Responsible Night Security Guard Services Needed

[BoatWorx]

Anyone know of a responsible security service that services the Jomtien area ?

I am in need of 1 night security guard [7 days per week / 12 hours per night] due to my current so-called professional services not being able to ensure a night guard shows up as scheduled.

I would prefer an actual security company that can provide alternate or rotating guards if and when the security guard requires time off, sick leave, or otherwise.

Any help or referrals would be greatly appreciated.

Also, anyone have experience with doing a security man as a direct hire ? - my experience they were sleeping at my night job and working a day-time job.

[Rooo]

Moved to Pattaya forum.

[i claudius]

Best of luck with that ,from our experiance all we ever used were a waste of space ,in the end we all gave up and stopped using security ,funny thing is in the last few years there has not been one problem or break in on the estate.

Ps the UK was no better ,for the type of guard you require the lowest paid brain dead ,immegrants are employed

[ATF]

You can register with your local Police Station to have the Police sign a reporting box outside your premises a few times a night. Costs a few thousand a month and is a good deterrent coupled with security cameras.

There are also plenty of cops looking for extra work.

[konying]

All companies are about the same. Sleeping at night is a standard practice .

In my place 1 guard was sleeping in the back of my car, when changed, new one was doing house rounds asking for 20 baht every night, next one had friends over to get drunk .

One expansive solution is to have 2, they stay awake longer and take turns sleeping, also if one does not show up always have another

[konying]

You can register with your local Police Station to have the Police sign a reporting box outside your premises a few times a night. Costs a few thousand a month and is a good deterrent coupled with security cameras.

There are also plenty of cops looking for extra work.

It's once a day and hardly every day. 1000-3000 per month

[whiteman]

You can register with your local Police Station to have the Police sign a reporting box outside your premises a few times a night. Costs a few thousand a month and is a good deterrent coupled with security cameras.

There are also plenty of cops looking for extra work.

It's once a day and hardly every day. 1000-3000 per month

And they do not even check your place they just sign the book and then go for a coffee some where. A waste of 3000 bhat but the red box looks good

[ATF]

whiteman, on 11 Jan 2015 - 09:01, said:

konying, on 11 Jan 2015 - 08:56, said:

ATF, on 11 Jan 2015 - 08:50, said:

You can register with your local Police Station to have the Police sign a reporting box outside your premises a few times a night. Costs a few thousand a month and is a good deterrent coupled with security cameras.

There are also plenty of cops looking for extra work.

It's once a day and hardly every day. 1000-3000 per month

And they do not even check your place they just sign the book and then go for a coffee some where. A waste of 3000 bhat but the red box looks good

My experience has been different. Agreed the red box does look good

[OMGImInPattaya]

Best of luck with that ,from our experiance all we ever used were a waste of space ,in the end we all gave up and stopped using security ,funny thing is in the last few years there has not been one problem or break in on the estate.

Ps the UK was no better ,for the type of guard you require the lowest paid brain dead ,immegrants are employed

The pot shouldn't be calling the "immegrants" black

[BoatWorx]

Best of luck with that ,from our experiance all we ever used were a waste of space ,in the end we all gave up and stopped using security ,funny thing is in the last few years there has not been one problem or break in on the estate.

Ps the UK was no better ,for the type of guard you require the lowest paid brain dead ,immegrants are employed

I must comment you are spot on

[BoatWorx]

You can register with your local Police Station to have the Police sign a reporting box outside your premises a few times a night. Costs a few thousand a month and is a good deterrent coupled with security cameras.

There are also plenty of cops looking for extra work.

It's once a day and hardly every day. 1000-3000 per month

And they do not even check your place they just sign the book and then go for a coffee some where. A waste of 3000 bhat but the red box looks good

I have seen this myself on another property, they ride up on a motorbike and punch in then leave not having looked at the activities in a heavily trafficked residential apartment housing location. So I would have to agree with these quotes.

