ALLSEEINGEYE Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I wouldn't say that a blood stain is significant evidence. Murder needs a motive, establish the motive and they will have a case. Yeah right, ever heard of O.J Simpson??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 "According to Pol.Col. Prachum, the officers in charge of CCTV investigation "made their own assumption" "There has been a lot of information [given to the media] through many channels," Pol.Col. Prachum explained. "Each officer gave their own piece of information." What a police force!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Dennis Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) When did he buy his ferry ticket would be worth checking out Edited September 17, 2014 by les Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Police Misidentify Murdered Britons in CCTV Footage By Khaosod English A photo given to the media by police that was mistakenly identified as the 2 British tourists who were murdered later that night on 15 Sept 2014. BANGKOK — Police say they mistakenly identified two people in a photograph distributed to the media as the British tourists who were murdered on the popular island of Koh Tao on Monday. Police initially said the still photograph taken from CCTV footage showed David Miller, 24, and Hanner Witheridge, 23, walking hand-in-hand away from a beachside party on Haat Sai Ri Beach on the night of 15 September. The pair was later found naked and beaten to death on the beach at 6:30am on 16 September. But Pol.Col. Prachum Ruengthong, a commander of Pha Ngan Police who oversees Koh Tao island, said today that the photograph did not in fact depict the two victims. According to Pol.Col. Prachum, the officers in charge of CCTV investigation "made their own assumption" and misidentified the pair. The police currently have no CCTV footage of the victims, he added. Police earlier insisted the image showed the two murder victims, following several requests for confirmation by Khaosod English. "There has been a lot of information [given to the media] through many channels," Pol.Col. Prachum explained. "Each officer gave their own piece of information. From now on, I will be the only person who gives information." However, Pol.Col. Prachum said the other image given to the media of a man who police say behaved suspiciously near where the bodies were found is still valid. Police are still searching for the man, though the latest reports say two British friends of Mr. Miller are also being considered as possible suspects. Three male migrant workers from Myanmar were cleared by police yesterday after being detained and interrogated about the incident. The mis-identified photograph is one of several blunders made by Thai police and media investigating the murder case over the past few days. Thai police previously gave unsubstantiated and bizarre statements about the murder, such as the claim that one of Mr. Miller's friends was a "gay man" who possibly committed the murder out of jealousy, and the announcement that the island had been “sealed off,” whereas in reality boats were permitted to leave the docks normally. These claims were widely reported by major Thai media agencies. Police also made contradictory statements about a British friend of Mr. Miller, who was initially considered a suspect, then released after questioning and declared unrelated to the murder, only to be detained again as a potential suspect this morning. The bodies of Mr. Miller and Ms. Witheridge arrived in Bangkok yesterday for an autopsy. Source: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1410941012 [khaosod]2014-09-17[/khaosod This was on Yahoo UK early today and everyone, apart from the BIB, seems to have noticed the lady featured wasn't blond. The Pol. Col. was so correct about each officer and their own piece of information but where was the CONTROL, why was everyone allowed to spout off willy nilly ? Sorry but a rhetorical question and the BIB wonder why their investigations turn into a cl.......ck ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I can only guess Yeah......and there lies the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Police Misidentify Murdered Britons in CCTV Footage By Khaosod English A photo given to the media by police that was mistakenly identified as the 2 British tourists who were murdered later that night on 15 Sept 2014. BANGKOK — Police say they mistakenly identified two people in a photograph distributed to the media as the British tourists who were murdered on the popular island of Koh Tao on Monday. Police initially said the still photograph taken from CCTV footage showed David Miller, 24, and Hanner Witheridge, 23, walking hand-in-hand away from a beachside party on Haat Sai Ri Beach on the night of 15 September. The pair was later found naked and beaten to death on the beach at 6:30am on 16 September. But Pol.Col. Prachum Ruengthong, a commander of Pha Ngan Police who oversees Koh Tao island, said today that the photograph did not in fact depict the two victims. According to Pol.Col. Prachum, the officers in charge of CCTV investigation "made their own assumption" and misidentified the pair. The police currently have no CCTV footage of the victims, he added. Police earlier insisted the image showed the two murder victims, following several requests for confirmation by Khaosod English. "There has been a lot of information [given to the media] through many channels," Pol.Col. Prachum explained. "Each officer gave their own piece of information. From now on, I will be the only person who gives information." However, Pol.Col. Prachum said the other image given to the media of a man who police say behaved suspiciously near where the bodies were found is still valid. Police are still searching for the man, though the latest reports say two British friends of Mr. Miller are also being considered as possible suspects. Three male migrant workers from Myanmar were cleared by police yesterday after being detained and interrogated about the incident. The mis-identified photograph is one of several blunders