Popular Post Just1Voice Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 "Why am I the Prime Minister?" Welllll, just guessing here, but maybe you are the PM because you overthrew an elected government, then handpicked the new lawmakers, who then unanimously "voted" for you as PM. Sound about right? "I will pass it." Gee, I guess there's no need for the NLA if you alone can pass bills and laws just because you want to. For those who backed and applauded this man, I hope you can see your rights and freedoms being stripped away. If it wasn't for the family obligations I have here, I would be long gone. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Now that would be a short conversation. "Why don't you talk about the good things in the bills, too?" the prime minister said." Hmm...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Dang Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I guess what this means that if they (meaning the PM or his henchmen), do not like any of the postings on this forum, can request (read "order" ), all the profile information from TV for a member. I know foreign ISPs will tell them to piss off if they request information, but what about Thai ISPs ? Her Goebbels has been resurrected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It is becoming increasingly clear that it won't. Perhaps time for an exit strategy, gentlemen. LM the mother of all excuses here. Where will this stop? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 For those who backed and applauded this man, I hope you can see your rights and freedoms being stripped away. Just one problem with that thought.... For most of those reading here, myself included, we have few if any rights and freedoms in Thailand. Can't take away something that doesn't exist in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 megalomania rising ... General, this is not about you, it is about the people. Time for you to grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Anything that stems from a militarily led coup is by definition and extension, illegal. So to attempt to delineate between pre and post declaration legality would be pointless, would you not agree? That aside, of course this behaviour has been taking place from the onset. Attempting to legitimize it at this time is not only the height of absurdity, but speaks volumes toward revealing the true nature of what has taken place here. The past is being over-written, right before our eyes, while the present is pretty quickly devolving into a nightmare of Orwellian proportions. "surveillance bill that would allow officials to inspect any form of communication without a requesting a court warrant" You're deceiving yourself if you don't think MICT was already doing this, albeit, illegally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Surely any democracy even bad can't be worst than this kind of intimidation from someone you can't removed, impeached and granted an amnesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailblue Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 obviously he is not a politician, he is answering like any General to his troops. But re the law, most countries are likely doing it anyway, especially after France etc. If it is used to catch someone working without a permit or the like, that would be wrong. If it used to catch terrorists, go fo it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBoy2 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Except for the cold-- North Korea sounds more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowfactor10 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Some of these army figures i just cant help to wonder how they would look if they get a complete make over LB style Will it bring the real hapiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Its all getting a bit scary now Hang on to your hat. Scary crazy is now a world wide problem. Something has to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 This country is on a slippery slope. Mark my words he will not give up power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Its all getting a bit scary now Please do not fret, my friend. Costas, rubl & djjamie will be along shortly to explain why these measures are to be applauded and how the west is far worse. Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Its all getting a bit scary now like in USA and UK.....did you follow the news they speak about ban of encryption.....Thailand is just behind but starting the same s....t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Please do not fret, my friend. Costas, rubl & djjamie will be along shortly to explain why these measures are to be applauded and how the west is far worse. Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, one of the original founders of The United States of America. But, I expected you would be along to stick up for the status quo. Edited January 22, 2015 by NeverSure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I have been eagerly awaiting a response from Costas to explain his masters comments. But for some reason he seems a bit quite today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingforsquid Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Except for the cold-- North Korea sounds more interesting. Smoking pot is legal too, so I hear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Please do not fret, my friend. Costas, rubl & djjamie will be along shortly to explain why these measures are to be applauded and how the west is far worse. Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, one of the original founders of The United States of America. But, I expected you would be along to stick up for the status quo. A mis-interpretation. I have no good answer how to balance security and freedom and looking around me neither does the 'World'. Does that mean I 'stick up' with the status-quo? Can or should I alter something in here ? Does my attitude as professed in the post I wrote before make me much different from other posters here? "If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?" Othello. Act III Scene I William Shakespiere Edited January 22, 2015 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Please do not fret, my friend. Costas, rubl & djjamie will be along shortly to explain why these measures are to be applauded and how the west is far worse. Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, one of the original founders of The United States of America. But, I expected you would be along to stick up for the status quo. A mis-interpretation. I have no good answer how to balance security and freedom and looking around me neither does the 'World'. Does that mean I 'stick up' with the status-quo? Can or should I alter something in here ? Does my attitude as professed in the post I wrote before make me much different from other posters here? Stop procrastinating Rubl and just comment on the topic at hand... I know you are always keen to keep discussion on track, as you so keenly point out in nearly every other thread on TVF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, one of the original founders of The United States of America. But, I expected you would be along to stick up for the status quo. A mis-interpretation. I have no good answer how to balance security and freedom and looking around me neither does the 'World'. Does that mean I 'stick up' with the status-quo? Can or should I alter something in here ? Does my attitude as professed in the post I wrote before make me much different from other posters here? Stop procrastinating Rubl and just comment on the topic at hand... I know you are always keen to keep discussion on track, as you so keenly point out in nearly every other thread on TVF. Please let me repeat my previous post on the topic "Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 "I don't have to answer why! I will pass it. You have a problem with that? Otherwise, why the hell am I the Prime Minister? Why am I the Prime Minister?" Now, there's a question....... a variation of an old saying comes to mind "with absolute power comes absolute madness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 "I don't have to answer why! I will pass it. You have a problem with that? Otherwise, why the hell am I the Prime Minister? Why am I the Prime Minister?" I guess the question was rhetorical? I worry more that it was a schizophrenic question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What's that old proverb about giving someone enough rope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) I have been eagerly awaiting a response from Costas to explain his masters comments. But for some reason he seems a bit quiet today. Edited January 22, 2015 by ldiablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowfactor10 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Its all getting a bit scary now Please do not fret, my friend. Costas, rubl & djjamie will be along shortly to explain why these measures are to be applauded and how the west is far worse. Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. Would a black person have friends amongst members of the klu klux clan ? So if not why do you think then the general is your friend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laolover88 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Suggest he worries first about, and puts an end to, 'illegal' activity on the ground and in 'real life' before he starts worrying about cyberspace. By the by most people I know communicate in 4/5 languages/dialects; do you suppose LOS's equivalent of GCHQ has the same multilingual capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Please do not fret, my friend. Costas, rubl & djjamie will be along shortly to explain why these measures are to be applauded and how the west is far worse. Did you miss me Actually I'm disappointed that such snooping will be allowed without a proper warrant. On the other hand sometimes time is of utmost importance. With proper justification I would allow warrants to be asked after the snooping event and insist warrants are ALWAYS asked whether before or after. Snooping is a hot issue for governments. The terrible attack in Paris a week ago puts pressure on governments to prevent such attacks. I'm afraid that at times freedom and security do not mix well. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, one of the original founders of The United States of America. But, I expected you would be along to stick up for the status quo. A mis-interpretation. I have no good answer how to balance security and freedom and looking around me neither does the 'World'. Does that mean I 'stick up' with the status-quo? Can or should I alter something in here ? Does my attitude as professed in the post I wrote before make me much different from other posters here? "If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?" Othello. Act III Scene I William Shakespiere Oh I really must disagree - it's Merchant of Venice Act 3 Scene 1. Shylock says it to Salarino. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I have been eagerly awaiting a response from Costas to explain his masters comments. But for some reason he seems a bit quiet today. Perhaps he is unable to see through the wall of his deliriously happy tears to be able to type, or maybe he is too busy proudly dusting off his hero's portrait collection of and replacing the flowers...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweden4ever Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Why he had a Press conference, if he didn´t /couldn´t anwer the reporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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