Ace of Pop Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The old 2litre loved a drink.[emoji482] the newer 1.8 is much better on E85 but top fuel is little or no saving I've found.E85 was 18.75 yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The old 2litre loved a drink.[emoji482] the newer 1.8 is much better on E85 but top fuel is little or no saving I've found.E85 was 18.75 yesterday. and the 1.8 of the hrv is more efficient than that in the civic due to the cvt (and faster to 100 km/h as well). The 2.0 surely does drink a lot, but I generally drive it only on the weekends now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juehoe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Have you tested the accuracy of the readings? Record how much is put in, drive, and return the the same pump and refill. I found my meter is about 6% optimistic - my FC is slightly worse than showing on my meter. The calculated fuel consumption (kilometres and litres) after a fill-up are not the same as on the board computer, indeed. 6% is also about my experience. I use the board computer date for comparison of different drive style and traffic situations and not the absolute values. The new Mazda Skyactive engines are far more efficient than the old Ford technology. After 1 year with the new Mazda 3 and now the CX-3 I would say that the new engines are 20–25% more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juehoe Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I know many foreigner, who bought a Honda Freed, instead of a small crossover. It is a different approach, but a quite interesting package for people who look for a lot of space on a small footprint. The riding position is higher than the Mazda CX-3. The ground clearance is also quite good. The space inside is enormous and the powered sliding door extremely practical. I also look at the Honda Freed, when it was introduced. But it is underpowered, I don't like the CVT and cost more than 1 million Baht the first years. Will we see, if Honda will keep in the production line and introduce a new model, with more power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Why they use those stupid names like Skyactive is not informative. Just state BHP,CC,Turbo,Petrol or Diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I know many foreigner, who bought a Honda Freed, instead of a small crossover. It is a different approach, but a quite interesting package for people who look for a lot of space on a small footprint. The riding position is higher than the Mazda CX-3. The ground clearance is also quite good. The space inside is enormous and the powered sliding door extremely practical. I also look at the Honda Freed, when it was introduced. But it is underpowered, I don't like the CVT and cost more than 1 million Baht the first years. Will we see, if Honda will keep in the production line and introduce a new model, with more power. Have you seen the new honda br-v. It also has 1.5+cvt, 5 or 7 seat configurations. It's really a jacked up jazz. The interior is like the jazz too. I think it's in the 700-800K range. I don't like that big single rear door on the freed, and it's quite expensive like you said. A few parents at my school use a freed - good for school runs I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The old 2litre loved a drink.[emoji482] the newer 1.8 is much better on E85 but top fuel is little or no saving I've found.E85 was 18.75 yesterday. and the 1.8 of the hrv is more efficient than that in the civic due to the cvt (and faster to 100 km/h as well). The 2.0 surely does drink a lot, but I generally drive it only on the weekends now. Ive got the 2 and the cvt isnt faster over the marker posts i use to test all rides to 120.Cant stand the noisy 17inch Dunlops if i used it every day id have to get Mich. Otherwise i like the HR. its a chirpy wee ting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The old 2litre loved a drink.[emoji482] the newer 1.8 is much better on E85 but top fuel is little or no saving I've found.E85 was 18.75 yesterday. and the 1.8 of the hrv is more efficient than that in the civic due to the cvt (and faster to 100 km/h as well). The 2.0 surely does drink a lot, but I generally drive it only on the weekends now. Ive got the 2 and the cvt isnt faster over the marker posts i use to test all rides to 120.Cant stand the noisy 17inch Dunlops if i used it every day id have to get Mich. Otherwise i like the HR. its a chirpy wee ting. There's not much difference, not such a difference you would notice driving anyway. It seems to lie between the civic 1.8 and civic 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huawei Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Casual driver, not really into cars but like the look of both the HRV and the new civic. Which is the better overall choice. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Casual driver, not really into cars but like the look of both the HRV and the new civic. Which is the better overall choice. Thanks Now, the HR-V. Or wait for the next generation civic which is better in almost every department, according to overseas reports. Lots of space in the hr-v if you carry lots of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The HRV is despecked here to the ones I saw I the US. Costs more and and no 4x4. Recon we will get the same scam with the civic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 . Civic full US,behind is the Accoutants version HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) The old 2litre loved a drink.