24-year-old British woman dies at beauty treatment clinic in Bangkok

[Strangebrew]

Firstly I have a big nose I never would change the way I look if people don't like the way I look tough luck and move on. But young who passed away because of vanity RIP. Beauty is skin deep.

[earthpig]

But Brits are raised on the fable of a competent properly-funded well-equipped patient-focused national health-service, they ought to know better, and be just a tad more cynical/worldly.

Last I looked, the NHS had a five year cancer survival rate that was 15-20% rate lower than in the USA. That translated into some 6,000 needless deaths per year, all sacrificed on the altar of socialist fantasy. But what is even more stunning than NHS incompetence is the blind ignorance displayed by many Brits in not understanding how poor their system is, at least on this comparison, with that of other countries. British health care, it turns out, is indeed a pretty good primer for private health care in Thailand.

[loongdavid]

When will Thais ever get it through their thick heads that their culture of utter lies and cover ups, bribery, blind love for their elites, and corruption has destroyed its society and will continue to do so unless they do something about it.

The subject has really and truly brought out some of the most ridiculous and insulting posts for quite some time. Yet another poster that deems it necessary to insult the very people who have invited him into their home/community/country.

[Bluespunk]

What precisely was the procedure she was having?

Guardian says liposuction. Also claiming BIB said the doctor was unqualified to carry out the procedure.

Edited October 25, 2014 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

"Dr Boonrueng Trairuangworawat, director general of Health Service Support department said that initial investigation found that the clinic and the doctors of SP Clinic in Soi Lardprao 41/1 have license and permits."

Though apparently not always the qualifications for the type of operations they were doing.

[daveAustin]

But Brits are raised on the fable of a competent properly-funded well-equipped patient-focused national health-service, they ought to know better, and be just a tad more cynical/worldly.

Last I looked, the NHS had a five year cancer survival rate that was 15-20% rate lower than in the USA. That translated into some 6,000 needless deaths per year, all sacrificed on the altar of socialist fantasy. But what is even more stunning than NHS incompetence is the blind ignorance displayed by many Brits in not understanding how poor their system is, at least on this comparison, with that of other countries. British health care, it turns out, is indeed a pretty good primer for private health care in Thailand.

Wow, the yanks really do hate that other 'lesser' countries get free healthcare!

[daveAustin]

But Brits are raised on the fable of a competent properly-funded well-equipped patient-focused national health-service, they ought to know better, and be just a tad more cynical/worldly.

Fable?

So this is on the lady for being British and not astute enough to realise that she is in a third world country and should thus know better... as opposed to the clinic being incompetent for killing her? Jeez, some people!

Guess what, I am British and am very cynical and would never go to such a place, in your country even. Does that shatter your bigoted view of others?

[Bkklocal]

He practiced surgery with out a surgical license.

If that happened in Australia game over , never allowed to practice again as well as jail term. Yet alone a death.

http://siam247.com/the-nation-news/2510-another-plastic-surgery-patient-dies

Thainess. His partner had the certification and he stands there doing it trying to tell people it was done accordinly, retarded. Wow. No license. Game over. Only in Thailand do you get this. People thinking its ok when you don't actually have a license to do it. Huge offence.

And yes I did spell this out a little more for those scim reading trolls saying it happens everywhere - not the no licence part. It doesn't happen.

There is a blog on this guy warning people of him , been around for a while.

[Searat7]

"Sompob Sansiri, the doctor who performed the operations, was not certified for cosmetic surgery"

For some reason the local news fail to mention that the Dr was uncertified, just that he was charged for negligence. Well in a way it is kind of the same thing. However I doubt that it will help Thailands reputation as an affordable cosmetic "hub" if question start arising if their surgens are certified.

http://www.nst.com.my/node/45743

[linne16]

When the article says "tailbone" I assume they mean "coccyx" - e.g. were they operating on the spine?

Why was this woman not being operated on at home?

What had been the advice from her GP/consultant in UK?

Was she aware of how dangerous a general anaesthetic can be?

it is not a surgery for the coccyx... this clinic offers only cosmetic surgery...

what i'm wondering about is, how come the surgical team never noticed her vital signs dropping coz from their statements, they just said she couldn't be roused after the surgery so they called the police

[Searat7]

This doctor had all kinds of certifications on his website and I saw them displayed in his clinic too....maybe they are all bogus. Now I am understanding why I had so many problems after my surgery there last month....any many pictures to prove it. Still trying to recover....How can Thailand's health department let a clinic operate for 11 years ? He was the only doctor there and he owned the clinic.

[smedly]

There should be 2x specialist people performing this procedure along with trained theatre nurses , the surgeon (who we have already discovered was unqualified) and more importantly an Anesthesiologist who we have heard little about - that is of course if there actually was one present - I suspect probably not

[ExPratt]

Its all a load of Botox , if you ask me

[mike324]

This could have happened anywhere in the world, a famous american woman died in th US the same way, please stop all the Thai bashing .

