webfact Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Koh Tao case influences tourist moodThe NationBANGKOK: -- Thirty nine per cent of European tourists who are planning trips to Thailand in the next six to 24 months have been closely following the Kingdom's investigation into the grisly murder on the southern island of Koh Tao, according to a survey by Envirosell.They say the murder has affected Thailand's image as a tourist destination and they are closely monitoring developments before making a final decision.The survey showed that 94 per cent of tourists from the United Kingdom have knowledge of the murder, against 73 per cent in other European countries, such as Austria, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands.The survey, conducted during October 13-16 following the murder of two British tourists, covered 618 British respondents and 1,217 from other countries.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Koh-Tao-case-influences-tourist-mood-30245950.html-- The Nation 2014-10-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 15Peter20 Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yo Prayuth! Get those pollsters who got you a 93% approval rating to do their own poll on this subject - the situation needs correcting! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVillain Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Whodathunkit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 TAT, BIB and Koh Tao take note, the cover up isn't working 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The stuttering parrot Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 In 6 to 24 months?Unfortunately no matter which way the decision goes this case will be long forgotten by the and replaced with didn't something happen there sometime ago.Plenty of nasty things have happen in the past that have been forgotten.<<<< Off topic deflection comments removed >>>> Business as usual in those places. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The survey showed that 94 per cent of tourists from the United Kingdom have knowledge of the murder, against 73 per cent in other European countries, such as Austria, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands. Why not from Burma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BoristheBlade Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 Do the Thai nation really know the definition of %?, I am not sure they do.....and I include the people whom conduct these surveys. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucpez Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Go Prayut and RTP, go! You are not there yet, there is still room for improvement and screw it up even more to get to 100%!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I do hope once this is all over and tourism returns, that the powers at be realise it is in spite of the p1ss poor handling of this case and not because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) The survey showed that 94 per cent of tourists from the United Kingdom have knowledge of the murder, against 73 per cent in other European countries, such as Austria, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands. Why not from Burma? Tourists, not all-but-slave labour. The concern in this survey is clearly more about how tourist revenue is being effected. In that equation Burmese don't matter. Edited October 21, 2014 by Bluespunk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I think apart from catching the real killers a high % keeping tabs want to see the RTP lies and BS put in their place with a few sacked or charged and the whole scandal blow up in their face. Of course a lot are watching and paying attn due to the constant FUBAR and BS spouted on a daily basis, it has an "you have to read it to believe it" appeal thats hard to ignore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I shouldn't think the Koh Tao murders would influence tourist destinations , most would say Koh Tao who , what you do have is tourists that have knowledge of other happenings in Thailand and have altered their destination , people can see B/S when it is laced on thick and that is some thing TAT needs to be well aware of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Here we go again!! Paying attention to the most important issue in this country. The holy tourist$ !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krenjai Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I do hope once this is all over and tourism returns, that the powers at be realise it is in spite of the p1ss poor handling of this case and not because of it. This case is never over until the real killers are behind bars IMO... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffaarraanngg Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ive relatives who are 18 and may do the backpacking thing in the next few years, if asked i most certainly wouldn't recommend Thailand to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The survey showed that 94 per cent of tourists from the United Kingdom have knowledge of the murder, against 73 per cent in other European countries, such as Austria, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands. Why not from Burma? Because they are not relevant to the tourism sector... simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I do hope once this is all over and tourism returns, that the powers at be realise it is in spite of the p1ss poor handling of this case and not because of it. This case is never over until the real killers are behind bars IMO... "...until the real killers are behind bars" Whose bar? Do you have any idea how ironic that statement actually is considering the location of the victims prior to the incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Do the Thai nation really know the definition of %?, I am not sure they do.....and I include the people whom conduct these surveys. Yes Thai do know %. It is the amount extra they can charge foreigners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I do hope once this is all over and tourism returns, that the powers at be realise it is in spite of the p1ss poor handling of this case and not because of it. Jeremy I really think that tourism will NOT return as powerful as it was. Thailand has competition without these scandals elsewhere in cheaper places. Thailand and people thinking this is going to blow over may see something else over the horizon. The actual Europeans coming here - these that spend lots of money - are dropping each year. People have had enough and in these harsh economic times, people are really looking at options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Here we go again!! Paying attention to the most important issue in this country. The holy tourist$ !! xpost-41405-0-51306500-1413798360_thumb_jpg_pagespeed_ic_xOjn-V0L86.jpg It is the single most important thing for the many average people here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monty1412 Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'd like to see what the survey questions were , answers you get from a survey can be very much predicated by the questions and how they are positioned Example Do you like to take vacation in exotic tropical locations .... most will answer YES In choosing a vacation