[mikebell]

How much a month are guards paid? 12 hour shifts; 6 days a week? = 72 hours. It is a serious question as I am looking to cost it out for my estate.

[craigt3365]

We use a company from Sattahip. Most guards are from the navy. We've had relatively good success with them and the price is right. And yes, at 3am, you'll find them fast asleep on occasion.

PM me if you want their number. Securitas is the big player here. Expensive, but hopefully higher quality.

[KittenKong]

All companies are about the same. Sleeping at night is a standard practice .

Sleeping can be a problem but I dont find that all companies are the same as all others.

[KittenKong]

I would prefer an actual security company that can provide alternate or rotating guards if and when the security guard requires time off, sick leave, or otherwise.

Also, anyone have experience with doing a security man as a direct hire ? - my experience they were sleeping at my night job and working a day-time job.

If you get the right man you could be on to a winner but the trick will be getting the right man.

My building uses a company as we have several guards on site 24/7 and it would be a nightmare trying to manage that ourselves.

[n210mp]

Since we sacked the "security" on our small and private estate just off So Siam CC road we haven't had any problems at all.

I used to go out at 5.30am from the village and regularly had to raise the barrier myself (didn't want to disturb the sleeping security man and his girl friend who were fast asleep in a makeshift bed of sorts in a fond embrace)

The reason I wasn't too bothered was because the day staff were just brilliant, pleasant , helpful and very conscientious

The problem came when the good day staff were replaced with bad day staff who preferred playing with her smartphone to being on the ball with opening the gates and the ample lady who replaced the day staff man and his girl friend was also an unpleasant character who just oozed resentment.

There were also a couple of residents on our small estate who never paid their monthly bill and so fed up with these scroungers and the now totally inefficient and unpleasant staff I said that I wasn't paying any more service charges.

Some of the other people on the estate agreed with my viewpoint and in view of the fact that we could not find any alternative acceptable security we decided that maybe it would be better to "police" our own estate ourselves and that is what we have done and it has worked out just fine

The majority of the folk on the estate are genuine and helpful and if we are going away for a time then there are sufficient sensible people around to make sure our properties are safe and secure. We inturn return the service when they go away for a while

[konying]

All companies are about the same. Sleeping at night is a standard practice .

Sleeping can be a problem but I dont find that all companies are the same as all others.

companies and staff are not one of the same.

company could be different, sleeping on the job and caliber of staff is the same

[KittenKong]

companies and staff are not one of the same.

company could be different, sleeping on the job and caliber of staff is the same

Having had some first-hand experience, I disagree.

Good management will result in better staff being employed.

I have seen this in practice over the last year

[n210mp]

companies and staff are not one of the same.

company could be different, sleeping on the job and caliber of staff is the same

Having had some first-hand experience, I disagree.

Good management will result in better staff being employed.

I have seen this in practice over the last year

Surely if there are staff sleeping on the job then ergo there cannot be good management, can there I mean, wouldnt good management be doing regular spot checks at different times?

If the good management were actually paying good wages and making the job valuable to a staff member then that staff member would not sleep on the job for fear of losing it.

The former night staff on our estate were actually working at another estate during the day, doing the same job and for the same company...........Work that one out!

[KittenKong]

Having had some first-hand experience, I disagree.

Good management will result in better staff being employed.

I have seen this in practice over the last year

Surely if there are staff sleeping on the job then ergo there cannot be good management, can there I mean, wouldnt good management be doing regular spot checks at different times?

If the good management were actually paying good wages and making the job valuable to a staff member then that staff member would not sleep on the job for fear of losing it.

The former night staff on our estate were actually working at another estate during the day, doing the same job and for the same company...........Work that one out!

Well, yes. That's what I was trying to point out.

If the management of the security company is good then the staff should be better selected and better supervised. A bad company will hire anyone and not supervise them much.

Presumably the company in your estate wasn't much good. With a better company things should improve.

