Russian wanted in connection with fatal stabbing of dog in Jomtien

[Maggusoil]

I would give the Russian a community service award.

Pit bulls are mongreled out slugs that are unpredictable around kids.

Take a look at the average pitbull owner. Half the time they look like their dog.

Most Australians who own pitbulls are covered in tatoos. Says it all.

I can't agree. When I left my home country, pitbulls had become the de rigeur dog of the latté set. Very fashionable.

I had a cross staffy with a ridgeback, while it was the friendliest dog with people, it used to like creating dog fights

in place where there were plenty of dogs and step back and watch from the sidelines.

Any dog bred for fighting should always be on a lead, where there is social contact, no matter what the owners think.

[losworld]

His encounter with the dog ended up with him kicking and then stabbing the dog.

It was not made clear if the dog was attacking the Russian at the time or not.

Not made clear

My view:

A pitbull rerrier. what a "nice little puppie"!

This bad Russian man killed the nice little puppie

Encounter with the dog:

It just wanted to lick his foot

One of these lying Thai crooks wanting to pressure some money from the farang for oneselfs reckless behavior (walking a fighting dog without a rope and a muzzle).

Two of these monsters almost killed one my peaceful dogs while walking past a house.

I hit them with a thick bamboo stick as hard as I could. It broke,

You can't stop these killers, except with a bullet or a knife.

I have two pit bulls in my soi. One barks at anyone who passes and has attacked several dogs in the area. The other is a very sweet friendly dog who plays with the local dogs when being walked by her owner. The first is owned by a limp little man and his equally ineffectual wife who know nothing about how to keep any dog, let alone a pit bull. He has two other dogs (not pit bulls) who are equally badly behaved. The second is owned by a guy who has trained his dog and in particular, socializing with other dogs and never lets her wander unaccompanied.

There's no such thing as a bad dog. Only bad owners.

Feeling good about a puppy being stabbed to death is quite possibly way up there on the list of indicators of those prone to psychopathy.

True the owners do affect the behavior of dogs but some animals have fighting bred into them such as Pitbulls making them unpredictable in domestic settings and equally dangerous.

[Beetlejuice]

Depends on what the dog was doing. 7 months is getting pretty mature. What would someone do if a nearly full-sized pit bull attacked him.

Not ten minutes ago I was petting my neighbors pit bull which is a big baby. He's so friendly all he might do is lick someone to death. But I've seen mean ones and...

Cheers

The Russian guy could have explained to the police that the dog attacked him and he defended himself without running off, although not sure how he would explain carrying a knife?

I hate pit bulls and believe the breed should be eradicated. They are the favourite breed of the lower classes in the belief that these dogs give them some sort of status symbol of power. Every pit bull has the potential to kill, even the most seemingly gentle of them.

Edited July 11, 2015 by Rimmer
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[ToddinChonburi]

I do think it is funny when some holiday is going on these dogs all disappear, I wonder why ? and after they all reappear again barking and snarling at people. I have gone to Home Pro looking at chain to carry with me. I should be able to walk down a street and not worry about a pack of wild dogs trying to eat me. These are not domestic animals they are allowed to roam the streets forming packs just like wild animals. When you walk through there territory they view you as a threat. only after you stand up to the pack leader they will leave you alone and see you are not a threat to them.

[losworld]

Depends on what the dog was doing. 7 months is getting pretty mature. What would someone do if a nearly full-sized pit bull attacked him.

Not ten minutes ago I was petting my neighbors pit bull which is a big baby. He's so friendly all he might do is lick someone to death. But I've seen mean ones and...

Cheers

The Russian guy could have explained to the police that the dog attacked him and he defended himself without running off, although not sure how he would explain carrying a knife?

I hate pit bulls and believe the breed should be eradicated. They are the favourite breed of the lower classes in the belief that these dogs give them some sort of status symbol of power. Every pit bull has the potential to kill, even the most seemingly gentle of them.

