Yingluck Rice Subsidy Trial to Stretch Through End of Next Year

[lucky11]

When are the elections?

What? You're in such a hurry to buy votes to have a bunch of yeah-sayers of MP's to push through an amnesty in the middle of the night for her and the crooks around, too, is it? How typical! And that's what you guys call 'democracy', hmm?!

Or perhaps he (we) just thinks that the Thai people should have the right to select their government rather than any passing general approaching retirement, even if they are egged on by people on this forum whose contempt for the Thai electorate is proudly displayed!

We don't have contempt for the Thai people - we have contempt for the previous government that has cost Thailand so dear and must ensure they they are prevented ever again from raping and bleeding Thailand dry!!

[JAG]

When are the elections?

What? You're in such a hurry to buy votes to have a bunch of yeah-sayers of MP's to push through an amnesty in the middle of the night for her and the crooks around, too, is it? How typical! And that's what you guys call 'democracy', hmm?!

Or perhaps he (we) just thinks that the Thai people should have the right to select their government rather than any passing general approaching retirement, even if they are egged on by people on this forum whose contempt for the Thai electorate is proudly displayed!

We don't have contempt for the Thai people - we have contempt for the previous government that has cost Thailand so dear and must ensure they they are prevented ever again from raping and bleeding Thailand dry!!

So you lend your support to a minority movement which (illegally) prevented an election, which would have allowed the Thai people to judge that government, and to a junta which will not hold an election, again so that the Thai people can decide.

But you don't have contempt for them, or their views?

Righty Ho, that seems clear enough!

[jayboy]

When are the elections?

What? You're in such a hurry to buy votes to have a bunch of yeah-sayers of MP's to push through an amnesty in the middle of the night for her and the crooks around, too, is it? How typical! And that's what you guys call 'democracy', hmm?!

Or perhaps he (we) just thinks that the Thai people should have the right to select their government rather than any passing general approaching retirement, even if they are egged on by people on this forum whose contempt for the Thai electorate is proudly displayed!

We don't have contempt for the Thai people - we have contempt for the previous government that has cost Thailand so dear and must ensure they they are prevented ever again from raping and bleeding Thailand dry!!

I'm not quite sure how your statement is consistent with dismissing the decision resulting in a government elected by the Thai people in an election universally accepted as fair and democratic.Sounds a whole lot like contempt to me.

An honest position would be to admit you have cast your lot in with a minority faction which itself has contempt - naturally hidden by various bits of jiggery pokery - for the majority of Thai people.

[tbthailand]

When are the elections?

What? You're in such a hurry to buy votes to have a bunch of yeah-sayers of MP's to push through an amnesty in the middle of the night for her and the crooks around, too, is it? How typical! And that's what you guys call 'democracy', hmm?!

vote buying is not an issue. it makes for great propaganda from anti-democratic groups, but that is about all it does...

http://www.voanews.com/content/asian-observer-group-commends-thai-election-cites-minor-flaws--125003034/141777.html

[tbthailand]

so the current, self-imposed government will be able to keep the former elected PM in the spotlight while throwing "it's all the fault of elected politicians" and "democracy trap" clap-trap mud at her without convicting her of anything and thereby avoid turning her into a political martyr...

Pretty good propaganda strategy for the current bunch of clowns.... maybe they do have someone who understands strategy.

[BigBadGeordie]

And I thought Jutaporn had been sentenced to two years in prison..... is he still appealing..?

Not "appealing" to me but each to their own, whatever rocks your boat ;-)

[Si Thea01]

She'll be remembered for her calmness amidst the storm and her poise as the wolves yap and bay for blood

They will turn her into a martyr

A martyr? I'd suggest you learn the definition before posting such an inane remark. So it's ok by you for someone, who placed herself in charge, never attended a meeting and allowed billions to be milked out off the system, despite being warned of the corruption taking place, not to be held to account?

In doing so, she was clearly negligent, which is what the charge relates to, not corruption or theft as some here are on about. Criminal negligence is not that hard to prove, especially when given her admissions.

