Incredible footage captures shocking shooting and gang fight in Bangkok

[tomacht8]

Criminal Code of Thailand

§ 376

Any person who without justifiable grounds shoots an explosive gun in a town, village or amongst a public gathering shall be liable to imprisonment for not more than ten days, or a fine not exceeding five hundred baht or both.

Instead of 10 days and / or 500 baht penalty, i would welcome that the judges condemn these idiots to 6 months work in a state hospital or 6 months as an assistant on an ambulance. Because they would then get to see a whole lot of real blood and misery;
- maybe there walnut sized brains will learn something.

And

§ 372

Any person who takes part in a brawl in a public way or public place, or through whatever act disturbs the peace of a public way or public place, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding five hundred baht.

500 baht penalty is really not a deterrent.

Edited November 24, 2015 by tomacht8

[digibum]

Not a care about innocent people in the area. To them a human life means nothing. These are not just unruly youths behaving badly, but terrorists with a strong potential to kill.

The police and the army would be well justified in shooting them on sight they need to be taken out of action fast. They are a threat to society, leaving these terrorist gangs to run amok will cost lives.

Yeah! Let's ignore the rule of law! Anarchy! Shoot to kill orders for the military. What could possibly go wrong?

Your post just made the internet a little less intelligent.

[Deez]

Getting more like America... well at least some Americans are more civil about it and keep it of the streets, they just go down to the local park

Perhaps you need to check the gun homicide rate in Thailand versus America.

The number of people who get blasted in Thailand the wild East, makes

America look like the land of safety...

Don't want to boggle the American hater Thai apologist" crowd with facts

[Deez]

So instead of naybe first informing the police the logical step for this banana head would be to upload it to facebook.

What exactly do you think the police will do? Are you new here?

[righand3256]

8.5 + million in Bangkok, and people actually think this shit never happens? time to raise up from your smartphone, and just accept the fact, big cities worldwide has this going on every single day

[salim94]

happen everywhere

[cookee68]

It is nice to know where the college money is going and being spent on, if this is educated college kids, then I would rather my kids be dull

[HerbalEd]

Incredible footage??? Not!

[kannot]

When a Thai guy attacked my car for no reason the police said to me not go near there again because maybe he has a gun ,I said go look then ,they just smiled ,job done ,I had to pay for damage because the police did not want to get involved.

I wander why Thailand has a problem

Be careful not to complain on the internet or the useless pricks, sorry, I mean police will arrest you under the computer crimes act. What they don't seem to understand is that it's not defamation if people are simply telling the truth.

it IS in Thailand though

[cyberfarang]

Not a care about innocent people in the area. To them a human life means nothing. These are not just unruly youths behaving badly, but terrorists with a strong potential to kill.

The police and the army would be well justified in shooting them on sight they need to be taken out of action fast. They are a threat to society, leaving these terrorist gangs to run amok will cost lives.

Yeah! Let's ignore the rule of law! Anarchy! Shoot to kill orders for the military. What could possibly go wrong?

Your post just made the internet a little less intelligent.

Restraining madmen and murderers on the rampage is the rule of law. Law enforcement have every right to take down those who are placing the lives of the public at extreme risk. Otherwise what other ways would you expect these thugs to be dealt with? Tell them to stop being naughty boys and lay down their deadly weapons? Would you think the same way if those thugs were Muslim extremists shooting at people? Because I can`t differentiate between any of them.

Do me a favour, get real.

[cyberfarang]

Criminal Code of Thailand

§ 376

Any person who without justifiable grounds shoots an explosive gun in a town, village or amongst a public gathering shall be liable to imprisonment for not more than ten days, or a fine not exceeding five hundred baht or both.

Instead of 10 days and / or 500 baht penalty, i would welcome that the judges condemn these idiots to 6 months work in a state hospital or 6 months as an assistant on an ambulance. Because they would then get to see a whole lot of real blood and misery;

- maybe there walnut sized brains will learn something.

And

§ 372

Any person who takes part in a brawl in a public way or public place, or through whatever act disturbs the peace of a public way or public place, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding five hundred baht.

500 baht penalty is really not a deterrent.

Would people really want to have gun toting maniacs working at hospitals or for the medical services?

[webfact]

One killed in brawl between vocational students
Angsuma Sridokkham
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- A brawl between students from two rivalling colleges erupted yesterday morning near Soi Srinakarin 26 in Bangkok's Suan Luang district, resulting to one death and one injury.

A 18-year-old student Jane (not his real name) sustained a fatal gunshot in the chest and was pronounced dead at Vibharam Hospital, while his 16-year-old schoolmate Ore (not his real name) sustained a gunshot wound in his left hand and stomach. Police also collected a pen gun from the scene.