But nevertheless, Pattaya is a cesspool of undesirables, both people and it seems so are the dogs.

Let's see Thai vs Russian... hmmm... I wonder who will have to pay off the cops to the tune of around 30K. The Russian may be smart for carrying a knife and maybe even smarter for running if the dog did indeed attack him.

[Barin]

I think the fact that the Russian had a knife on him says a lot!

Sometimes it is wise to have a knife in your bag.

The knife may come handy in cutting bread or opening a beer bottle, you never know.

If this guy didn't have a knife with him he may have been severely bitten by this extremely dangerous dog.

In many countries of the world this kind of dog is illegal to keep as a pet.

[sead]

And so??

Keep your loving dog chained. 7 Month is a big matured pitbull. Dont let that7 months delude you.

[peterb17]

I carry a knife with me everywhere. How do they know he was drunk?

Okay, I'll be the one to ask... why do you carry a knife with you everywhere..?

Because he shaves his head , has been poisoned with the amount of tattoos , wears wife beaters and thinks he is probably the toughest most macho creature on the planet .

As ever very little info in the report.

There is a good reason that these dogs - bred in the land of the free are banned in many countries. They can be a bit unpredictable to say the least.

Also you have to ask- why would anyone go out and buy one- it's a breed that should die out (along with most Bulldogs who suffer with horrendous medical problems) it's not a species.

[Barin]

He was drunk, he was already carrying a knife, the next word I would like to use to describe him will not make it through the language filter, end of.

Why do you know he was drunk?

Because the owner of the dog said so?

Did the police test the Russian guy for alcohol?

[peterb17]

I carry a knife with me everywhere. How do they know he was drunk?

Okay, I'll be the one to ask... why do you carry a knife with you everywhere..?

Because he shaves his head , has been poisoned with the amount of tattoos , wears wife beaters and thinks he is probably the toughest most macho creature on the planet .

As ever very little info in the report.

There is a good reason that these dogs - bred in the land of the free are banned in many countries. They can be a bit unpredictable to say the least.

Also you have to ask- why would anyone go out and buy one- it's a breed that should die out (along with most Bulldogs who suffer with horrendous medical problems) it's not a species.

[smudger1951]

Why would someone want one of those ugly mutts ? My Thai lady was bitten on the leg by a pitbull in in yensabi,pattaya. Self defence !

[Barin]

I carry a knife with me everywhere. How do they know he was drunk?

Yes, this a very wise thing to do in any country. You never know.

It's better to be on the safe side.

I totally agree with you.

[sn1per]

It's all in the breeding,

Quote from ASPA website "Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other. These larger, slower bull-baiting dogs were crossed with smaller, quicker terriers to produce a more agile and athletic dog for fighting other dogs." https://www.aspca.org/adopt/truth-about-pit-bulls

Edited July 11, 2015 by sn1per

[rijit]

I carry a knife with me everywhere. How do they know he was drunk?

Yes, this a very wise thing to do in any country. You never know.

It's better to be on the safe side.

I totally agree with you.

These 2 posts have to go down in my history on thai visa as just about the most scarily stupid I've had the misfortune to read and tbh joking aside i think you both need some professional help.

rijit

Edited July 11, 2015 by rijit

[Beetlejuice]

It's all in the breeding,

Quote from ASPA website "Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other. These larger, slower bull-baiting dogs were crossed with smaller, quicker terriers to produce a more agile and athletic dog for fighting other dogs." https://www.aspca.org/adopt/truth-about-pit-bulls

And this is the result today.

This breed is as dangerous and as powerful as a wolf or a hyena. These dogs should never be permitted to be kept as family pets or guard dogs or around people. One dog literally has the power to rip a person`s head off and rip apart a child like a rag doll.

Although any breed of dog, even the smallest can turn and bite, I will never see any justifications for keeping these hideous dangerous breeds of dogs.

