Prayut must stay on as PM until problems solved: survey

[Commerce]

Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

"I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!"

Since you are referring to a biblical character and "saviour", it may be worth remembering the fate of that good man.

Do you think Thailand's saviour is heading in the same direction?

Always look on the bright side of life.

Dum, Tee Dum, Dee Dum tee Dum Tee Dum.

[nolabuff]

Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

The problem with your view is that you, rightfully, point out that many members of the PTP government were incompetent. At the same time, you're willing to put full faith in a bunch of generals to dictate education, water management, agricultural, and transportation policies. What makes them qualified? Cabinet positions for whatever government is in power are simply political gifts, yet you'll argue that one side is "morally" better than the other and that will lead to better governance. Partisan politics at its worst.

[ginjag]

Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

The problem with your view is that you, rightfully, point out that many members of the PTP government were incompetent. At the same time, you're willing to put full faith in a bunch of generals to dictate education, water management, agricultural, and transportation policies. What makes them qualified? Cabinet positions for whatever government is in power are simply political gifts, yet you'll argue that one side is "morally" better than the other and that will lead to better governance. Partisan politics at its worst.

Time is what I am giving them only.

Their action will tell us if they qualify.

I am saying the last Shin regime was found to be badly flawed--the PM was incompetent-her hand picked cabinet proved they were unfit people.

1 year I will come to the conclusions if good or not------not 3 years of PTP.

[recycled]

At his rate of failure thus far, we will have to wait for his funeral.

[PREM-R]

The problem with your view is that you, rightfully, point out that many members of the PTP government were incompetent. At the same time, you're willing to put full faith in a bunch of generals to dictate education, water management, agricultural, and transportation policies. What makes them qualified? Cabinet positions for whatever government is in power are simply political gifts, yet you'll argue that one side is "morally" better than the other and that will lead to better governance. Partisan politics at its worst.

Time is what I am giving them only.

Their action will tell us if they qualify.

I am saying the last Shin regime was found to be badly flawed--the PM was incompetent-her hand picked cabinet proved they were unfit people.

1 year I will come to the conclusions if good or not------not 3 years of PTP.

"Time is what I am giving them only."

And when you decide 'time is up' what are you going to do to remove them? Did you not notice that they gained power at the point of a gun? The difference between PTP and 'Junta' is that PTP could be removed at an election every 4 years, the army have the job until they decide they don't want it, nothing you, or anybody else can do about it.

[T_Dog]

ABC News ran a story the other day and it appears being a problem solver is lucrative.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/thai-prime-minister-general-millionaire-26600607

[slipperx]

The general does not have enough years left to solve the problems Thailand has. Their problems stem from their culture and lackadaisical attitude to society and education. It will take generations to solve but he has a chance to set the wheels in motion. If only he would release the brake and tackle corruption now

[Commerce]

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

The problem with your view is that you, rightfully, point out that many members of the PTP government were incompetent. At the same time, you're willing to put full faith in a bunch of generals to dictate education, water management, agricultural, and transportation policies. What makes them qualified? Cabinet positions for whatever government is in power are simply political gifts, yet you'll argue that one side is "morally" better than the other and that will lead to better governance. Partisan politics at its worst.

Time is what I am giving them only.

Their action will tell us if they qualify.

I am saying the last Shin regime was found to be badly flawed--the PM was incompetent-her hand picked cabinet proved they were unfit people.

1 year I will come to the conclusions if good or not------not 3 years of PTP.

Something missing here ginjag.

You say you give time, yet we all know the damage done 'before' and 'during' PTP being ousted, we knew it was happening, yet MOST also understood it was happening and did SFA, and now the consequences of such actions, having destroyed the rice farming exports (despite recent claims that Th will soon be #1 exporter again), simply as one example, are manifesting in all sorts of areas of destruction.

When you refer to the current junta, in that you will wait a year, how do you assess the same damage is not being done behind the scenes? Education being a primary example. A General of the Thai Army is now education minister - can you assert he has a single clue about how to run a national curriculum, and understand it deeply? What about the damage done to children in 1 year, considering that, IMHO, he hasn't got a clue about what he is doing?

Wouldn't you sooner see people in positions of expertise inculcating such expertise into such areas, right NOW? as opposed to waiting the aftermath of Army rule, and more than likely further turmoil down the line, when it comes to professionalism and the implementation of totally dictatorial and misunderstood doctrines?

You seem to be totally sucked into this Junta malarky, and into believing that they are there in all honesty to serve and protect.

Why wait a year to see what further damage may be inflicted upon Thailand by a self-elected lot?

Their personal assets are reflective of their aims, as if they didn't have so much they could be construed as 'honest'. However, that is not the case, as clearly exposed.