location how important is personal safety for you and your family.... most will answer VERY Are you aware of the recent attack and murder of the two English backpackers at Khao Tao Thailand ... most will answer YES How likely is it that this and the questionable handling of this horrific case would affect your decision about taking vacation in Thailand.... most will answer DEFINITELY/ PROBABLY Do you like to take vacation in exotic tropical locations... most will answer YES In choosing a vacation location is the Kingdom of Thailand on your list of possible spots .. most will answer YES/ or PROBABLY Given that the political protests there have stopped and Thailand is still one of the top tourist destinations in the world.. would you have any concerns in choosing Thailand ....... most will answer NOT REALLY/ NO /SOME WILL MENTION THE MURDERS Given the recent Kao Tao situation in which the Burmese perpetrators have been apprehended by the Thai police, does this give you confidence to visit Thailand ......some will say / whats kao tao / don't know/ yes/ no / crimes happen everywhere sort of thing Certainly in the former example you have a far higher chance of getting a stronger negative influence score than the latter Surveys are very rarely balanced in their construction and quite often the lean or angle is determined by the desired result 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The manic Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 Years ago some places had a bad reputation amongst young travellers, places like Singapore, Turkey and Malaysia. Their harsh laws and corrupt/ or over zealous police were off putting. They will never get their reputations back. Neither will Kabul or Peshawar but they were tourist places in the late 60s and 70s. The combination of harsh laws, corrupt police and and vicious jails just make everybody think of Midnight Express, the moveie in which American cops are working with Turkish cops and criminals to fit up young tourists. That's what Thailand looks like to me- extracts from Midnight Express. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Peshawar was great even in the 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) In 6 to 24 months? Unfortunately no matter which way the decision goes this case will be long forgotten by the and replaced with didn't something happen there sometime ago. Plenty of nasty things have happen in the past that have been forgotten. <<<< Off topic deflection comments removed >>>> Business as usual in those places. I think you might be wrong in this case. I certainly can't remember a case with quite as much coverage as this both domestically and internationally, every time there's a new news item on thaivisa there are pages of comments and a month on it's not abated. Maybe it's the impact of social media but this just seems different. Edited October 21, 2014 by metisdead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 In 6 to 24 months? Unfortunately no matter which way the decision goes this case will be long forgotten by the and replaced with didn't something happen there sometime ago. Plenty of nasty things have happen in the past that have been forgotten. <<<< Off topic deflection comments removed >>>> Business as usual in those places. I think you might be wrong in this case. I certainly can't remember a case with quite as much coverage as this both domestically and internationally, every time there's a new news item on thaivisa there are pages of comments and a month on it's not abated. Maybe it's the impact of social media but this just seems different. I agree. This case ain't going away. People have finally had enough. Even the Thai are embarrassed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 New York had to work really hard to gets it reputation back. It's the same in Thailand now. The backpackers and bohemians of today are the bourgeois of tomorrow. Any negative unjust experiences will last generations. Thailand has become to dangerous with bent cops, military rule and mafia influences. Some third world places are/were fun. But Thailand is less fun, more joyless but still just a third world dictatorship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Years ago some places had a bad reputation amongst young travellers, places like Singapore, Turkey and Malaysia. Their harsh laws and corrupt/ or over zealous police were off putting. They will never get their reputations back. Neither will Kabul or Peshawar but they were tourist places in the late 60s and 70s. The combination of harsh laws, corrupt police and and vicious jails just make everybody think of Midnight Express, the moveie in which American cops are working with Turkish cops and criminals to fit up young tourists. That's what Thailand looks like to me- extracts from Midnight Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Up until recently i hadn't heard of the past "unsolved" murder cases, I have been following the Koh Tao case as are many people around the world. I think this one is different and will have a more profound effect on Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Koh Tao case influences tourist mood and right so btw. I could not make the letters smaller I apologize Edited October 21, 2014 by metisdead Fixed it for you, font reset to default forum font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPiPuPePo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'd like to see what the survey questions were , answers you get from a survey can be very much predicated by the questions and how they are positioned Example Do you like to take vacation in exotic tropical locations .... most will answer YES In choosing a vacation location how important is personal safety for you and your family.... most will answer VERY Are you aware of the recent attack and murder of the two English backpackers at Khao Tao Thailand ... most will answer YES How likely is it that this and the questionable handling of this horrific case would affect your decision about taking vacation in Thailand.... most will answer DEFINITELY/ PROBABLY Do you like to take vacation in exotic tropical locations... most will answer YES In choosing a vacation location is the Kingdom of Thailand on your list of possible spots .. most will answer YES/ or PROBABLY Given that the political protests there have stopped and Thailand is still one of the top tourist destinations in the world.. would you have any concerns in choosing Thailand ....... most will answer NOT REALLY/ NO /SOME WILL MENTION THE MURDERS Given the recent Kao Tao situation in which the Burmese perpetrators have been apprehended by the Thai police, does this give you confidence to visit Thailand ......some will say / whats kao tao / don't know/ yes/ no / crimes happen everywhere sort of thing Certainly in the former example you have a far higher chance of getting a stronger negative influence score than the latter Surveys are very rarely balanced in their construction and quite often the lean or angle is determined by the desired result Smells of concern trolling. That could go either way and you acknowledge that implicitly, which is classic poor reasoning or trolling. Your post adds no info, only sows confusion. Was that your goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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