Edited July 11, 2015 by Beetlejuice

[Alwyn]

I had me English Bull Terrier killed a few years ago, he was only a couple of years old and still a puppy really. He was never left to run the streets - we had a nice yard and garden all around the house, which was secure. He was never walked off the lead in the streets, totally, totally harmless. Some twunt poisoned him, the only thing we could think of was that burglars or house invaders were put off by him in the yard, so they poisoned him. That, or local Muslims. How interested were the police? You know the answer..

[konying]

It's all in the breeding,

Quote from ASPA website "Todays pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting doga dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other. These larger, slower bull-baiting dogs were crossed with smaller, quicker terriers to produce a more agile and athletic dog for fighting other dogs." https://www.aspca.org/adopt/truth-about-pit-bulls

And this is the result today.

This breed is as dangerous and as powerful as a wolf or a hyena. These dogs should never be permitted to be kept as family pets or guard dogs or around people. One dog literally has the power to rip a person`s head off and rip apart a child like a rag doll.

Although any breed of dog, even the smallest can turn and bite, I will never see any justifications for keeping these hideous dangerous breeds of dogs.

It's a good thing you do not have a clue about this breed or any breeds, otherwise you would look foolish posting photo of a bully claiming it's a pitbul;)

[Jimlove]

He look just as sick psycho as Putin if its the russki on pic ... Pitbull or russian ... hmmm who to cheer for ... ?

Why do anyone want a pitbull anyway ... ?

[konying]

I had me English Bull Terrier killed a few years ago, he was only a couple of years old and still a puppy really. He was never left to run the streets - we had a nice yard and garden all around the house, which was secure. He was never walked off the lead in the streets, totally, totally harmless. Some twunt poisoned him, the only thing we could think of was that burglars or house invaders were put off by him in the yard, so they poisoned him. That, or local Muslims. How interested were the police? You know the answer..

The story is not complete.

Russian did not kill the dog on the street but in old ladies house.

Old lady was being helped by PAC.

She called PAC to ask for help as she was scared Russian was going to kill her.

Instead he went into her house and killed the dog.

PAC called police and insisted on Russian being arrested for break and enter and murder of a dog.

Police did arrest him, but while getting all the facts , officer escorted him to hotel to get his passport .

While in the room , he escaped through the back window .

Police has his passport copy and all the info.

Once arrested he is looking at 7 years jail for both offences if convicted.

Can read proper story on PAC site

[Lopchan]

His encounter with the dog ended up with him kicking and then stabbing the dog.

It was not made clear if the dog was attacking the Russian at the time or not.

Not made clear

My view:

A pitbull rerrier. what a "nice little puppie"!

This bad Russian man killed the nice little puppie

Encounter with the dog:

It just wanted to lick his foot

One of these lying Thai crooks wanting to pressure some money from the farang for oneselfs reckless behavior (walking a fighting dog without a rope and a muzzle).

Two of these monsters almost killed one my peaceful dogs while walking past a house.

I hit them with a thick bamboo stick as hard as I could. It broke,

You can't stop these killers, except with a bullet or a knife.

Yet another of the ill informed public who hate pit bulls for no other reason than their (unjustified) reputation.

All dogs are territorial and all will defend what they believe to be their territory. I've been bitten by 2 yes two, little pookie-wookie-fluffy wuffy, piece of crud, yapping, puppy-wuppies when walking.

It is not about the breed of the dog, it's about the owners. How many pitbull owners have them to show their b@lls because they lack them themselves.They are the cause of the problem, training their animals to be aggressive.

[whatproblem]

The owner of the dog should be punished for letting it roam free

[Equalizer]

For those of you who are saying that this breed of dog are killers know nothing about pitbulls. Firstly if you want to locate the killer you need to be looking at the other end of the lead. The truth is these dogs are super social animals and need to be brought up mixing with people from the beginning. Now if this dog is a full American pitbull ''which i doubt'' looking at the pic and it was 7 months old and has been raised freely mixing with patrons it would be 90% safe to assume he has been socialized and none aggressive with humans. Also a 7 month American pitbull would be smaller than the dog in the picture. It looks like he has a taller breed mixed in.