Of course she will show poise and calm, foolish to do anything else. The wolves are yapping and baying for blood? If it was your money, over 500 billion, how would you feel and what action would you take to rectify the situation? Wouldn't you want to be compensated or would you just put it down to bad luck and inexperience? Doubt it.

[Joe Brennan]

She'll be remembered for her calmness amidst the storm and her poise as the wolves yap and bay for blood

They will turn her into a martyr

A martyr? I'd suggest you learn the definition before posting such an inane remark. So it's ok by you for someone, who placed herself in charge, never attended a meeting and allowed billions to be milked out off the system, despite being warned of the corruption taking place, not to be held to account?

In doing so, she was clearly negligent, which is what the charge relates to, not corruption or theft as some here are on about. Criminal negligence is not that hard to prove, especially when given her admissions.

Of course she will show poise and calm, foolish to do anything else. The wolves are yapping and baying for blood? If it was your money, over 500 billion, how would you feel and what action would you take to rectify the situation? Wouldn't you want to be compensated or would you just put it down to bad luck and inexperience? Doubt it.

*yawn* same ole same ole.

None of it will matter anyway, Prayuth will be long gone by the end of next year, along with some others of his ilk. I doubt many people will even remember him or them. Thais have a short little span of attention.

So it isn't really important. Not in the overall scheme of things, the game moves on.

[Joe Brennan]

"driver sanctimonious lectures" - what a strange choice of words? How does one "driver" a lecture?

For bears of little brain devoid of the ability to counter an argument, there's always the comfort zone of being able to seize on a typo in this case "driver" for "deliver".Well done.

For jayboy's of inflated egos the validity of their often erudite comments become masked by the constant need for condescending pomposity.

Those unable to discuss other's views in a balanced way and resorting to insults and sarcasm, believing it some how shows them to be clever rather than simply biased and inadequate loose credibility,

Sad really, and perhaps deserves empathy.

Oh I don't know, you did rather invite it. Sort of like painting 'kick me' on your trousers. If you can't take it, perhaps you shouldn't dish it out.

[cookee68]

more like end of 2026

[tomwct]

When are the elections?

Why do you want more elections? All you get is more Corruption! Thailand hasn't had any Good Politicians in the last 25 years or more! The Corrupt Office Holders are there for one reason, to get "steal" as much money from the Thai people, as they can! They buy their Votes and Thai's accept their money! This is not a Democracy! The longer Thailand puts off elections, the better off the Thai People are? They are now Happy with the present system, so lets not Rock The Boat!

[cobbler]

Agree 1million% tomwot

[Wombat6]

She'll be remembered for her calmness amidst the storm and her poise as the wolves yap and bay for blood

They will turn her into a martyr

She will be remembered for cheating, Lying, being stupid and the worst PM in Thai History. Her "calmness" is due to her looking dumfounded and unable to realise what is going on.

[Wombat6]

When are the elections?

Why worry ?? You don't get to vote.

[Wombat6]

When are the elections?

Why worry ?? You don't get to vote.

[Thai at Heart]

When are the elections?

Why worry ?? You don't get to vote.

Moonraker

[Thai at Heart]

When are the elections?

Why worry ?? You don't get to vote.

Katie Perry

[Wombat6]

When are the elections?

What? You're in such a hurry to buy votes to have a bunch of yeah-sayers of MP's to push through an amnesty in the middle of the night for her and the crooks around, too, is it? How typical! And that's what you guys call 'democracy', hmm?!

Sorry, you didn't answer my question...... Feel free to take your rants elsewhere. Why does a case like this take apparently so long? Wouldn't it all be better if it was wrapped up a little quicker?

Or do you think by magic the current junta might just stay around long enough to make sure this is cleared up before.

What I want is that they get a way to get back to democracy, Yingluck either convicted or not and Thailand to get on with being Thailand instead of stuck in this groundhog existence of elections, protests and coups.

I heard may next year. What did you hear?