[smutcakes]

ABC News ran a story the other day and it appears being a problem solver is lucrative.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/thai-prime-minister-general-millionaire-26600607

Wow, just wow. He transferred nearly 15 million dollars!! to family members.

Simply crazy how anyone still believes these guys are any different to what has gone before.

Nearly every single army General is a dollar millionaire, and some way way over that.

Where can i sign up!

[nolabuff]

Time is what I am giving them only.

Their action will tell us if they qualify.

I am saying the last Shin regime was found to be badly flawed--the PM was incompetent-her hand picked cabinet proved they were unfit people.

1 year I will come to the conclusions if good or not------not 3 years of PTP.

Yes, we know you hate Thaksin and the PTP, but try to justify the junta's actions without mentioning their name.

The junta has been in power for six months now and what have they done? "Cleaned up" some beaches, which are reportedly the same now as they were before. Paid off some farmers with what is definitely not populist policies according to them. Evicted some poor farmers off their land, while leaving the underlying issue unaddressed. What am I missing?

The government is run by a bunch of multimillionaire career military officers. GDP growth is inching backwards towards 1%, a paltry number for an emerging Asian economy. Tourist arrivals are falling and the only solution the junta can come up with is imposing a curfew on the Burmese. Foreign investors, who initially cheered the coup, are becoming increasingly worried about the nationalism and xenophobia exhibited by the policy makers as seen by the BP article this morning. The international community is shunning Prayut, refusing to give him the time of day when he traveled to Italy. The war in the south rages on. Transparency, the key to decreasing corruption, remains non-existent.

What is it that gives you confidence in their ability? Again, this question is about the current government, not the former.

[jaidam]

ABC News ran a story the other day and it appears being a problem solver is lucrative.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/thai-prime-minister-general-millionaire-26600607

Wow, just wow. He transferred nearly 15 million dollars!! to family members.

Simply crazy how anyone still believes these guys are any different to what has gone before.

Nearly every single army General is a dollar millionaire, and some way way over that.

Where can i sign up!

How do you expect the general's family to enjoy their sudden windfall if members of the public start gossiping and criticizing his wealth(and how amazing it is on a small govt salary).

His mate Somyot, the police chief, also had a recent windfall, revealed when he splurged out 400 odd million baht on the stock exchange.I suppose we will never know the source of these 2 individuals staggering and unexplainable wealth.

Now I wonder which high profile family have recently "lost" the billion baht that these 2 found?

[Zooheekock]

what credentials did they have

Do schools no longer exist? They had their electoral mandate.

You and your elk

Elk? I guess that answers my first question.

[Zooheekock]

her hand picked cabinet

What? An elected Prime Minister with a parliamentary majority picked her own cabinet? What new level of outrage is this? Do these people know no limits? Give these people an inch and they'll take a mile. Mark my words; they'll be trying to implement their own policies if this isn't taken in hand.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Zooheekock

[pisico]

I would give him a maximum of one year. If by Nov 1 2015, he has not made some serious inroads into reforming the RTP (disbanding, and starting over from scratch, would probably be better) and tackling the corruption of the last government (that means arrests and prosecutions, preferably followed by a few Chinese style executions), then I would toss him out on his ear.

So far the prospects of him doing anything substantial seem very dim indeed.

Agree totally, apart from your last sentence--one minute you want to give him benefit of the doubt, and now you say the prospects are DIM. why not wait the full year I'm with you on that one.

You give him one year? How presumptuous!

He took his tenure and will stay on until he has his fill and passes the baton.

Has nothing to do with what we Farangs want. You think anybody in government past and present cares one iota about what our opinion is?

We are, at best, tolerated observers in this country.

[RustBucket]

Until all problems resolved???

So forever then.

[yellowboat]

Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

If you sweep into power by force, your accountability should be higher than that of an elected government. Elected governments are voted in and out by the populous. Juntas take power away and do not earn it, so they start from a negative position and are rightly criticized more.

[sjaak327]

Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

At the end of the day all you are doing is looking for silly excuses. It does not change the fact that Yingluck and PT received 48% of the popular vote, real people voting for them not some fabricated opinion pole. Please don't even mention credentials as the current lot have none other than being part of the militairy, which from past experience is worthless when one looks for people running a government. Or did you forget their poor record the last time ?

[sjaak327]

I would give him a maximum of one year. If by Nov 1 2015, he has not made some serious inroads into reforming the RTP (disbanding, and starting over from scratch, would probably be better) and tackling the corruption of the last government (that means arrests and prosecutions, preferably followed by a few Chinese style executions), then I would toss him out on his ear.

So far the prospects of him doing anything substantial seem very dim indeed.