A pitbull becomes aggressive when it is locked away and has little or no human contact. When a pitbull is fully grown it can not be allowed to roam freely because of the dangers associated with other soi dogs. ''Not people''. this goes for socialized pitbulls as well. My pitbull is now 14 months old and soi dogs approach him when i walk him on his lead. They want to kill him, he wants to lick them to death. He is young and naive and i have already had vet bills from sio dog bites on his back side whilst on the lead. I know one day he would return the favour.

[Equalizer]

And so??

Keep your loving dog chained. 7 Month is a big matured pitbull. Dont let that7 months delude you.

No it is not at all. A 7 month old pitbull is skinny and small. Pitbulls start to bulk out after 15 months and up to 3 years old where they are at their peak.

[Equalizer]

It's all in the breeding,

Quote from ASPA website "Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other. These larger, slower bull-baiting dogs were crossed with smaller, quicker terriers to produce a more agile and athletic dog for fighting other dogs." https://www.aspca.org/adopt/truth-about-pit-bulls

I have not read your link however pit bulls descend directly from Staffordshire bull terriers.

[LennyW]

For those of you who are saying that this breed of dog are killers know nothing about pitbulls. Firstly if you want to locate the killer you need to be looking at the other end of the lead. The truth is these dogs are super social animals and need to be brought up mixing with people from the beginning. Now if this dog is a full American pitbull ''which i doubt'' looking at the pic and it was 7 months old and has been raised freely mixing with patrons it would be 90% safe to assume he has been socialized and none aggressive with humans. Also a 7 month American pitbull would be smaller than the dog in the picture. It looks like he has a taller breed mixed in.

A pitbull becomes aggressive when it is locked away and has little or no human contact. When a pitbull is fully grown it can not be allowed to roam freely because of the dangers associated with other soi dogs. ''Not people''. this goes for socialized pitbulls as well. My pitbull is now 14 months old and soi dogs approach him when i walk him on his lead. They want to kill him, he wants to lick them to death. He is young and naive and i have already had vet bills from sio dog bites on his back side whilst on the lead. I know one day he would return the favour.

A very sensible post, surprised no one else noticed that the one in the pic is definitely not a pit bull of any kind, just someone claimed it was. Someone once tried to sell me two pedigree ban keaw pups...i guarantee a ban keaw never even sniffed their mothers erse.

The dog, whatever breed it may be is not the main concern here.....a Wanted Russian armed with a knife is!

[Beetlejuice]

For those of you who are saying that this breed of dog are killers know nothing about pitbulls. Firstly if you want to locate the killer you need to be looking at the other end of the lead. The truth is these dogs are super social animals and need to be brought up mixing with people from the beginning. Now if this dog is a full American pitbull ''which i doubt'' looking at the pic and it was 7 months old and has been raised freely mixing with patrons it would be 90% safe to assume he has been socialized and none aggressive with humans. Also a 7 month American pitbull would be smaller than the dog in the picture. It looks like he has a taller breed mixed in.

A pitbull becomes aggressive when it is locked away and has little or no human contact. When a pitbull is fully grown it can not be allowed to roam freely because of the dangers associated with other soi dogs. ''Not people''. this goes for socialized pitbulls as well. My pitbull is now 14 months old and soi dogs approach him when i walk him on his lead. They want to kill him, he wants to lick them to death. He is young and naive and i have already had vet bills from sio dog bites on his back side whilst on the lead. I know one day he would return the favour.

True, just like locating the killer at the other side of a barrel.

Owning a pit bull is the same as owning a gun. Once loaded both can kill.

Like guns pit bulls should only be owned under special licence and again like guns, pit bull owners should have to justify their reasons for owning one.

