Is the Chiang Rai forum dying?

[BrookRoberts]

A good post Scea, practical and positive.

When I talk about forums, I am talking about this Chiang Rai forum. Perhaps the answer is to merge it with the Chiang Mai forum and give it a fresh start?

I might be wrong, but I recall being told that there is only one person who is not welcome at the other forum, and it isn't you. I suspect you would get a warm welcome over there. It does have zero tolerance for cleverly worded "wordsmith" type comments that are designed to cause offence but superficially comply to the rules.

It's a policy I would like to see here.

[harrry]

I think describing the local forum's response as a response is less than accurate, that was a serious meltdown.

It convinced me of the total lack of justice in this world when VF is desribed as a "clever wordsmith" and I'm "the Chiang Rai troll".

Administration of forums isn't all pats on the back and congratulations, eventually you're sure to piss some one off and you have to be able to accept it and move on.

I don't know enough about you to comment Scea.

However you slice and dice it, the fact remains people have voted with their feet and it is this forum who have lost out. You can moan about the past or you can try and put things right.

That other forum means that when someone gets banned here or votes with their feet, they become part of a much more active and successful community. They have a voice, a loud one, and it's listened to. Gone are the days of being banned and disappearing into obscurity.

Some would go so far as to say this forum is finished in Ching Rai. Will Chiang Mai be next? Where will it end? Do we want change or do we want to be Ostrich's?

I know of one business who was warned that sponsoring this forum would be bad for his business. There are successful people in this province that are working behind the scenes to promote the other forum and finish this one, that can't be healthy.

Remember the old adage, a happy customer tells another, an unhappy customer tells 20 more. There are way too many unhappy customers here.

FWIW I think the time has come for a change.

Change is inevitable and I certainly look forward to most if it's for the good.

I look forward to any suggestions by new members such as yourself as to how it can be implemented.

And no, VillageFarang is not going to ride off into the sunset.

The new forum did not make a new start, it took the baggage from here and enshrined it over there.

There was a huge opportunity to unite the Chiang Rai community but a thread was started where members were allowed to abuse certain ThaiVisa users, often in offensive and divisive terms.

Sanity eventually prevailed and the thread has gone... or been hidden for privileged users... but the memories remain.

Joining for me was probably never an option even if I had been approached by the organisers, which I wasn't.

And if that sounds like sour grapes you just could be right.

Where they are wrong is in that long standing claim that we are a two bit forum where people rarely post because of an unhappy atmosphere.

We're not, we're a forum of nearly 200,000 members for ALL of Thailand and people who are interested in it.

If there are problems here it will change as it has changed many times in the 10 years I've spent here.

We're going to be here for a long time yet.

In fairness to the other forum it did not just take some of the baggage. Many of the members there are very nice people who for some reason have most of their links there. The forum owner there as I have stated is a nice person too though if I just based my opinion on his recent outburst against me I may not think so. I am sorry he is obviously having problems. I agree with Skeudugenga that the main problems started when the baggage that had gone there were permitted (or even encouraged) to organise on forum meets against and organised disruptions of this forum. No one I know (well maybe one person in ChiangMai) has ever been banned from ThaiVisa without good cause. Some, including myself have had suspensions which may or may not have been deserved but to ban needed definite reasons.

I wish this fight would stop. For reasons many know I have problems getting out in the community. This forum is a good window to the world around me. I personally wish his forum was such that it could be even more one for me here too, but those days have passed.

Edited October 12, 2014 by harrry

[sceadugenga]

OK Harry, I'm finished.

I invite the moderator to close the thread.

[villagefarang]

I have begged, pleaded and cajoled in an effort to get people to raise their game and make a positive contribution to the forum but all I get back, from certain circles, is that I am a bad guy. I have always said there is room for everyone and simply ask that people lead by example. Post the kind of material you would like to read, it is that simple. This personal vendetta stuff is silly and paints everyone with an unflattering brush.

Every time I think things are running smoothly and I could take a backseat, spending more time on my other interests, someone comes along and stirs things up again. I think allowing bullies to succeed, sets a bad precedent so I will stick around until things improve. The “lets hate VF” campaign simply isn’t going to work.

I agree with Scea that this has gone on long enough.

[onthedarkside]

This topic just proves that the CR forum is alive and well with many eyes looking at this topic.

Unfortunately this topic has developed a very unpleasant tone and is now closed.

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