Agree totally, apart from your last sentence--one minute you want to give him benefit of the doubt, and now you say the prospects are DIM. why not wait the full year I'm with you on that one.

You give him one year? How presumptuous!

He took his tenure and will stay on until he has his fill and passes the baton.

Has nothing to do with what we Farangs want. You think anybody in government past and present cares one iota about what our opinion is?

We are, at best, tolerated observers in this country.

In this case being a foreigner doesn't matter neither does being Thai. That alone should at least be some food for thought don't you think.

[cmsally]

Would that be an election with a vote on the complete legislature or with partial selection. Because basically what we are headed for is a partial democracy. How partial remains to be seen, as well as the time frame regarding any kind of democracy rather than the present situation.

[BirdsandBooze]

63.6% of 626 people surveyed means that 398 of them want PM Prayuth to stay on. Polls like this conducted among such a small group of people serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever. A waste of money better spent on worthwhile projects that will return a little happiness.

[ChrisY1]

ABC News ran a story the other day and it appears being a problem solver is lucrative.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/thai-prime-minister-general-millionaire-26600607

Well...no-one heard about the other 400 Million transfered prior his having declare his assets......so just over 1/2 billion baht.....on a salary of 1.4 m/pa.....fantastic savings!

[Thanet]

Prayuth is worth about the same as Yingluck, at around 600 million Baht.

Being an honest general, Prayuth would of course have saved this money from his army salary of 117,000 Baht per month.

Yingluck, on the other hand, having been the CEO of AIS, would have surely amassed her similar fortune by corrupt methods.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Thanet

[jpeg]

Putting people on the ignore list defies the purpose of a forum. It's something a child would do, a grown up tries to discuss and bring in arguments to support their case

Completely disagree. Before spam filters became much more efficient, an inbox would be stuffed with them. You'd read and argue the toss with everyone from Nigeria re the provenance of their granny's inaccessible bank account?

BTW You ever tried arguing with a Jehova's Witness/Mormon?

[Thailand]

The PM can stay as long as he wishes and appoint/ remove whomever he wishes. That is what comes with absolute power.

And please do not put Ginjag on your ignore list you will simply lose an amusing source of entertainment.

[sjaak327]

Putting people on the ignore list defies the purpose of a forum. It's something a child would do, a grown up tries to discuss and bring in arguments to support their case

Completely disagree. Before spam filters became much more efficient, an inbox would be stuffed with them. You'd read and argue the toss with everyone from Nigeria re the provenance of their granny's inaccessible bank account?

BTW You ever tried arguing with a Jehova's Witness/Mormon?

As someone who runs several mail gateways I know a thing or two about email spam.

I do not believe posts of other members which I might disagree with to be spam. Ignoring these defies the purpose of a forum.

I am sure that TV has server side measures to prevent or clean actual spam from the boards.

[nolabuff]

Better you apologists get a hate the PM forum. Argue among yourselves you soon will get fed up with each of your boring posts.

Please ALL of you apologists put me on you ignore list. ALL of you sad expats. If you put me on your list you will not have comments from me, Mostly I contradict your posts. Rarely do I see a good post from you guys-only a slagging match aimed at the PM-------to sum up, how the heck dare you when you had PTP do this to the country.

This should then see a stop to the replies as I will be on ALL your ignore lists.

All our positive thinking posters will also benefit from being on your ignore lists.---Do you all see it is our majority of TVF posters that are feeding you all the fodder you thrive on.

You certainly didn't answer my question and you're back to mentioning the PTP. Besides not being Thaksin, what has Prayut done that shows you he will improve Thailand? You have no answer as of now.

[The stuttering parrot]

I couldn't put you on my ignore list ginjag as I find you a source of amusement!

Actually I thought I was on yours like so many others are supposed to be but then again what would you do with your day?

Anyways the only poll that counts is the one on Election Day and the general who wasn't going to have a coup or become PM so looks like it's going to be awhile.

[nolabuff]

I couldn't put you on my ignore list ginjag as I find you a source of amusement!

Actually I thought I was on yours like so many others are supposed to be but then again what would you do with your day?

Anyways the only poll that counts is the one on Election Day and the general who wasn't going to have a coup or become PM so looks like it's going to be awhile.

He's now clamoring for an election apparently while giving the junta at least one more year. Instead of addressing his contradictions, he simply moves on to another one.

[Prbkk]

Must have better investment strategies than Warren Buffett.

[Halion]

All very interesting however,all of these developments instituted by our new PM have little to do with the mandate he used to declare the coup.

We have seen little actions dealing with malfeasance, ineptitude and corruption. His main activities could be deemed populist and aimed at the red shirt /Thaksanites. Looks like he is more interested in gaining popularity than he is in the surgical removal of nepotism and corruption.