One of the possible reasons for the length of the Trial is due to the number of witnesses. Yingluck has come up with a whole heap of them. How many witnesses does it take to give an excuse why she didn't attend any of the rice scheme meetings??

[cobbler]

She'll be remembered for her calmness amidst the storm and her poise as the wolves yap and bay for blood

They will turn her into a martyr

She will be remembered for cheating, Lying, being stupid and the worst PM in Thai History. Her "calmness" is due to her looking dumfounded and unable to realise what is going on.

professional liar. If an uneducated bargirl can convince an educated farang shes telling the truth. How about an educated woman!

[rubl]

You are of course correct but you are too gentle with this nonsensical and ignorant post.

Somebody who uses the expression " high intellectual levels" when he presumably means "intelligence" is not in a position to driver sanctimonious lectures.

Again we have an example of the dullard's inability to distinguish between education and intelligence.The distinction is rather crucial.In any case all the evidence suggests that Thais of all backgrounds are perfectly capable of deciding how voting will improve the lives of their families and communities.

It is also an absurd idea to believe that the well educated and well off vote in a "purer" mode than their less favoured fellow citizens.

The suggestion that elections in Thailand are won by vote buying is a weary canard.No serious person believes this now though it has some currency among the ignorant and prejudiced.

Last week Pheu Thai issued a statement about the wonderfull RPPS. They claim to have paid 800 billion Baht directly to 3.7 million rice farming families representing 23% of the Thai population.

Now that's what I call vote buying new style and the party is even proud of it. Seems they try hard to let everyone forget they positioned the scam as 'self-financing' and that they even let the blanket amnesty bill cover till 2013-08-09, the first two years Yingluck mal-administration.

So the last government fulfilled its pledge of supporting the relatively disadvantaged majority rural population.It should be applauded for that even if there were flaws in implementation.

Meanwhile the urban population particularly Bangkok has for decades enjoyed vastly disproportionate government funds directed at health services,education and infrastructure.That is the true vote buying scandal which somehow the apologists for repression never happen to mention.

When I hear Juntophiles complaining about "populism" and "vote buying" the hypocrisy not to mention the extreme stupidity makes me want to retch.

So, the previous government positioned their grand RPPS as 'self-financing', pays out 800 billion Baht to their rice farming voters and all are happy about the democratic aspects of that ? No need to charge Yingluck with 'negligence' as 800 billion Baht has gone to the right people. All poor rice farmers are now rich?

Next the 'but Bangkok' distraction. The Bangkok where maybe 60 or more percent of the population comes from outside. Sure shutdown Bangkok.

As for your last sentence, you try to suggest too much by putting a few terms together. That's not good for your health and can cause you to retch.

PS did you already write to the publishers of the OCD? Every year they like to include new words. Your juntophiles may just make it, although I wonder if it's shouldn't be juntaphiles.

[jayboy]

You are of course correct but you are too gentle with this nonsensical and ignorant post.

Somebody who uses the expression " high intellectual levels" when he presumably means "intelligence" is not in a position to driver sanctimonious lectures.

Again we have an example of the dullard's inability to distinguish between education and intelligence.The distinction is rather crucial.In any case all the evidence suggests that Thais of all backgrounds are perfectly capable of deciding how voting will improve the lives of their families and communities.

It is also an absurd idea to believe that the well educated and well off vote in a "purer" mode than their less favoured fellow citizens.

The suggestion that elections in Thailand are won by vote buying is a weary canard.No serious person believes this now though it has some currency among the ignorant and prejudiced.

Last week Pheu Thai issued a statement about the wonderfull RPPS. They claim to have paid 800 billion Baht directly to 3.7 million rice farming families representing 23% of the Thai population.

Now that's what I call vote buying new style and the party is even proud of it. Seems they try hard to let everyone forget they positioned the scam as 'self-financing' and that they even let the blanket amnesty bill cover till 2013-08-09, the first two years Yingluck mal-administration.

So the last government fulfilled its pledge of supporting the relatively disadvantaged majority rural population.It should be applauded for that even if there were flaws in implementation.

