Monkeyrobot Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Where is the swede with the finger point?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 One way to avoid a scam like this is to NOT rent a Jet Ski The second way is to take photos of the Jet Ski before riding it and getting the renty to agree about what is or is not wrong with the Jet Ski This should help a bit Or just lock up the Jet Ski Rental guys Taking photos doesn't protect you or help you. Many times, they have painted the damaged area with water-washable paint. It looks fine when you rent it , but washed off and later shows the damage... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 When will they just ban these operators full stop? I don't know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Troll post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Surely the thing to do with these people is simply to insist the matter be settled at the police station, and demand that they prove the damage was caused by you. It's only their word against yours. Of perhaps in Thailand there doesn't have to be any proof that a crime has been committed, and it's enough to just say there has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 One way to avoid a scam like this is to NOT rent a Jet Ski The second way is to take photos of the Jet Ski before riding it and getting the renty to agree about what is or is not wrong with the Jet Ski This should help a bit Or just lock up the Jet Ski Rental guys Taking photos is part of their scam. Everybody has a camera with them these days. The Thai tells the foreigner to take photos, that way they'll be no misunderstanding. We'll have before and after photos...the camera never lies. So the foreigner checks the jetski and takes photos...not a mark on it, not a blemish....then half and hour later when he returns to shore - Hey Presto, there's a big scrape on the jetski. They use water-soluble filler and water-base paint to hide existing damage. After 30 minutes whizzing around the sea the water has softened and dislodged the filler and washed away the paint, revealing the damage. That's the scam. Been working well for decades at Pattaya & Phuket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 A post using derogatory terms removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Great post SpiderMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelman868 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The jet ski operator is as shocked about being arrested for that as we are! Since when did the "rules" change? See what happens when you miss monthly tea money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Surely the thing to do with these people is simply to insist the matter be settled at the police station, and demand that they prove the damage was caused by you. It's only their word against yours. Of perhaps in Thailand there doesn't have to be any proof that a crime has been committed, and it's enough to just say there has. As i understand the police are in on the scam and maybe owning the jet ski, its a bit of a stretch to describe the bib as police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Surely the thing to do with these people is simply to insist the matter be settled at the police station, and demand that they prove the damage was caused by you. It's only their word against yours. Of perhaps in Thailand there doesn't have to be any proof that a crime has been committed, and it's enough to just say there has. As i understand the police are in on the scam and maybe owning the jet ski, its a bit of a stretch to describe the bib as police. There was an interesting case recently when a farang was caught up in the jetski scam, he didn't phone the bib for help, he phoned the military for help. it all got sorted very fast and the farang walked away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Surely the thing to do with these people is simply to insist the matter be settled at the police station, and demand that they prove the damage was caused by you. It's only their word against yours. Of perhaps in Thailand there doesn't have to be any proof that a crime has been committed, and it's enough to just say there has. As i understand the police are in on the scam and maybe owning the jet ski, its a bit of a stretch to describe the bib as police. There was an interesting case recently when a farang was caught up in the jetski scam, he didn't phone the bib for help, he phoned the military for help. it all got sorted very fast and the farang walked away. Not that i would rent a jet ski but what number would you use to call the military? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Jet ski scrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Surely the thing to do with these people is simply to insist the matter be settled at the police station, and demand that they prove the damage was caused by you. It's only their word against yours. Of perhaps in Thailand there doesn't have to be any proof that a crime has been committed, and it's enough to just say there has. As i understand the police are in on the scam and maybe owning the jet ski, its a bit of a stretch to describe the bib as police. There was an interesting case recently when a farang was caught up in the jetski scam, he didn't phone the bib for help, he phoned the military for help. it all got sorted very fast and the farang walked away. Not that i would rent a jet ski but what number would you use to call the military? Dunno, saw it on Pattaya News TV, he must have gone online with his mobile and got hold of a phone number that way. Makes you wonder why someone that sharp is dumb enough to rent a jetski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Make the operator have insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Make the operator have insurance It's a scam, a tourist rip off, has virtually zero to do with genuine accidents. Making them have insurance would screw up the scam. TIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Make the operator have insurance It's a scam, a tourist rip off, has virtually zero to do with genuine accidents. Making them have insurance would screw up the scam. TIT. Cant imagine any reputable broker interested in selling insurance to the scammers. Also i believe these things require some kind of license which in almost all cases would make the insurance null n void. Edited January 10, 2015 by tingtongfarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Make the operator have insurance It's a scam, a tourist rip off, has virtually zero to do with genuine accidents. Making them have insurance would screw up the scam. TIT. Cant imagine any reputable broker interested in selling insurance to the scammers. Also i believe these things require some kind of license which in almost all cases would make the insurance null n