made by Thai police and media investigating the murder case over the past few days. Thai police previously gave unsubstantiated and bizarre statements about the murder, such as the claim that one of Mr. Miller's friends was a "gay man" who possibly committed the murder out of jealousy, and the announcement that the island had been “sealed off,” whereas in reality boats were permitted to leave the docks normally. These claims were widely reported by major Thai media agencies. Police also made contradictory statements about a British friend of Mr. Miller, who was initially considered a suspect, then released after questioning and declared unrelated to the murder, only to be detained again as a potential suspect this morning. The bodies of Mr. Miller and Ms. Witheridge arrived in Bangkok yesterday for an autopsy. Source: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1410941012 -- Khaosod English 2014-09-17 "Each officer gave their own piece of information. From now on, I will be the only person who gives information." The sooner that a pooyai in Thailand learns to say "no comment" when not sure, it will be a great day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lildragon Posted September 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2014 Bean87 I hope you and the families find justice soon. The rabid media and rumor merchants are not helping at all. Ignore some of the dribblers on this forum and know that a lot of us have deep condolences for your and the families losses. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Just found a better picture http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2758358/Shirtless-prime-suspect-caught-CCTV-near-Thai-beach-party-two-British-tourists-bludgeoned-death-island.html Dailymail doesn't load, where I am sitting. mmmmm. Please read the thread. It is mentioned a number of times that the DAILY MAIL HAS BEEN BLOCKED IN THAILAND FOR 3 MONTHS OVER ANOTHER ISSUE! Please can everybody forgive the shouting here, I feel it is justified. It is not against you Minnehaha but you are the nth person to say the same thing without checking the thread. Hopefully with this bold and uppercase people might not miss it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Didn't the police say he had scratches ? girls scratch, check her finger nails for traces of skin and match the DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arandora Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thai police don't know there is no "i" in the word TEAM. For every officer it appears they think this is their moment of fame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango66 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Apparently in the Thai language news the blood stained clothes were hidden in his luggage, also the guy had been raped too plus the girl had blonde hair in her hands, it's going to get interesting now for sure I already told the police, it was the gardener ! ( sorry hear they are the beachboys ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 OZ news reports that British police are there "assisting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thailand thrown onto the international spot light for the wrong reasons yet again but making it worse is the clowns from the BIB who are looking more and more unprofessional. At this rate getting a conviction will be come impossible because no one will ever believe the job the BIB did was anyway competent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Anyone remember the two British girls arrested for drug trafficing a few years back? Denials from them, accusations from all the good British newspapers about a fit up, corrupt police etc, etc. Released after a couple of years. Stepped off the aeroplane back home, admitted they did it and sold story to the papers. Just because you are a Brit does not mean you cannot be guilty. Lets wait for more info. Same happened around 28 years ago. Two girls stayed at the Grace Hotel near soi Nana and got arrested with drugs at the Airport. They said that they did not know who slipped the drugs into their suitcase and after a lot of British media support eventually got released. When they got back to the UK they appeared on ITV News complaining about their treatment and that they were innocent. The problem with their story was that they had stayed at the notorious Grace Hotel and invited a well known Thai drug dealer into their room. Putting it simply, their story was bullshit, as anyone with local knowledge would have known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingyai Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 First it was Burmese, then British. And let's see, that guy on the beach harassing the woman was Cambodian. Bad air in Chiang Mai is due to the Koreans. Blame the foreigners. They Burmese were never accused. They were close to the scene so they detained, questioned, and let go. Seems pretty straight forward police work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minikev Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 plus the girl had blonde hair in her hands, The arrested farang suspect doesn't have blonde hair (and the suspected Burmese workers probably don't either). The murdered girl does however have blonde hair. All the stuff about blonde hair in her hand is probably a translation error as it says see thong which is golden hair. Thais often refer this colour to any lighter than brown, anyway if dna matches it is his if it doesn't it's not so we just have to wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxclever Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Is that a big cut on the back of his right hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Apparently in the Thai language news the blood stained clothes were hidden in his luggage, also the guy had been raped too plus the girl had blonde hair in her hands, it's going to get interesting now for sure Surely the police will by now have semen samples from the rape. And why did this guy flee on the very first ferry in the morning. He will find out all about rape when he gets to Bangkok Hilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Let's hope there's more genuine evidence than ' seen strolling near the scene ', I presume if it's him he was strolling before and not after the crime. They have found a bloodstain on his clothes but wasn't he already interviewed and allowed to go and the stain wasn't seen then ? I'm not saying he's innocent but the BIB get everything arse for elbow and it raises doubt especially when told from the very top to get it solved ' yesterday '. "but the BIB get everything arse for elbow" Certainly a popular fantasy here at the hub of racially-inspired-wet-dreams. 11) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. "especially when told from the very top to get it solved ' yesterday '. " If that was all that was required, they could have "made sure" the Burmese were guilty and been done with it. Edited September 17, 2014 by Suradit69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krislarter Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 This girl is from my town here in England.Although i didn't know her everybody is is in shock here. We all hope this is resolved quickly.I think the police have actually done a very good job so far. My thoughts are with the deceased's families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 What a twist. It will be interesting to see if they really have their killer or ae just tryin make a foreigner guilty to save their tourism. Good they were able to track down a single tourist and make an arrest however leaving the island (quickly) does not mean running from the scene of a crime Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app They didn't mention whether he had already planned to leave Koh Tao or whether he cut short his reservation at the hotel. He could also have felt he didn't want to stay in that place after a horrible murder had been committed. The police were quick to cite evidence of blood stained clothes and smashed iPhones against the Burmese but that came to nothing. Heaven forbid that it could have been a Thai citizen. Maybe even a policeman, as is alleged in the still unsolved murder of Kirsty Jones in Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Let's hope there's more genuine evidence than ' seen strolling near the scene ', I presume if it's him he was strolling before and not after the crime. They have found a bloodstain on his clothes but wasn't he already interviewed and allowed to go and the stain wasn't seen then ? I'm not saying he's innocent but the BIB get everything arse for elbow and it raises doubt especially when told from the very top to get it solved ' yesterday '. "but the BIB get everything arse for elbow" Certainly a popular fantasy here at the hub of racially-inspired-wet-dreams. 11) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. Thanks for that PC operative. A BIB groupie per chance / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Halion Posted September 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2014 Lets all take a holiday from useless speculation regarding this brutal and heinous crime and wait for the DNA and other forensic evidence to be derived from the ongoing investigation. All the family and friends are also victims of this atrocious act and it will serve no purpose to speculate on the outcome at this point in time. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOZMO Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 why is it unlikely? it seems no less likely than any of the other scenarios. Especially a backpacker slumming around!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingyai Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 If a Thai was found to have done it many on here would be screaming for the death penalty If it turns out a Brit did it will you same people also scream for the death penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Lets all take a holiday from useless speculation regarding this brutal and heinous crime and wait for the DNA and other forensic evidence to be derived from the ongoing investigation. All the family and friends are also victims of this atrocious act and it will serve no purpose to speculate on the outcome at this point in time. The less speculation and adverse publicity this case gets, the more likely the Thai police will conclude it was suicide. We must all do our part to keep this case in the public eye, until real evidence convicts a completely credible criminal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 What a twist. It will be interesting to see if they really have their killer or ae just tryin make a foreigner guilty to save their tourism. Good they were able to track down a single tourist and make an arrest however leaving the island (quickly) does not mean running from the scene of a crime Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Maybe he came to the end of his trip or didn't feel like staying there after the murders. The police were quick to tout evidence of blood stained clothes and smashed iPhones in the Burmese' shack but that now seems to have come to nothing. Heaven forbid that it should have been a Thai or even a policemen, as is alleged in the unsolved murder of Kirsty Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 so now there are 4 suspects. the backpacker with blood on his clothes and the three Burmese with bloody i phones? 1 in custody and 3 not in custody awaiting DNA results. I just hope they charge the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FeroX Posted September 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2014 If a Thai was found to have done it many on here would be screaming for the death penalty If it turns out a Brit did it will you same people also scream for the death penalty? Dam right i would. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobin Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 So those brit girls with drugs lied, lied, and lied to protect their a**es? Surely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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