[emoji482] the newer 1.8 is much better on E85 but top fuel is little or no saving I've found.E85 was 18.75 yesterday. and the 1.8 of the hrv is more efficient than that in the civic due to the cvt (and faster to 100 km/h as well). The 2.0 surely does drink a lot, but I generally drive it only on the weekends now. Ive got the 2 and the cvt isnt faster over the marker posts i use to test all rides to 120.Cant stand the noisy 17inch Dunlops if i used it every day id have to get Mich. Otherwise i like the HR. its a chirpy wee ting. There's not much difference, not such a difference you would notice driving anyway. It seems to lie between the civic 1.8 and civic 2.0. If the 0-100 time is > 10 seconds, it doesn't matter anymore - it's a slow car and you're simply not buying it for it's acceleration Some might even make that argument for anything > 8 s (or less) Edited January 9, 2016 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Casual driver, not really into cars but like the look of both the HRV and the new civic. Which is the better overall choice. Thanks If we get the 1.5L turbo upon launch, the Civic. If not, the HR-V has the same underpinnings, with a more practical body attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huawei Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Casual driver, not really into cars but like the look of both the HRV and the new civic. Which is the better overall choice. Thanks If we get the 1.5L turbo upon launch, the Civic. If not, the HR-V has the same underpinnings, with a more practical body attached. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The BRV is a jacked up Brio, the HRV a jacked up Jazz - both have jacked up prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The BRV is a jacked up Brio, the HRV a jacked up Jazz - both have jacked up prices. I think the dimensions of the brio are slightly smaller? The Br-v has the jazzes interior. I think honda have realised what a failure the brio has been Idecent engine though) and have more away from those design cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) If the 0-100 time is > 10 seconds, it doesn't matter anymore - it's a slow car and you're simply not buying it for it's acceleration Some might even make that argument for anything > 8 s (or less) True, none of them are 'fast' at this price point. But 10 seconds is respectable for a regular car driven around town...and feels a lot faster than an ecocar. Mid range punch is more important. 5-6 seconds 80-120 is nice for overtaking. Bring on the 1.5 turbo! Edited January 9, 2016 by DavisH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect1452325103.375639.jpg. Civic full US,behind is the Accoutants version HR. gotta fire your accountant... low model(black stripe) yet spent money on an ugly chrome door handle for the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Wouldn't know ,it's for our Son .Hes already stuck Yobbo Sound System in.[emoji443][emoji441][emoji446] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 By the way Mr Bear ,after seeing the top one in USA early this year ,lost interest here and left it to the family. Only instruction . No Brain Dead Black one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 back on e85 on the HRV. The gain in HP/torque or whatever is very noticable again. Im wondering is it possible that the stronger pull makes the car use less gas than with gasohol when using eco mode(low rpms). As it's getting to its speed with more ease, it should use less gas right? Gonna keep testing with the eco mode, last time i think i had too much fun with manual mode on e85 :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 back on e85 on the HRV. The gain in HP/torque or whatever is very noticable again. Im wondering is it possible that the stronger pull makes the car use less gas than with gasohol when using eco mode(low rpms). As it's getting to its speed with more ease, it should use less gas right? Gonna keep testing with the eco mode, last time i think i had too much fun with manual mode on e85 :> ....you got bragging rights..."my ride runs 11's" No need to tell them the units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Any word on the HRV getting the 1.5 turbo? The new civic doesn't look to be getting the latest units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Any word on the HRV getting the 1.5 turbo? The new civic doesn't look to be getting the latest units I haven't heard any rumblings of that nature... That would make it a very interesting car though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) crash test pics that cd cause concern if you were considering an HRV IIHS side impact test took the B pillar clean off its base. The 2nd pic is a small overlap impact. still classed as acceptable Edited January 25, 2016 by Cook my sock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) isnt that better than any car under 1million in thailand? Seems to me that most of the trash sold here ends up like that at 20kph Edited January 26, 2016 by bearpolar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 isnt that better than any car under 1million in thailand? Seems to me that most of the trash sold here ends up like that at 20kph The small overlap frontal impact in the 2nd photo is actually very good. This is the American test in which all the impact zone is only as wide as a headlight, and it's crashed into a solid object - not the same as the EU tests where it's 40% overlap into a deformable barrier. The side impact test is a little worrying, but without understanding the test protocol, hard to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 on the first picture it seems that all people even small children in booster seats would have survived Im sure that in the same test with expat's favorite the toyota vios, they would have been crushed all the way down under the right wheel of the car(if they had been seating on the left) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 If 1m or just under is the budget, the RAV4 scores very well in the tests as does the Mazda 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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