My feelings about Thailand

[roego]

Received an email fromm Thai Visa this morning, he we have noticed you have not been here since 2012?

Well I have stopped coming to Thailand. Came , brought amy daughter to Hua Hin i February, First time i Thailand i 12 months.

Have not been since and no plans to come back. I used to visit 3 tims a year with Hua Hin number one on he iteneray.

Why don't I want to come back.

1 Whilst in pool camera stole,.

2. Noticed a distinct change for the worse in attidude to foreigners.

3. The attitude from Immigartion and security has got worse. Sullen, in co-oprtative.

4. Prices and cons getting worse.

5. and eg Nong Nooch Gardens , just one of many, local 250B forigner 500b, As a matter of principle the do not get me. Plus they cheat by writing the sigbn in Thati.

6. Thai railways stopped taking online bookings. makes it xtremely difficult for a visitor to ge a ticket. Is thaet because the education level is dropping in Thailand and they do no give aXXXXX.

7 , The demostrations do little to encourage cofidence.

But the good thing about the attitude of the Thai people twords me is I discoverd Laos and Cambodia. And generall have found the Cmabodia to be the nicest most courteous people in Asia.

[Fiddlesticks]

discoverd Laos and Cambodia. And generall have found the Cmabodia to be the nicest most courteous people in Asia.

Bet you said the same thing after your first visit to Thailand as well. As the old saying goes, "familiarity breeds contempt". Looking forward to your updated posts about Laos and Cambodia in a few years!

[fey]

i hated cambodia, especially cambodian men. they have this smile that i have never seen before. its not the same as thais or other areas.

it probably has to do much with my interpretation, but the smile coupled with the constant touting really put me off. im also certain there was an erotic undertone in many cases.

so much so that i decided based on this reason that it was not a satisfactory long term living option. immigration asking for a bribe at phenom pehn airport when departing was also a nail in the coffin.

even vietnam where the touting can be worse and the attitude less accomadating was preferable. laos was also great, liked the people there.

Edited December 14, 2014 by fey

[ttthailand]

The two sign thing is what I find a bit deceitful. They post an English sign with the farang price but not the Thai price. Then the Thai sign with both. It is almost like saying that they think the Thai will play along with the game. I guess they know it is wrong so they need to hide.

[ThePlant]

What is the OP babbling about?

[Costas2008]

What is the OP babbling about?

I think he doesn't like Thailand

Vote for Costas

[jacksam]

That's for the update OP..... TV never ceases to amaze me. What do you want op from this thread. Some people to back up your feelings?? What . I don't get it. You dont like Los anymore. Excellent. See yuh.

[skippy]

George has never been good with the correct and spoken tongue.

[willyumiii]

If you are done with Thailand, why bother to post on TV?

Do you expect those who love it here to join you?

Bye bye!

[torrow]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

[skippy]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

Buy yourself a maybe local and take the path.

[Digitalnomade]

The two sign thing is what I find a bit deceitful. They post an English sign with the farang price but not the Thai price. Then the Thai sign with both. It is almost like saying that they think the Thai will play along with the game. I guess they know it is wrong so they need to hide.

it means it s free and you can go through because it s illegal to make a farang price. it ' s the law....

[torrow]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

Buy yourself a maybe local and take the path.

Sorry, you've lost me there

[Naam]

The two sign thing is what I find a bit deceitful. They post an English sign with the farang price but not the Thai price. Then the Thai sign with both. It is almost like saying that they think the Thai will play along with the game. I guess they know it is wrong so they need to hide.

it means it s free and you can go through because it s illegal to make a farang price. it ' s the law....

it ' s the law....

[gerry123]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

Buy yourself a maybe local and take the path.

Sorry, you've lost me there

i agree, me too, but equally so the OP

[patongphil]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

did you enjoy the Filipino food??

[torrow]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

did you enjoy the Filipino food??

No, I don't like Filipino food but there are plenty of alternatives available. Don't misunderstand me, the Philippines has it's own challenges for the ex pat which is why I'd like to know more about others experiences in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

Edited December 14, 2014 by torrow

[skippy]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

did you enjoy the Filipino food??

No, I don't like Filipino food but there are plenty of alternatives available. Don't misunderstand me, the Philippines has it's own challenges for the ex pat which is why I'd like to know more about others experiences in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

Have you tried http://www.cambodiavisa.com ?

[torrow]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

did you enjoy the Filipino food??