Meanwhile the urban population particularly Bangkok has for decades enjoyed vastly disproportionate government funds directed at health services,education and infrastructure.That is the true vote buying scandal which somehow the apologists for repression never happen to mention.

When I hear Juntophiles complaining about "populism" and "vote buying" the hypocrisy not to mention the extreme stupidity makes me want to retch.

So, the previous government positioned their grand RPPS as 'self-financing', pays out 800 billion Baht to their rice farming voters and all are happy about the democratic aspects of that ? No need to charge Yingluck with 'negligence' as 800 billion Baht has gone to the right people. All poor rice farmers are now rich?

Next the 'but Bangkok' distraction. The Bangkok where maybe 60 or more percent of the population comes from outside. Sure shutdown Bangkok.

As for your last sentence, you try to suggest too much by putting a few terms together. That's not good for your health and can cause you to retch.

PS did you already write to the publishers of the OCD? Every year they like to include new words. Your juntophiles may just make it, although I wonder if it's shouldn't be juntaphiles.

The scheme was flawed.Its purpose was nevertheless justified and democratically legitimate.If there was maladministration it should be investigated.If there was corruption it should be punished.The current witch hunt goes far beyond these parameters, its purpose being to eradicate all Shinawatra influence.That's not an unreasonable objective but let's not dignify the lie that this is all somehow constitutional.

The absurdly skewed government expenditure on Bangkok is not as you suggest a distraction but directly relevant to the charge of "populism".The percentage of outsiders is not as high as you suggest but in any event these are not the people generally enjoying the urban benefits referred to earlier.The prime beneficiaries are the mainly Sino Thai middle class.

If you can think of a better term for the small collection of foreigners who don't believe Thais are entitled to live in a democracy, by all means write off to whoever you like.

[rubl]

Last week Pheu Thai issued a statement about the wonderfull RPPS. They claim to have paid 800 billion Baht directly to 3.7 million rice farming families representing 23% of the Thai population.

Now that's what I call vote buying new style and the party is even proud of it. Seems they try hard to let everyone forget they positioned the scam as 'self-financing' and that they even let the blanket amnesty bill cover till 2013-08-09, the first two years Yingluck mal-administration.

So the last government fulfilled its pledge of supporting the relatively disadvantaged majority rural population.It should be applauded for that even if there were flaws in implementation.

Meanwhile the urban population particularly Bangkok has for decades enjoyed vastly disproportionate government funds directed at health services,education and infrastructure.That is the true vote buying scandal which somehow the apologists for repression never happen to mention.

When I hear Juntophiles complaining about "populism" and "vote buying" the hypocrisy not to mention the extreme stupidity makes me want to retch.

So, the previous government positioned their grand RPPS as 'self-financing', pays out 800 billion Baht to their rice farming voters and all are happy about the democratic aspects of that ? No need to charge Yingluck with 'negligence' as 800 billion Baht has gone to the right people. All poor rice farmers are now rich?

Next the 'but Bangkok' distraction. The Bangkok where maybe 60 or more percent of the population comes from outside. Sure shutdown Bangkok.

As for your last sentence, you try to suggest too much by putting a few terms together. That's not good for your health and can cause you to retch.

PS did you already write to the publishers of the OCD? Every year they like to include new words. Your juntophiles may just make it, although I wonder if it's shouldn't be juntaphiles.

The scheme was flawed.Its purpose was nevertheless justified and democratically legitimate.If there was maladministration it should be investigated.If there was corruption it should be punished.The current witch hunt goes far beyond these parameters, its purpose being to eradicate all Shinawatra influence.That's not an unreasonable objective but let's not dignify the lie that this is all somehow constitutional.

The absurdly skewed government expenditure on Bangkok is not as you suggest a distraction but directly relevant to the charge of "populism".The percentage of outsiders is not as high as you suggest but in any event these are not the people generally enjoying the urban benefits referred to earlier.The prime beneficiaries are the mainly Sino Thai middle class.