A 17-year-old eyewitness Nid (not his real name) told police that he and six schoolmates had taken bus No 207 to Bangkok College of Industrial Technology, when a 10-strong group of students from Bangkapi Technology College got on board.

That's when Nid's group decided to get out of the bus, but an assailant on a motorcycle, believed to be from the rival group, suddenly opened fire and injured Ore.

Nid, Jane and two others then fled across the street, but the motorcycle gave chase and shot at Jane, before fleeing.

Jane's 53-year-old mum said her son was a good, cheerful boy who always returned home in time, though his friends always created problems. She said she was against her son's decision to enrol in the college, but she agreed because he loved studying in the vocational field.

Meanwhile, deputy police chief Pol General Pongpat Pongcharoen showed up later in the after to observe the police inquiry and said this area was often a scene of student brawls, which mostly stemmed from insults. He said police already knew about the offenders, but would gather evidence for a while before applying for arrest warrants.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/One-killed-in-brawl-between-vocational-students-30273677.html


-- The Nation 2015-11-25

[car720]

Is it just me that has had this thought but when the other half is watching Thai soaps and they show invariably guns and gunshots but not pixelated out but when its a movie and they show someone smoking they pixelate the cigarette out...... so video or pictures of people smoking is outlawed and acted on to prevent it being seen but video or pictures of some guys wielding a gun or knife is not and is generally shown on TV Soaps with local well known Thai soap actors at popular prime times......

So if Im an impressionable teenager and see smoking blurred out.... this might send the right message to me..... but by the same logic to brandish and use a lethal weapon is not so , that sends a message as well.

Im not saying this is the root cause but it does show that guns and brandishing lethal weapons with intent is not something that is deemed abhorrent or incorrect in Thai society......... I find it laughable that authorities go after actors who are merchandising beer etc yet condone the same actors/actress's thrusting a gun in someones face even if it is on fictional soaps.... what do you expect if the wrong messages are continually condoned and sent.......... dont even get me going on the journo who is up before the court on flak jacket possesion.... can you imagine if the poor bugger had of been smoking and had a can of beer in his hand as well at the time ........

It's not just you.

Hypocrisy rules.

Take a look at how every bleeding heart screams about road carnage and then, after watching fast and furious, goes out and buys a car that is advertised openly as being able to do 250kph.

Big business cares less.

[gemguy]

Getting more like America... well at least some Americans are more civil about it and keep it of the streets, they just go down to the local park

Perhaps you need to check the gun homicide rate in Thailand versus America.

The number of people who get blasted in Thailand the wild East, makes

America look like the land of safety...

I think the readers would like to review those comparative statistics that you speak of because the USA is known to have the longest running 1st place position for gun related violence on the face of the planet.

Thailand may be bad and getting worse.....but the USA??....beats every other country by far.

As a matter of fact, in scholarly articles written, the USA is always used as the world wide standard for comparative gun related violence.

Cheers

[Happy Grumpy]

So, another very public Vocational College murder in broad daylight.

Guess they all come from the 95% of Thais that aren't Buddhist.

[happy pattaya man]

So that's why it's law to wear a helmet whilst riding a morcye....

[digibum]

Not a care about innocent people in the area. To them a human life means nothing. These are not just unruly youths behaving badly, but terrorists with a strong potential to kill.

The police and the army would be well justified in shooting them on sight they need to be taken out of action fast. They are a threat to society, leaving these terrorist gangs to run amok will cost lives.

Yeah! Let's ignore the rule of law! Anarchy! Shoot to kill orders for the military. What could possibly go wrong?

Your post just made the internet a little less intelligent.

Restraining madmen and murderers on the rampage is the rule of law. Law enforcement have every right to take down those who are placing the lives of the public at extreme risk. Otherwise what other ways would you expect these thugs to be dealt with? Tell them to stop being naughty boys and lay down their deadly weapons? Would you think the same way if those thugs were Muslim extremists shooting at people? Because I can`t differentiate between any of them.

Do me a favour, get real.

Sorry, but your comments sounds like those of someone under the false impression that everything can be settled John Wayne style.

First off, don't try to equate a gang street fight with Muslim extremists intentionally mowing down innocent people and then blowing themselves up. What this video showed was so far from that, that you should be embarrassed for being so intellectually dishonest. These were not madmen on a rampage. It was obviously a targeted attack on specific set of victims (one in particular).

Second, yes, you tell them to drop their weapons and give them an opportunity to comply. If they do not, then blast away. But what you suggested was shoot on sight. The solution of people who spend way too much time pretending to be tough guys behind a computer screen.