No, I don't like Filipino food but there are plenty of alternatives available. Don't misunderstand me, the Philippines has it's own challenges for the ex pat which is why I'd like to know more about others experiences in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

Have you tried http://www.cambodiavisa.com ?

Thanks for the info. Yes, I've looked already and obviously, it's biased towards Cambodia. I know there are members here who have lived in different countries throughout South East Asia and could offer experienced comparisons.

[faraday]

I really do wonder if the Moderators might consider setting up a Sub Forum on here for the people who have, in my opinion, a problem with Thailand.

In the sub forum, these people could moan & whinge to their hearts content, about Thailand.

I often find myself becoming exasperated with the complaints & petty observations about how "imperfect" Thailand is.

Because as we all know, our Country of origin is a Nirvana by comparison.......

Perhaps if the Mods do set this up, there could be a small charge which would vary according to the Nationality of the moanee....a sort of dual pricing scheme?

[skippy]

I really do wonder if the Moderators might consider setting up a Sub Forum on here for the people who have, in my opinion, a problem with Thailand.

In the sub forum, these people could moan & whinge to their hearts content, about Thailand.

I often find myself becoming exasperated with the complaints & petty observations about how "imperfect" Thailand is.

Because as we all know, our Country of origin is a Nirvana by comparison.......

Perhaps if the Mods do set this up, there could be a small charge which would vary according to the Nationality of the moanee....a sort of dual pricing scheme?

Only 1 option available.

[Gecko123]

OP:

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with Thailand's management team.

[fey]

That's for the update OP..... TV never ceases to amaze me. What do you want op from this thread. Some people to back up your feelings?? What . I don't get it. You dont like Los anymore. Excellent. See yuh.

i think they are saying that the visa hassles are too much here and they are seriously considering moving to cambodia...

[skippy]

That's for the update OP..... TV never ceases to amaze me. What do you want op from this thread. Some people to back up your feelings?? What . I don't get it. You dont like Los anymore. Excellent. See yuh.

i think they are saying that the visa hassles are too much here and they are seriously considering moving to cambodia...

Thinking in Thailand ? , not much of that going about with those trying to stay on a whim.

[torrow]

If anyone is interested, khmer440 has a recent Thailand/Cambodia comparison article written by someone who has lived in both countries.

[cooked]

Hua Hin is Thailand ? One of the reasons that I like Thailand is that I never go there, nor Pattaya, Phuket or Bangkok if I can help it.

sent from phone using bih thumbs

[Berkshire]

Is it me or are TV members becoming more and more incoherent? Well, at least it will be leaving for Cambodia soon.

Edited December 14, 2014 by Berkshire

[steven100]

where did you learn to write english ? ...............

[Thongkorn]

Once again a member posts his thoughts on an open forum and gets slated, his thoughts he is entitled to them, I agree with most of what he says, my opinion and thoughts. Went to Pattaya for 4 days, that's all I could stand, empty bars, girls with bad attitude, to many men in frocks, Same goes for hua him, spent 5 days there, same there many empty bars, bad attitudes and expensive pricing. We. The wife and I think the real Thailand is in the provinces. You still get smiles from Thai , Burmies and the rest, Thailand has big problems most peopl can see this, bad roads, police . Racism, double pricing, bad education and ignorance, they spend billions of baht on building. Again my thoughts, probably from money laudaring. The new shopping centres springing up around Thailand with great marbel halls, mostly empty with top of the range goods mostly copy's. And you still have to wipe your arse and put the paper in a cheap plastic bucket next to the toilet, yes this will realy attract the upper class international holiday makers and globe hoppers, not,, ps I like Thailand but I am just disappointed with her.

[pgrahmm]

I for one would be interested to see other peoples feelings about this topic instead of the usual smartass replies. I've spent a long time in the Philippines and to be fair, Filipinos are in a completely different league. Go into a shop or restaurant and you will experience first class service and politeness, not some sullen face stuck in smart phone. I came to Thailand with a view to settle but I'm having second thoughts. I would welcome others experiences of Cambodia and Vietnam.

Yes The filipinos are in another league - a minor league in every respect except one (by and large the filipinos are a nice people)...I've spent extensive time (years) in th PI and have never seen the place the way your describe it.....I've been to all areas and involved with a "hiso" family - I've served as a talent judge for talent competitions along side of the Mayor of a major city along with scions of industry there....I've been to most islands....I've traveled with our own maids and cooks + eaten in the upper level eateries as well as the shopping mall/common food servers.....

