Kentucky clerk case divides religious liberty advocates

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Kentucky clerk case divides religious liberty advocates
By TRAVIS LOLLER

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Kentucky clerk Kim Davis has become a hero to many conservative Christians who see her refusal to issue marriage licenses after the Supreme Court effectively legalized same-sex marriage as a litmus test for religious liberty in an increasingly secular culture.

But lost in the uproar are the voices of Christians, some equally conservative, who disagree with Davis' stance and worry that holding her out as a martyr will ultimately hurt the cause of religious liberty.

"I think she's wrong on the merits, wrong theologically and her stance is harmful to Christians both in the religious liberty debate and in trying to present Christianity to the watching world," said Peter Wehner, a Christian commentator who served in the last three Republican presidential administrations.

Many religious conservatives have shifted their focus in recent years from trying to stop the legalization of same-sex marriage to carving out protections for those who object to it on religious grounds. A Washington florist who was fined over her refusal to provide flowers for a same-sex wedding is celebrated by conservative Christian leaders across the U.S. who point to her story as an example of government overreach they fear will only grow.

But Davis' position as a government official has some of those same conservative leaders warning that she may not be the ideal figure to rally around. As Rod Dreher, a senior editor at "The American Conservative," put it in a recent essay, Davis' case is "not the hill to die on." Rather, a line in the sand should be drawn "when they start trying to tell us how to run our own religious institutions - churches, schools, hospitals, and the like - and trying to close them or otherwise destroy them for refusing to accept LGBT ideology."

Both Dreher and Wehner have expressed concerns that Davis' case will drive away support for religious liberty by stirring up anger at a public servant who refuses to do her job, let a subordinate do it, or resign.

There is no one Christian response to Davis' situation. Faced with having to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples in Tennessee, the clerk of Decatur County resigned in July along with two employees in her office. Elsewhere, Christian clerks with religious objections to gay marriage have found ways to reconcile their faith with their duties.

Brenda Wynn, the clerk of Davidson County in Nashville, looks to Romans 13:1 for guidance: "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established."

"I'm obliged to follow the law of the land," Wynn said. "I love the Lord, but I must follow the law."

In federal court, Davis testified that her objection to issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples was not based on any sin she thinks the couple might commit. She said it was based on the Biblical definition of marriage as "a union between one man and one woman."

That's different from giving licenses to people who have been divorced, she said. The Bible prohibits divorce in most cases, but Davis said, "That's between them and God."

Asked in court why she doesn't resign her position Davis said, "Because if I resign, that leaves my deputies to deal with this."

Before she was jailed for five days for disobeying a court order, Davis refused to let anyone in her office issue marriage licenses. In court she pleaded for an accommodation, changing the licenses so that they do not bear her name.

"There is a solution out there that everybody can be happy, and it can be done so that nobody has to be compromised in any way," she said.

North Carolina has attempted to accommodate officials like Davis, allowing some register of deeds workers who assemble marriage licenses and magistrates who solemnize civil marriages to recuse themselves. No similar accommodation is likely in Kentucky before January, when the legislature goes back into session. That could be too late for Davis, who says she will return to work Monday but has not said what she will do.

Southern Baptist Convention leader Russell Moore recently helped put together a legal guide for churches called "Protecting Your Ministry from Sexual Orientation Gender Identity Lawsuits."

He shares the concern of some other conservative Christians that the religious liberty rights of a government official should not be conflated with that of a private citizen. But he also believes the entire conflict with Davis could have been avoided.

"I hope that what comes out of the Kim Davis case is that we agree to sit down and find a way to protect the consciences of people when it comes to issues they cannot morally endorse," he said. "The state of Kentucky so far doesn't have much of an answer besides jailing people."


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-09-14

[daoyai]

Ho hum, isn't her 15 minutes of fame over yet?

[Seastallion]

The issue is so stupid.

This says it all, how ridiculous Davis' position is.

[northernboy]

if she isn't willing to do her job as required by law ask her to resign or relocate her to less conflicting to her beliefs position.

[Scott]

if she isn't willing to do her job as required by law ask her to resign or relocate her to less conflicting to her beliefs position.

You mean an inactive post?

[klauskunkel]

At least she put Kentucky on the map - for all the wrong reasons, though

[sfokevin]

Exodus 21:7...

Edited September 14, 2015 by sfokevin

[FangFerang]

The news article title is misleading and a great example of pretending there is a controversy when one of a hundred people sits opposite a person representing the other 99 at a talk show, which makes the audience believe there is really a division when there is not. Davis is a hypocrite who is twice divorced (against biblical restrictions) who lied when she took an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States, and is a look-alike for Cheney's evil twin sister..

It's an illusion to claim this storm in a tea cup "controversy" is backed by even ten percent of the population.......

Just like the climate "debate". Less than one percent of scientists worldwide do not believe the climate is changing, especially since the Greenland ice shelf is melting so fast the the land is rising more than an inch a year (which is insanely fast geologically).

All the climate "deniers" have vested interests in fossil fuels.

The news media takes facts and weaves artificial controversies. It keeps everyone distracted.

Edited September 14, 2015 by FangFerang

[stevenl]

The news article title is misleading and a great example of pretending there is a controversy when one of a hundred people sits opposite a person representing the other 99 at a talk show, which makes the audience believe there is really a division when there is not. Davis is a hypocrite who is twice divorced (against biblical restrictions) who lied when she took an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States, and is a look-alike for Cheney's evil twin sister..

It's an illusion to claim this storm in a tea cup "controversy" is backed by even ten percent of the population.......

Just like the climate "debate". Less than one percent of scientists worldwide do not believe the climate is changing, especially since the Greenland ice shelf is melting so fast the the land is rising more than an inch a year (which is insanely fast geologically).

All the climate "deniers" have vested interests in fossil fuels.

The news media takes facts and weaves artificial controversies. It keeps everyone distracted.

Agree with your general sentiment, but the title in this case is correct. It is about a division within the religious liberty advocates, it is not about a division between pro and con Davis.

[zaphod reborn]

This issue was decided during the civil rights era. Government officials can't refuse to abide by the rule of law, particularly when the law is decreed by the US Supreme Court, as there is no other branch of government empowered to rule on the constitutionality of a law. It is a statement of extremism and a lack of respect for the Constitution for these nutters to support Davis. And the same goes for Trump and his supporters. Change the Constitution if you want to impose your crazy ideas on the rest of the U.S.

[elgordo38]

Google the Rodney Rainbow cell block video its a hoot.

[Friendly Stranger]

Nothing wrong with ones beliefs, but using religion in a context for almost anything you can think of is stretching it.

[cookee68]

Who gives a toss, it's all religion these days does my tit in