One of the reasons such solutions are such a horrible idea is that the first police officer or military person on the scene has nearly zero information about what's happening. What if he sees a guy with a gun and he simply shoots the guy without trying to stop the incident without lethal force? Maybe that guy holding the gun disarmed his attacker and was holding it which means the police/military have shot the victim. Maybe the guy holding the gun is not the shooter or the victim but someone who chased off the shooter with his own gun. Maybe the target of the shooting had his own gun and was able to shoot his attacker before the attacker could shoot him.

Shooting on sight is not a solution you would ever hear suggested by any credible law enforcement or military professional.

[SuwadeeS]

That proves, they are not human.

[duckmandon]

I thought you were bringing happiness to the people? I don't call this happiness. Sack the inept Police Force & replace it with people that are willing to stand up for what is right & decent. Take a look at most of the developed countries & yes, use them as a role model. I am leaving Thailand because of this sort of cirme & going back so my family is living in a normally safe society. Although crime happens everywhere some places, like here, are just waiting to explode. Please Thailand crack down on this sort of thing happening. Start caring about you own flesh & blood.

[digibum]

Getting more like America... well at least some Americans are more civil about it and keep it of the streets, they just go down to the local park

Perhaps you need to check the gun homicide rate in Thailand versus America.

The number of people who get blasted in Thailand the wild East, makes

America look like the land of safety...

I think the readers would like to review those comparative statistics that you speak of because the USA is known to have the longest running 1st place position for gun related violence on the face of the planet.

Thailand may be bad and getting worse.....but the USA??....beats every other country by far.

As a matter of fact, in scholarly articles written, the USA is always used as the world wide standard for comparative gun related violence.

Cheers

The US is #1 only if you're really bad at math.

The US ranks #1 when you carefully control for who it's compared against. The US is not even close to #1 in the world but people who try to make the point of the US having the #1 homicide rate start weeding out all the countries who have higher rates in order to arrive at their numbers.

First trick is to compare absolute numbers. The US is a nation of 320 million people. Then you compare the number of homicides in the US to countries with smaller populations so the US number looks much larger in comparison.

The second trick used by those too embarrassed to try to fool people with the first statistical trick is to claim the the US is #1 per capita (which adjusts for population differences) of ______________ countries where ________________ is some sort of qualifier that eliminates all countries with higher homicide rates.

For instance, this article in the Washington Post claims the US is #1 *of developed countries* IF you eliminate Mexico. See, even when you put a qualifier on it, "developed countries" the US still didn't rank #1 so they had to artificially eliminate Mexico so the US could still be called #1.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/chart-the-u-s-has-far-more-gun-related-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/

In reality, according to Wikipedia, of the 71 countries shown in this particular entry, the US is 15th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Unfortunately, for this discussion, Thailand is not one of the countries included on the list.

However, perhaps we can get some perspective by comparing the overall homicide rate per 100,000 between the US and Thailand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Thailand has a homicide rate of 5 per 100,000 and the US has a homicide rate of 3.8 per 100,000. While it doesn't tell us how many of these homicides are gun related, I think it does at least show that one has a higher risk of being murdered in Thailand than they do in the US. I'm not really sure it makes all that much of a difference what weapon they use though.

[DLang]

If they're not killing women for dumping them, they're killing each other for going to different colleges.

Welcome to the jungle.

Beware of the savages.

[kiwikeith]

Due to the number of people involved, looks like another moronic trade school

fight..... Will be curious to see the TAT spin....... " Tired of boring well regulated

tourist spots around the world? Take a walk on the wild side and come to Amazing

Thailand, where fights and gunfire possibly await you right in the main city !! "

I saw one of these fights down soi 4 Nana i was across the rd eating when it broke out from a pool bar looked the same lots of people running around with sticks and bottles but no gun and not much damage to each other.

[NeverSure]

-snip-

Shooting on sight is not a solution you would ever hear suggested by any credible law enforcement or military professional.

You are so, so wrong. If you have a "reasonable belief that you or even another person are in immediate danger of serious bodily injury or death" you shoot. You don't give that guy a warning so that he can turn his attention onto you or get off the first shot at you.

You have no legal or moral obligation to warn someone so that he will know you are a danger to him and perhaps shoot you. If he is presenting a real danger to you or others you simply drop him. That becomes his fault for putting you into that situation.

Apparently you know little about self defense but in this case it's the act of stopping someone before he can get any opportunity to stop you.

Cheers.

[cyberfarang]

Not a care about innocent people in the area. To them a human life means nothing. These are not just unruly youths behaving badly, but terrorists with a strong potential to kill.

The police and the army would be well justified in shooting them on sight they need to be taken out of action fast. They are a threat to society, leaving these terrorist gangs to run amok will cost lives.

Yeah! Let's ignore the rule of law! Anarchy! Shoot to kill orders for the military. What could possibly go wrong?

Your post just made the internet a little less intelligent.