Nowhere does the Camelot that you paint exist except for possibly a small area of Manila (micro).....it simply does not exist....

You want to see down and out farangs - dirty - unpolished - scroungy - unwashed = the PI is your place......the people (while some are beautiful) are largely unwashed and desperate = matching up well with the foreigners that gravitate there....want an education----? Take a Tiger Air flight to Clarke AFB from BKK - you'll see exactly the "quality foreigner/farang" headed there - most for the ABC Hotel so they can partake in the pool parties......

Read the thread about the poor soul that wanted/thought about moving his family there and see the real PI......

I had handed to me chances at 100% non fail business interests (new 7-11's in established areas by major bus teminals & hospitals) through family connections that I wouldn't consider because I'd have to spend my life there.....

I could tell you about people trying to pick my pockets in broad daylight - about 3 guys trying to triangle me 2 behind with knives - 1 in front ready to stab me for my wallet at about 12:20 in the afternoon in broad daylight behind the cover of a sign....they found out they'd picked the wrong guy.....

I could tell you about somebody that simply dissappeared because his wife had relatives in the NLA or PLA or whatever it's called...and he was worth more money after 7 years and declared dead....this is an anti government group that makes it's living as muscle for hire for the people that wish to side step the law.....you want somebody to drop their suit? Need someone gone? Need someone hurt and afraid to talk - call these guys....the police give them carte blanche....their scared of them....they are nationwide and organised with para military precision and ranks.....

If you like aggressive beggars (everywhere in the PI) following you gaining in numbers while walking or going to a place to eat - or pounding on the side of your cars at stops - go to the PI....(kind of like the night of the living desperate).....

If you think driving is tough here - it's about 10X worse there - coupled with the fact a lot of lights do not work and street signs are non existent......and the male drivers (hardly any female drivers there) are mano on mano betting their fenders - drive down a dark street and watch suicide drivers/rider coming from every direction on dark rainy nights - many without lights - a large number on bicycles (no sound) - can;t afford anything else.....try driving on a street with 2 lanes when one is completely choked by Jeepney's crawling along with 1940's brakes and trolling for rides the other several hundred Jeepneys might have missed - go to what is supposed to be a seaside city and find overpiriced accomodations (not family - keep reading) with cock roaches sharing the building with you - out in plain sight and light day and night ......watch the worried looks on the faces of the people that care about you when you're around them....travel by bus - just to try it and feel the rear wheel losing traction around turns (they're absolutely suicidal) ...... worse than here - their driver have order to run down anything in their way - there's no consequences for them.....

Wait until you're driving on election weeks and routinely stopped with ploice checking for guns....enjoy the feeling of being searched for weapons going into shopping malls.....look at the the shotgun armed guards at every large business....watch the non existent police (better look fast - they're not there and at most police boxes you'll have to go to their homes looking for them in the smaller towns).......

Want to see a nervous Taxi driver or Trike driver - be a farang and use one......watch as you've chartered a cab as people see you going into a place to eat and circle the car with a towel on their fists looking to see if anything left inside the car....

I submit to you you have no clue about the place......or you're drunk in "paradise".....

Filipinas (some) are great - most are very possessive - jealous - and vocal - don't even thing of acknowledging another female if yours does not know her.....

Been involved with 4 - 1st was great - together 8 1/2 years and traveled the world together with free flight priviledges (from her) and a great time...2nd had the dissappearing husband (found out after I asked why the kids never visited their Dad) and the NLA/PLA family members - think he took one trip into the jungle he never returned from - 3rd = too jealous.....

4th (ex-wife) - a good women - owned her own very large house and business exporting to NY boutiques...+ family has 90+ hotels in it's chain + 7-11's + catering concerns + ranches/farms + commissary businesses.......attended parties in houses larger than a lot of hotels and the other party goers usually had body guards ( holders of government office nationally - business leaders - minor officials - celebrities) ....reason for ending = unlimited arguing/control problems

I had the golden ticket - I was part of a successful family with family houses, ranches, condos, hotels at my disposal - I was undefeatable in Karaoke (important in PI - like the national pastime - at large parties it was defaulted to me as having automatically the best voice) ....I was - through family importance - an important person and I still walked away - why?

I didn't want my life to end there - not safe to walk about.......let alone live......a cloaking/choking existence

Don't even pretend to tell the people on this board how much better the PI is - - - I could go on but this is enough......

Go out and learn your lessons - be careful or it will be your last - don't come across like such a simpleton.......

Edited December 14, 2014 by pgrahmm