If you can think of a better term for the small collection of foreigners who don't believe Thais are entitled to live in a democracy, by all means write off to whoever you like.

The scheme was flawed indeed. Positioned and defended as 'self-financing', kept out of the National Budget and parliament control because of such positioning, etc., etc. The government even trying to push through a blanket amnesty bill related to 'unrest' and happen to include their own first two years in office as if they needed it.

Now this may surprise you, but the maladministration has been investigated and has lead to a charge of 'negligence'. That's what the court case is about. The 'witch hunt' part is just denigrating with Ms. Yingluck still somewhat lovely (as the Lanna guy keeps telling us).

Not sure about your last line. Thaksinistras comes to mind, but I doubt you'd agree. Maybe you like the 'democracy elite style' as advocated by Pheu Thai.

[jayboy]

Last week Pheu Thai issued a statement about the wonderfull RPPS. They claim to have paid 800 billion Baht directly to 3.7 million rice farming families representing 23% of the Thai population.

Now that's what I call vote buying new style and the party is even proud of it. Seems they try hard to let everyone forget they positioned the scam as 'self-financing' and that they even let the blanket amnesty bill cover till 2013-08-09, the first two years Yingluck mal-administration.

So the last government fulfilled its pledge of supporting the relatively disadvantaged majority rural population.It should be applauded for that even if there were flaws in implementation.

Meanwhile the urban population particularly Bangkok has for decades enjoyed vastly disproportionate government funds directed at health services,education and infrastructure.That is the true vote buying scandal which somehow the apologists for repression never happen to mention.

When I hear Juntophiles complaining about "populism" and "vote buying" the hypocrisy not to mention the extreme stupidity makes me want to retch.

So, the previous government positioned their grand RPPS as 'self-financing', pays out 800 billion Baht to their rice farming voters and all are happy about the democratic aspects of that ? No need to charge Yingluck with 'negligence' as 800 billion Baht has gone to the right people. All poor rice farmers are now rich?

Next the 'but Bangkok' distraction. The Bangkok where maybe 60 or more percent of the population comes from outside. Sure shutdown Bangkok.

As for your last sentence, you try to suggest too much by putting a few terms together. That's not good for your health and can cause you to retch.

PS did you already write to the publishers of the OCD? Every year they like to include new words. Your juntophiles may just make it, although I wonder if it's shouldn't be juntaphiles.

The scheme was flawed.Its purpose was nevertheless justified and democratically legitimate.If there was maladministration it should be investigated.If there was corruption it should be punished.The current witch hunt goes far beyond these parameters, its purpose being to eradicate all Shinawatra influence.That's not an unreasonable objective but let's not dignify the lie that this is all somehow constitutional.

The absurdly skewed government expenditure on Bangkok is not as you suggest a distraction but directly relevant to the charge of "populism".The percentage of outsiders is not as high as you suggest but in any event these are not the people generally enjoying the urban benefits referred to earlier.The prime beneficiaries are the mainly Sino Thai middle class.

If you can think of a better term for the small collection of foreigners who don't believe Thais are entitled to live in a democracy, by all means write off to whoever you like.

The scheme was flawed indeed. Positioned and defended as 'self-financing', kept out of the National Budget and parliament control because of such positioning, etc., etc. The government even trying to push through a blanket amnesty bill related to 'unrest' and happen to include their own first two years in office as if they needed it.

Now this may surprise you, but the maladministration has been investigated and has lead to a charge of 'negligence'. That's what the court case is about. The 'witch hunt' part is just denigrating with Ms. Yingluck still somewhat lovely (as the Lanna guy keeps telling us).

Not sure about your last line. Thaksinistras comes to mind, but I doubt you'd agree. Maybe you like the 'democracy elite style' as advocated by Pheu Thai.

1.I agree the scheme was flawed.Off balance sheet financing is not however unknown and in Thailand was in fact pioneered by the Democrats.