It is not Thai bashing to point out the inherent dangers involved in undegoing elective surgery in a potentially unsafe environment

Agree, the clinic could have been license and able to do the procedures, but they did break the law by having overnight patient. I read on a news source saying the clinic was not registered or allow to have overnight patients. Not to mention if they were even allow to perform the certain procedure, I won't jump the gun too quick. I also read the brit had her tailbone fix at a beauty clinic, which sounded odd.

[smedly]

This doctor had all kinds of certifications on his website and I saw them displayed in his clinic too....maybe they are all bogus. Now I am understanding why I had so many problems after my surgery there last month....any many pictures to prove it. Still trying to recover....How can Thailand's health department let a clinic operate for 11 years ? He was the only doctor there and he owned the clinic.

People come here and assume that Thailand has standards like we do in the west - unfortunately that is not the case

They will advertise and talk a good system but the reality is it doesn't exist, there is no effective infrastructure here to ensure standards and safety and if you end up with a nose with one nostril you have no way to sue

Not so long ago there was a statement about Thailand being some sort of medical/Healthcare "HUB" in SEA.............these are words and nothing more - it seems that Thais believe if they talk something up enough that not only will they believe it but so will everyone else

This is a 3rd world country and no matter how much talking they do it will not change that - their industries - technology - infrastructure are completely reliant on foreign expertise - the only thing they actually do for themselves is grow stuff out of the ground

someone coming here for surgery in a backstreet clinic needs their head examined

[smedly]

This could have happened anywhere in the world, a famous american woman died in th US the same way, please stop all the Thai bashing .

It is not Thai bashing to point out the inherent dangers involved in undegoing elective surgery in a potentially unsafe environment

Agree, the clinic could have been license and able to do the procedures, but they did break the law by having overnight patient. I read on a news source saying the clinic was not registered or allow to have overnight patients. Not to mention if they were even allow to perform the certain procedure, I won't jump the gun too quick. I also read the brit had her tailbone fix at a beauty clinic, which sounded odd.

as stated in the recent news article - the clinic was licenced in name only by a doctor that didn't actually work there most likely bought for a handsome sum - greed has no boundaries in thailand

[Johnnie99]

It's no uncommon for people to die when having general anesthetic. People die all over the world this way, every day of the week. Best to wait until this is investigated before jumping to conclusions, as many on here are. It could well just be a tragic accident.

To quote Stuart Bloom, 'You couldn't be more wrong'.

Anaesthesia, when administered under the best professional (and professionally trained) circumstances, is an incredibly safe event. To state that people die every day as a result is complete nonsense.

And yes, I am a doctor.

[Evolare]

There is always a risk of death when using anesthetics. I have gone through a few sportsinjury related surgeries but when possible I have always chosen a sedatives and local anesthesia if possible because of the risks, better safe than sorry.

Also my ex and her sister used SP clinic's services and only have good things to say about them.

[empireboy]

Condolences to family and friends.

[wilcopops]

"How you equate being "...very naive..." with giving a truthful account of one particular procedure beats the hell out of me. Surely if you live and work in Thailand this is your HOME! It is home for me and I would not hesitate for one minute to be admitted into any of the hospitals I have dealt with thus far. Your rather condescending remarks about being uneducated etc etc. give me the impression you are trying to make Thailand into something it is not. If things are that bad for you I think it's time for you to leave HOME and go to that other HOME you have."

The fact that you have made subjective judgements indicates how naive you have been. The fact that you wouldn't hesitate to be admitted to "any of the hospitals"shows how naive you are, and she I'm in need of medical care, I want to get there best and most reliable regardless of where I happen to be....I first came to Thailand in 1994, it's my place of work and I've grown out of viewing the place through rose tinted spectacles of ignorance a long time ago.......it looks like you need a dose of healthcare negligence to bring yourself out of the mists of la-la land...and a very naive definition of "home".

How regrettable that once again we at TV are subjected to a poster who finds it necessary that in order to presume to gain the ascendancy in an argument resorts to personal abuse.

It may come as a surprise to you but a truthful and first hand account equates to an objective assessment. You are just not worth any further effort of striking the keyboard.

It's not a personal attack - it's an assessment of the value of your post - the poster is the one who decided to take it personally

Edited October 25, 2014 by wilcopops

[fabphil]

One MUST always check back ground on intended use of surgeons in this and any other country, there is plenty of previous feed back on this jerk for botched surgery...just do ur homework..

[SunsetT]

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RIP. Brits and Burmese should think twice before coming to Thailand.

Quite frankly the whole country could do with a shake up. People need to know this host country is one of the most dangerous countries to visit. More needs to be done to stop brits from travelling to thailand. They don't deserve our custom.

OK well you lead the exodus and we'll be right behind ya.

Damn, I genuinely thought that "General Topics" was the where the weirdos and neo-con mutant puritans hung out but it turns out that "News" is where the real cuckoos are.;b++){var>

One guy's slating the deceased for being vain when she was having a hip op - presumably to relieve some kind of pain; 10 posters have "liked" this odious post; a couple of others are suggesting that having an op at 11pm means she bears some of the blame for her own demise and one thoroughly idiotic post suggests that the deceased may have deserved her fate because she wasn't a "quality" tourist.

