted any link at all although I did note that although I have tried to find one on the Thai section of the Chiang Mai Rajapat site I have not found one and as you said that it was because we could not read it I asked you to locate it as you said you knew what the prices are.

I would also advise you to keep your insults of othr peoples families off this site.

If you are going to reply at least read the posts..

[chiang mai]

Harry, you keep harping about this nursing program. You are driving me nuts. The OP isn't interested in how much you spend on your niece's nursing degree in CR. This is about the CM local Rajabat art's department.

2nd, I do want to point out that the link you gave is all in English. So why would a program for all Thai people have listing in English? To make money from international students. Yes, the program is in Thai and does say so but it encourages foreign students to apply.

It also says that the program was started just a few years ago. You do realize that the "School of Nursing" is a private entity under the government program and does not reflect the costs of the other departments at the same university. It's costs would be the same as any private university not public programs.

At CMU there is CAMT (and other departments) which is more than 3 times the cost of other programs, there are language centers that offer courses that are 5 times the cost.

Government universities have private entities under their umbrella but are not the same fees as the other programs.

Again this thread is about how much for CM Rajabat general programs not private nursing programs.

You must feel so proud of spending 400,000+ baht for your niece to get a job that will pay her 6-9,000 baht a month. Great investment.

You're very confused I see and my name is not Harry!

So sorry that this is driving you crazy, you have an option not to read specific posts and/or to put posters on "ignore", feel free to try either or both!

But my posts here are in response to your post number 9 where you made an incorrect and very misleading statement about university costs in Thailand which I have corrected, for the benefit of the wider audience, just because I have done so please don't start bleating that I'm off topic:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756122-ratchaphat-universityarts-degree-cost/#entry8319109

Secondly, this is the web site for the School of Nursing, you'll note that it is in Thai and English, the link I supplied earlier was to demonstrate costs and to disprove your comment and one other by AOA, only: http://www.mfu.ac.th/school/nurse/

Finally, your comments on the personal aspects of our family are unwanted and unneeded, that fact notwithstanding, you appear to think that nursing is a job rather than a calling or a vocation and you clearly have no idea of the associated salary structures.

[elektrified]

At CMU there is CAMT (and other departments) which is more than 3 times the cost of other programs, there are language centers that offer courses that are 5 times the cost.

......400,000+ baht for your niece to get a job that will pay her 6-9,000 baht a month. Great investment.

Right, not all education is cheap in Thailand. It depends on what the program is. The g/f's brother has borrowed about 850,000 THB so far for his education (Ph.D.) He already has his Master's degree in Education. Of course he already has a very good paying job and expects to get even a better one when he has his Ph.D. So it' a worthwhile investment for him.

Edit: sorry I know this has nothing to do withe OP (and I was not siding with the above poster), only pointing out that some programs can be quite expensive; but not all.

[elektrified]

you appear to think that nursing is a job rather than a calling or a vocation and you clearly have no idea of the associated salary structures.

I agree with chiang mai. We have a close friend who is a nurse, studied special surgical training in the U.S., has a Master's degree, and works here in C.M. at a couple of different jobs. She is VERY well paid. Drives a BMW and has been to the USA and Europe a few times on vacation. Nursing can be a very good paying profession.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

You obviously just want to harp on witrhout reading as i HAVE NOT ONCE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT NURSING, I did mention what it costs at a government University in Pahyo in a first year Science program for my neice including ther ancillary fees.

I also have not posted any link at all although I did note that although I have tried to find one on the Thai section of the Chiang Mai Rajapat site I have not found one and as you said that it was because we could not read it I asked you to locate it as you said you knew what the prices are.

I would also advise you to keep your insults of othr peoples families off this site.

If you are going to reply at least read the posts..

I can read it and the fees don't appear to be advertised on the CMRU website.

Thailand is the home of dual pricing, when a foreigner asks, it costs more.

The CR nursing website, is in very good English, boasts International recognition, it's clearly aimed at foreign "sponsors".

I didn't see any entrance requirements either (unusual for legit establishments), so guessing if you can pay, you're in.

PS

I have a very good idea of the nursing salary structure, my niece is an administrator at a local CM government hospital and her MIL is CEO.

15k/month is the most money average nurses can expect. (Not including the 1 in a million that travel the world at someone else's expense)

Anyway back to the OK,

Fees in Rat Unis are around the 10k/term.