2.The blanket amnesty is not relevant to this discussion.As it happens I opposed it.Nevertheless something like that will eventually have to be implemented.Of course if as "good people" you are certain like Abhisit and Suthep that your crimes are never going to be punished by the courts your attitude to amnesty is going to be somewhat relaxed.

3.The court case is not "all about" negligence.That is the pretext for the witch hunt.I am not suggesting negligence and corruption shouldn't be investigated - but that isn't what's driving this current exercise.

4.I do not understand your last paragraph.

[cobbler]

Since most farang are married to issan girls and yingluck and Thaksin get most of there votes from that area. Im surprised that there isnt a lot more support for yinglucks family.

Do people think that thai politicians pay millions and millions of bart to get a good seat in politics because they want to give the money away. Nope ,they do it knowing they are going to make an endless supply of money after they are in .

I know the owner of Rinrada apartments on theperak rd samut prakan gave 5million bart and then another 13million bart to try to get a seat in politics . It wasnt enough. They knocked him back. He lost his money too. I know these people as my wife used to be there accountant for years.

My point is that they are all super corrupt. Standing up for 1 side or the other is a waste of your feelings.

The thing that yingluck gove did that was worse than other govs is she bogged the country into billions of dollars debt to IMF . What did she achieve with those billions of $$$ from IMF? Verry little. Because most of it went into her families and her friends pockets . Not careing about the thais who voted for her. This makes fools of the people who vote for her . No skin off my nose as i dont care, but i feel sorry for her voters who just live in hope and are happy if a politician gives them 500 bart at election time

[rubl]

1.I agree the scheme was flawed.Off balance sheet financing is not however unknown and in Thailand was in fact pioneered by the Democrats.

2.The blanket amnesty is not relevant to this discussion.As it happens I opposed it.Nevertheless something like that will eventually have to be implemented.Of course if as "good people" you are certain like Abhisit and Suthep that your crimes are never going to be punished by the courts your attitude to amnesty is going to be somewhat relaxed.

3.The court case is not "all about" negligence.That is the pretext for the witch hunt.I am not suggesting negligence and corruption shouldn't be investigated - but that isn't what's driving this current exercise.

4.I do not understand your last paragraph.

ad. 1. The scam was positioned as 'self-financing'. That's the whole issue which lots here try to ignore and / or forget.

ad. 2. The blanket amnesty is not relevant as such, but as circumstantial evidence suggests that we cannot switch from 'negligence' to 'ignorance', but rather to 'criminal and defrauding'.

ad. 3. The court case is a charge of 'negligence'. The 'witch hunt' on Yingluck (aka hunt for Mae Mot Yingluck) is on her negligence, her defense of her 'self-financing' scam while losing money. In the end the BAAC was waiting for 750 billion Baht to be paid back to them by 'the government'. Two weeks ago Pheu Thai stated 'in defence' that 800 billion Baht had been paid directly to rice farmers. As they and you should know the rice farmers are still poor, most of those 3.6 million families representing 23% of Thailand's population.

ad. 4. You always write that when you do not want to understand. Never mind.

[jayboy]

1.I agree the scheme was flawed.Off balance sheet financing is not however unknown and in Thailand was in fact pioneered by the Democrats.

2.The blanket amnesty is not relevant to this discussion.As it happens I opposed it.Nevertheless something like that will eventually have to be implemented.Of course if as "good people" you are certain like Abhisit and Suthep that your crimes are never going to be punished by the courts your attitude to amnesty is going to be somewhat relaxed.

3.The court case is not "all about" negligence.That is the pretext for the witch hunt.I am not suggesting negligence and corruption shouldn't be investigated - but that isn't what's driving this current exercise.

4.I do not understand your last paragraph.

ad. 1. The scam was positioned as 'self-financing'. That's the whole issue which lots here try to ignore and / or forget.

ad. 2. The blanket amnesty is not relevant as such, but as circumstantial evidence suggests that we cannot switch from 'negligence' to 'ignorance', but rather to 'criminal and defrauding'.

ad. 3. The court case is a charge of 'negligence'. The 'witch hunt' on Yingluck (aka hunt for Mae Mot Yingluck) is on her negligence, her defense of her 'self-financing' scam while losing money. In the end the BAAC was waiting for 750 billion Baht to be paid back to them by 'the government'. Two weeks ago Pheu Thai stated 'in defence' that 800 billion Baht had been paid directly to rice farmers. As they and you should know the rice farmers are still poor, most of those 3.6 million families representing 23% of Thailand's population.

ad. 4. You always write that when you do not want to understand. Never mind.