Just for info. my missus says Thai TV news stated she was having silicone implants removed -from her buttocks I presume. 11pm op. may be because anaesthetists, like many Thai doctors and their private evening street clinics, work in the hospitals during the day. So they are only available for private work in the evening. This op. being so late may explain if and why mistakes were made.

[culicine]

RIP to the victim. I hope justice will prevail, but I highly doubt any wrongdoer will see any jail time for this.

I think that's one thing I have accepted for a while. If something happens to me, I will accept justice will not be carried out fairly and transparently. Life is cheap in Thailand.

[Thai at Heart]

But Brits are raised on the fable of a competent properly-funded well-equipped patient-focused national health-service, they ought to know better, and be just a tad more cynical/worldly.

Last I looked, the NHS had a five year cancer survival rate that was 15-20% rate lower than in the USA. That translated into some 6,000 needless deaths per year, all sacrificed on the altar of socialist fantasy. But what is even more stunning than NHS incompetence is the blind ignorance displayed by many Brits in not understanding how poor their system is, at least on this comparison, with that of other countries. British health care, it turns out, is indeed a pretty good primer for private health care in Thailand.

There is however an astonishing stat that I will find u that illustrated beautifully that the.NHS represents thr best value mkneyncan buy in health care.

America.spends an inordinate amount of money on healthcare in comparison with the UK. If u want to go private, go private. I consider the NHS one of the most civilising aspects about the UK.

It is a wonder.

[Jim walker]

RIP to the poor 24 YO Brit lady but Who in their right mind would come to a third world country to get cosmetic surgery done I think only people who are looking at the cost savings compared to their home country would come here for surgery

[CapGary]

A wake up call for all lady's trying to look pretty just for us guys ..Just don't do it we are not worth your death..RIP.

Load of tosh, it's a personal decision which men make as well in case you haven't noticed. Severely outdated view of things and incredibly insulting to women!

[mike324]

This could have happened anywhere in the world, a famous american woman died in th US the same way, please stop all the Thai bashing .

It is not Thai bashing to point out the inherent dangers involved in undegoing elective surgery in a potentially unsafe environment

Agree, the clinic could have been license and able to do the procedures, but they did break the law by having overnight patient. I read on a news source saying the clinic was not registered or allow to have overnight patients. Not to mention if they were even allow to perform the certain procedure, I won't jump the gun too quick. I also read the brit had her tailbone fix at a beauty clinic, which sounded odd.

as stated in the recent news article - the clinic was licenced in name only by a doctor that didn't actually work there most likely bought for a handsome sum - greed has no boundaries in thailand

thanks for the update, I didn't pick that up.

[Jim walker]

She was reported to have been unhappy with the initial results and was having corrective work to her tailbone area.

The doctor who performed the surgery, did not have the correct certification.

just been reading this on Sky News page

http://news.sky.com/story/1359465/briton-dies-during-bangkok-cosmetic-surgery

[Soiyamoto]

"But Brits are raised on the fable of a competent properly-funded well-equipped patient-focused national health-service, they ought to know better, and be just a tad more cynical/worldly".

Oh! to be wise after the event!............. and what's this "...they ought to know better..." The girl was 24 for gods sake and her looks were probably all she thought about and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the NHS. Yet another poster who equates all of Britain with one poor unfortunate incident.

there are TONNES of posts all over the net warning about healthcare in Thailand....anyone thinking of having stuff done should do as much research as possible. she may have been waiting in a queue in UK or something like that - just speculation at present, but others need to heed this warning and seriously consider what they are doing.

...and there are most likely many, many more satisfied patients that have had successful surgery in Thailand. I doubt if you would hear many negative stories from farang who have made Thailand their home. I am one example and I cannot speak highly enough of the hospital, surgical team and nurses where I had treatment. However, the food was bloody awful.

Have to say that seems to be a very naive attitude. Of course tree are loads of "satisfied" patients - in ANY healthcare industry the majority of people come out the other end "relived" - of course they have no way of knowing if everything went smoothly or even that they got the most appropriate treatment.

As for those living in Thailand - I live and work in Thailand and frequently in healthcare, which is precisely why I would NEVER purposely have any serious treatment on a voluntary basis in this country.

just look at those who elect to come here - it's either from a country where the healthcare system is in crisis or very expensive of for non-essential procedures or they live here and have no option - most are also very uneducated she it comes to healthcare and suffer from an extraordinary blind faith in what they perceive as "doctors"

If you have a problem get treated at HOME! it may cost more - unless you are from Europe, but you'll be much safer.

. Uneducated eh?

How you equate being "...very naive..." with giving a truthful account of one particular procedure beats the hell out of me. Surely if you live and work in Thailand this is your HOME! It is home for me and I would not hesitate for one minute to be admitted into any of the hospitals I have dealt with thus far. Your rather condescending remarks about being uneducated etc etc. give me the impression you are trying to make Thailand into something it is not. If things are that bad for you I think it's time for you to leave HOME and go to that other HOME you have.

[Wat dee]

At 11 pm at night there may be the possibility that there was alcohol in her blood stream when the anesthetic was administered...not a good combination. May she rest in peace and her family find all the help they need. Hardly an occasion for smart allicy posts.

Too late!