void. They would certainly need to get their act cleaned up before any insurance company would give coverage. The authorities need to really be active in this respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The money made on this scam must be staggering. The Pattaya police who are a part of this scam, have to put up with a lot of heat and bad publicity from it, yet they keep on allowing it to happen. So that clearly means they are in it up to their necks. If the police wanted to , they could stop this scam in one day. Yet they choose not to. So figure it out yourself what is happening here..... We are more than likely talking about millions of baht per week. One scam alone nets 10, 20, or 50k baht. Think of all the jet ski operators. This scam is very widespread. What percentage do the RTP get? Probably pretty high. Anyone know? It is surprising more embassies do not warn their citizens about it. Guess they are too afraid of being politically incorrect? If there was not such a fortune being made on this criminal enterprise, the government and the "police" would not allow it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The money made on this scam must be staggering. The Pattaya police who are a part of this scam, have to put up with a lot of heat and bad publicity from it, yet they keep on allowing it to happen. So that clearly means they are in it up to their necks. If the police wanted to , they could stop this scam in one day. Yet they choose not to. So figure it out yourself what is happening here..... We are more than likely talking about millions of baht per week. One scam alone nets 10, 20, or 50k baht. Think of all the jet ski operators. This scam is very widespread. What percentage do the RTP get? Probably pretty high. Anyone know? It is surprising more embassies do not warn their citizens about it. Guess they are too afraid of being politically incorrect? If there was not such a fortune being made on this criminal enterprise, the government and the "police" would not allow it to happen. Someone posted that one of the jet ski guys in Phuket said the police cut is 20 %. That seems a bit low to me for something that generates a river of money. When the Thai chief of police here got the instant boot after Prayut took over power, I hoped the jet ski scam would come to an end. But apparently not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfarang1948 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Attacks on tourists have been happening in this very same spot for years and years. <snip> Thai authorities allow this to go on endlessly. It points out how little Thailand Tourism Minister cares for the welfare of visitors to the Kingdom. I guess the word does not spread from one Farang to another to avoid these criminals. Come to for vacation and get ripped off and assaulted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 When will they just ban these operators full stop? I don't know... When they decide it is time to reorganize the RTP Corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hopefully the scumbag has to pay a hety fine plus compensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Attacks on tourists have been happening in this very same spot for years and years. <snip> Thai authorities allow this to go on endlessly. It points out how little Thailand Tourism Minister cares for the welfare of visitors to the Kingdom. I guess the word does not spread from one Farang to another to avoid these criminals. Come to for vacation and get ripped off and assaulted As long as there is an unlimited ( so far ) supply of oblivious "first time " visitors that sustain (so far ) Pattaya tourism the minister of tourism could care less. Even the tourists who do not get ripped off and assaulted most likely will not be coming back. If not for the #1 attraction in Pattaya why in the world would anyone return (put up with being around these people) for more than one visit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Do those gobs own them or run them for a local hi so..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 More "lip service" being given to tourists to allay tourism concerns. If there cannot be a crackdown on these scams, then obviously some one is being paid not to do so! Patently obvious to all except those "in charge"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemel Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I suppose if senior police have to pay money to their superiors to buy promotion and position, of 3-5million Baht, then that money has to be refunded somehow. Maybe by the trickle 'up' effect of monies collected in jet ski scams, road blocks, protection money, licenses, music license, bar takings etc etc will go towards alleviating that debt , poor things . By stopping the jet ski scam(highly improbable), although it would be good for Pattaya but then would mean a shortfall for the MIB, who I am sure would look for another source of income from somewhere else other than tourists! maybe come after expats more! The only way you may be able to stop it, is by the Army, clamping down on money for promotion, negating the reason for all the scams and money making activities in the first place........some has happened already, like the head of the CIB being removed but there are only so many inactive posts in the country surely....so can not see this happening for a very long time. It is also true that corruption is endemic in all aspects of daily life and until that is stamped out we will still be complaining about something even if it is not the jet skis.......my 2 pence worth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 When i get asked if i want a jetski hire, my answer is sorry i not have 50,000 baht in my pocket, they laugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Search of Space Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 One way to avoid a scam like this is to NOT rent a Jet Ski The second way is to take photos of the Jet Ski before riding it and getting the renty to agree about what is or is not wrong with the Jet Ski This should help a bit Or just lock up the Jet Ski Rental guys Just lock them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 One way to avoid a scam like this is to NOT rent a Jet Ski The second way is to take photos of the Jet Ski before riding it and getting the renty to agree about what is or is not wrong with the Jet Ski This should help a bit Or just lock up the Jet Ski Rental guys naah. The best way is to keep forwarding these videos to every possible contact in the tourist industry,. The various embassies already know and do little to help. Bad press internationally and in social media is the only way to stop it. Make them lose Face again and again and again.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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