1.Interesting but is that the key issue? Who is trying to ignore it anyway?

2.If it's not relevant why keep on droning on about it?

3.Let's see if a case can be made that stands on its own legs.The whole episode is similar to the case against Anwar in Malaysia.Any decent judge would throw the case out ( politically motivated persecution) but the crazies here have their knives out.

4.Sorry but your comment was incoherent.Perhaps it was a heavy handed stab at humour with the Mae Mot references.Who knows and who cares?

[rubl]

1.I agree the scheme was flawed.Off balance sheet financing is not however unknown and in Thailand was in fact pioneered by the Democrats.

2.The blanket amnesty is not relevant to this discussion.As it happens I opposed it.Nevertheless something like that will eventually have to be implemented.Of course if as "good people" you are certain like Abhisit and Suthep that your crimes are never going to be punished by the courts your attitude to amnesty is going to be somewhat relaxed.

3.The court case is not "all about" negligence.That is the pretext for the witch hunt.I am not suggesting negligence and corruption shouldn't be investigated - but that isn't what's driving this current exercise.

4.I do not understand your last paragraph.

ad. 1. The scam was positioned as 'self-financing'. That's the whole issue which lots here try to ignore and / or forget.

ad. 2. The blanket amnesty is not relevant as such, but as circumstantial evidence suggests that we cannot switch from 'negligence' to 'ignorance', but rather to 'criminal and defrauding'.

ad. 3. The court case is a charge of 'negligence'. The 'witch hunt' on Yingluck (aka hunt for Mae Mot Yingluck) is on her negligence, her defense of her 'self-financing' scam while losing money. In the end the BAAC was waiting for 750 billion Baht to be paid back to them by 'the government'. Two weeks ago Pheu Thai stated 'in defence' that 800 billion Baht had been paid directly to rice farmers. As they and you should know the rice farmers are still poor, most of those 3.6 million families representing 23% of Thailand's population.

ad. 4. You always write that when you do not want to understand. Never mind.

1.Interesting but is that the key issue? Who is trying to ignore it anyway?

2.If it's not relevant why keep on droning on about it?

3.Let's see if a case can be made that stands on its own legs.The whole episode is similar to the case against Anwar in Malaysia.Any decent judge would throw the case out ( politically motivated persecution) but the crazies here have their knives out.

4.Sorry but your comment was incoherent.Perhaps it was a heavy handed stab at humour with the Mae Mot references.Who knows and who cares?

Jayboy, you seem to dislike that Ms. Yingluck is offered a chance to defend herself. She positioned her RPPS as 'self-financing', she and her hand-picked cabinet defended, ridiculed doubts, warnings and only with the back to the wall acknowledge that there was possibly the tiniest chance that maybe the scheme would not completely reach what was aimed at.

Negligence, even up to 800 billion Baht of it according to Pheu Thai. It doesn't matter what nonsense it brought forward to distract, Ms. Yingluck went on television so frequently to state positive news that probably the court can come to the conclusion she was negligence with a purpose, the purpose to hide the losses, or probably more to hide where the money really went to.

As for the blanket amnesty bill, well her negligence didn't exclude her dedication to arrange her own amnesty. Either that's relevant for the charge of negligence (only concerned with not being responsible), or circumstancial (distracted and not really in charge as she stated) or just plain criminal (defrauding the state and trying to get a blanket amnesty for her fraud).

BTW I never talk about 'a witch hunt against Ms. Yingluck', but if you insist using that term may I explain to you that a witch hunt is aimed at a witch and that's why it's called a 'witch hunt'?