As for being in fear of losing their job, many Thais just dont seem to care very much. Is this due to the same reason that they often ride motorbikes without a helmet and rarely look behind before changing lane? I don't know, and I don't suppose I ever will.

[Satcommlee]

Pay peanuts, get monkeys!

double the going rate and the best security guards will come and will stay awake!

[n210mp]

I suppose house volumes have something to do with it as well because on our small estate of just 18ish houses the fees would proportionately have to be more than on a large estate of say 100 plus houses for a "good" company to be interested in working with us.

Small can be better though as we have proved with some of our residents because since we got rid of the inefficient security there has been more of a community spirit with some of our neighbour thus taking up the slack and "taking care " of each others property even when we are away from it even to the extent of just going shopping

[konying]

companies and staff are not one of the same.

company could be different, sleeping on the job and caliber of staff is the same

Having had some first-hand experience, I disagree.

Good management will result in better staff being employed.

I have seen this in practice over the last year

You seeing 1 guard not sleeping does not constitute good management nor does it constitute good company, unless you insinuating that company had 1 manager per employee to watch each staff all night long, which also means you were awake each and every night watching, were you?

[konying]

Having had some first-hand experience, I disagree.

Good management will result in better staff being employed.

I have seen this in practice over the last year

Surely if there are staff sleeping on the job then ergo there cannot be good management, can there I mean, wouldnt good management be doing regular spot checks at different times?

If the good management were actually paying good wages and making the job valuable to a staff member then that staff member would not sleep on the job for fear of losing it.

The former night staff on our estate were actually working at another estate during the day, doing the same job and for the same company...........Work that one out!

Well, yes. That's what I was trying to point out.

If the management of the security company is good then the staff should be better selected and better supervised. A bad company will hire anyone and not supervise them much.

Presumably the company in your estate wasn't much good. With a better company things should improve.

As for being in fear of losing their job, many Thais just dont seem to care very much. Is this due to the same reason that they often ride motorbikes without a helmet and rarely look behind before changing lane? I don't know, and I don't suppose I ever will.

Clearly you do not have a clue, when staff pool is available company's can chose.

There is no staff pool, hence the reason why most companies drive and pick up their staff, because otherwise they will not even show up to work half of the time.

Half of the staff would be doing doing double shifts because they are always short of staff and no company management will ever change that,

Security guard is NOT popular job and attracts certain type of people, who are NOT cream de la cream of work force.

Companies providing services to businesses or estates which Thai consider to be prestigious have more luck getting staff, because of status, otherwise its all pretty much the same.

Just like with any other job, some staff are better than others, however sleeping at night is national practice in the security industry, and not only in Thailand.

[konying]

Pay peanuts, get monkeys!

double the going rate and the best security guards will come and will stay awake!

Double the charging rate, and you will not need any guards as you will not have any clients

[KittenKong]

You seeing 1 guard not sleeping does not constitute good management nor does it constitute good company, unless you insinuating that company had 1 manager per employee to watch each staff all night long, which also means you were awake each and every night watching, were you?

Over the years I have seen many security guards at all times of the day and night in our building. Under one company they were often asleep. Under a different company they hardly ever are.

So I just believe what I have seen.

[collin]

If you need bodyguards in bangkok I know a company who may help you with it !

https://bodyguardsbangkok.com

I call them everytime I go to bangkok and they are really professional... 

[champers]

2 hours ago, collin said:

If you need bodyguards in bangkok I know a company who may help you with it !

https://bodyguardsbangkok.com

I call them everytime I go to bangkok and they are really professional... 

Why do you need bodyguards? Are you Beyonce?

[georgegeorgia]

14 hours ago, collin said:

If you need bodyguards in bangkok I know a company who may help you with it !

https://bodyguardsbangkok.com

I call them everytime I go to bangkok and they are really professional... 

Dont mean to sound rude.....Why do u need bodyguards in Bangkok ?