Anyone who wants a dog as a family pet have no reasons for such powerful dogs as pit bulls. As I said; this breed is mostly a status symbol for the lower classes, because pit bulls install fear into the majority of people and that`s the main reasons certain people like to own them, it give them a warped sense of power. It`s that simple.

Edited July 11, 2015 by Beetlejuice

[bheard]

This sounds like a case of an irresponsible dog owner. As a runner and cyclist I am constantly menaced by dogs, not soi dogs, not temple dogs, peoples dogs, people who are normally standing idly by while their dogs chase and will if I let them bite me. On my bike a carry a bottle of water that's been boiled with chili peppers as a non-lethal self defense which I used on a wealthy woman's two Rottweilers that had chased me a half of kilometer from her house. When the dogs went yelping home she called the police on me. I am a dog owner and lover but the irresponsibility of many dog owners here is so common and dangerous it's one of the biggest problems with living in Thailand in my opinion.

Totally agree, I don't ride anymore in Thailand, one major reason is the dogs. The owners are exactly as you describe - useless or worse.

I can picture in this case the dog cramped to that Russian leg. What to do but use lethal force?

[jesimps]

I'm on the Russians side here, which is a bit unusual for me and Russians. Too many dogs are allowed to roam loose in Thailand, it's a big big problem. The guy may have a dog phobia and when one of those pitbulls growls at you, even a young one, it can cause a lump to appear in the back of your trousers. In my opinion the pitbull breed should be eradicated, they're bred for fighting. If you want a dog and don't intend using it for agro, what's wrong with a friendly breed?

Most Thais show no sense of responsibility when they own dogs. They let them do their own thing. A lot of dog owners are out at work all day while their dogs are running free. I live on a golf course, and although I like dogs, when I go for a walk or bike ride, I always take a packet of dog chews and a stick. There are always several dogs (some with collars) ready to give you some grief. Most of the houses on the course are owned by farang but of course most of them have Thai wives which means that gates tend to get left open.

Knowing the bib they'll make him pay a sweetener to the woman which will assuage her grief in a milli-second.

Edited July 11, 2015 by jesimps

[Equalizer]

For those of you who are saying that this breed of dog are killers know nothing about pitbulls. Firstly if you want to locate the killer you need to be looking at the other end of the lead. The truth is these dogs are super social animals and need to be brought up mixing with people from the beginning. Now if this dog is a full American pitbull ''which i doubt'' looking at the pic and it was 7 months old and has been raised freely mixing with patrons it would be 90% safe to assume he has been socialized and none aggressive with humans. Also a 7 month American pitbull would be smaller than the dog in the picture. It looks like he has a taller breed mixed in.

A pitbull becomes aggressive when it is locked away and has little or no human contact. When a pitbull is fully grown it can not be allowed to roam freely because of the dangers associated with other soi dogs. ''Not people''. this goes for socialized pitbulls as well. My pitbull is now 14 months old and soi dogs approach him when i walk him on his lead. They want to kill him, he wants to lick them to death. He is young and naive and i have already had vet bills from sio dog bites on his back side whilst on the lead. I know one day he would return the favour.

True, just like locating the killer at the other side of a barrel.

Owning a pit bull is the same as owning a gun. Once loaded both can kill.

Like guns pit bulls should only be owned under special licence and again like guns, pit bull owners should have to justify their reasons for owning one.

Anyone who wants a dog as a family pet have no reasons for such powerful dogs as pit bulls. As I said; this breed is mostly a status symbol for the lower classes, because pit bulls install fear into the majority of people and that`s the main reasons certain people like to own them, it give them a warped sense of power. It`s that simple.

Well we don't own guns in the UK mate. However under very special circumstances farmers can own them. Well i suppose if you did own a gun someone trying to rob, rape and pillage your home would be in for a surprise! Bit like a pittbull really isn't it.

[onemorechang]

Only a pea brain would want an American pit bull dog as a pet.

Get a life

Amazing Muppets in Thailand.