Restraining madmen and murderers on the rampage is the rule of law. Law enforcement have every right to take down those who are placing the lives of the public at extreme risk. Otherwise what other ways would you expect these thugs to be dealt with? Tell them to stop being naughty boys and lay down their deadly weapons? Would you think the same way if those thugs were Muslim extremists shooting at people? Because I can`t differentiate between any of them.

Do me a favour, get real.

Sorry, but your comments sounds like those of someone under the false impression that everything can be settled John Wayne style.

First off, don't try to equate a gang street fight with Muslim extremists intentionally mowing down innocent people and then blowing themselves up. What this video showed was so far from that, that you should be embarrassed for being so intellectually dishonest. These were not madmen on a rampage. It was obviously a targeted attack on specific set of victims (one in particular).

Second, yes, you tell them to drop their weapons and give them an opportunity to comply. If they do not, then blast away. But what you suggested was shoot on sight. The solution of people who spend way too much time pretending to be tough guys behind a computer screen.

One of the reasons such solutions are such a horrible idea is that the first police officer or military person on the scene has nearly zero information about what's happening. What if he sees a guy with a gun and he simply shoots the guy without trying to stop the incident without lethal force? Maybe that guy holding the gun disarmed his attacker and was holding it which means the police/military have shot the victim. Maybe the guy holding the gun is not the shooter or the victim but someone who chased off the shooter with his own gun. Maybe the target of the shooting had his own gun and was able to shoot his attacker before the attacker could shoot him.

Shooting on sight is not a solution you would ever hear suggested by any credible law enforcement or military professional.

Of course they were out on the rampage to intentionally mow down innocent people and those caught in the crossfire. The only difference between this mob and the Muslim extremists, is that these gang members don`t have the guts to blow themselves up. They`re not concerned about meeting the 32 virgins up in heaven because they all ready have an abundance of molls at the colleges.

To anyone including Police or army personnel arriving on the scene it would be obvious what is going on, a bunch of insane thugs running amok with intentions of committing murder, whether organised, targeted or not. What`s the difference? And what about those caught up in it simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

I wonder what planet people like you are on? Or maybe you have been watching too many of those American TV police series.

[LuckyNo4]

And if you buy a bullet proof jacket to protect yourself against shootings, you will be arrested.

cant have people having the ability to defend themselves now can we....unreal

[spidermike007]

Getting more like America... well at least some Americans are more civil about it and keep it of the streets, they just go down to the local park

Perhaps you need to check the gun homicide rate in Thailand versus America.

The number of people who get blasted in Thailand the wild East, makes

America look like the land of safety...

Absolute nonsense, and poppycock. Are you making this stuff up as you go along? The rate in Thailand is 5.0 per 100,000. In the US it is 3.8. Nowhere near Honduras at 90.4, Lesotho at 38, Jamaica at 39, and Venezuela at 53.7. And when you consider that most murder in Thailand is Thai on Thai, and relatively few foreigners are either targeted, or victims, what you are saying is completely ignorant.

[MockingJay]

[pstbkk]

Looks like a fun day out in the streets of amazing Bangkok, another video that should be sent to TAT to promote tourism.

I think I will do something for director general. He wants to kick out farangs from Thailand, so why not to promote real Thailand? I think we should spread this kind of information, videos and photos of all gang fights in Bangkok, bombs on the south, scams etc. People should see it before coming to Thailand. I think maybe then director general will take care of his country..

[English_M_in_Bkk]

The usual TV posters love a story like this, an opportunity to rage against Thailand once more.

You do know stuff happens in other countries too, right? Why do you think Thailand should be some shinning example of perfection just to suit you lot, it has problems as in every other country in the world.

You do know that not everyone of the Thai younger generation is an idiot, hell bent on robbing you or killing someone else. Just over generalizations again and again.

Why do you guys even bother living here?

And before you get your panties in a twist, this doesn't mean I condone the violence that happened, it should be dealt with, but it gets boring to hear the same generalizations - all Thais are this, all Thais are that - there isn't some weird hive mind that makes them all think the same.

Edited November 25, 2015 by English_M_in_Bkk

[pstbkk]

You do know stuff happens in other countries too, right? Why do you think Thailand should be some shinning example of perfection just to suit you lot, it has problems as in every other country in the world.

Really? So you think if you commit a crime or offence on foreigner in your country, police will say that is foreigner's fault and they favour you?

Once a motorbike hit into my car, not much, fortunately nothing bad happened to that thai bike rider but it was clearly his fault. Do you wanna know what police said? It was my fault in 60% and bike rider fault in 40%. I couldn't believe what I have heard.

So don't say that Thailand has the same problems. I don't expect thai law suit me but come on! I just hate hypocrisy!