EU parliament's invitation letter to Ms Yingluck does not concern parliament

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EU parliament's invitation letter to Ms Yingluck does not concern parliament



BANGKOK: -- The European Parliament’s letter of invitation for former prime minister Ms Yingluck Shinawatra to visit Brussels or Strasburg to exchange views on political situation in Thailand has nothing to do with the parliament, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Sek Wannamethee on Wednesday.

While admitting that the letter is authentic, he said the letter was not formally issued by the European Parliament but issued by two members of the parliament in their personal capacity.

He pointed out that, in the letter, the two European parliamentarians ony signed their names but did not mention their positions and, therefore, their action did not represent the parliament or any committee of the parliament.

Mr Sek clarified that European parliamentarians could invite any individuals for discussions as it was their right to do so.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/eu-parliaments-invitation-letter-to-ms-yingluck-does-not-concern-parliament


-- Thai PBS 2015-11-26

[ezzra]

I'm sure she'll be able to enlighten and contribute plenty on the subject how to be a puppet PM and ruin

a county's economy and be indicted for sting of corruptions and derelict of duties allegations..

I'm certain it's going to be a breath taking, riveting speech....

Next. the EU parliament should conceder inviting Bernard Madoff to do the same...

Edited November 26, 2015 by ezzra

[Linky]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

[thesetat2013]

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it. Nor related to the EU at all. So it begs to reason that this letter is a way for YL to escape prosecution should she be permitted to go(run).

[Ricardo]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

It's reminiscent of her brother, wanting to negotiate rice/trade-deals on-behalf of Thailand in the Middle-East, when she was in-power.

If it is now emerging, that this was an unofficial/personal-invitation only, despite its being on EU-headed paper, then a cynic might almost suspect that the whole invitation was little more than a publicity-stunt.

I wonder which of her advisers might have suggested arranging for it ?

[jacky54]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

[seajae]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

actually she was deposed by the courts not the military but dont let the truth get in the way of you whinge, the military took over after she had been removed by the courts when the ptp refused to stop their "red" terrorists from killing people indiscriminately. Strangely enough the military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

Edited November 26, 2015 by seajae

[LannaGuy]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

actually she was deposed by the courts not the military but dont let the truth get in the way of you whinge, the military took over after she had been removed by the courts when the ptp refused to stop their "red" terrorists from killing people indiscriminately. Strangely enough the military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

nice try but what nonsense - bet you believe it's 'All About Rice' right?

[JAG]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

Oh I don't know, hasn't he forged strong links based on personal trust and deep understanding of the country's situation with Fiji and Columbia? Wasn't the Central African Republic and a few other big players in the mix a couple of months ago?

Besides, he got to shake Barack Obama's hand, and have his photo taken doing so. Admittedly he didn't get to play footsie with him at dinner...

[trainman34014]

The whole fiasco is just a way of Yingluck trying to avoid the inevitable !

[Cuchulainn]

She'll flee to a God-forsaken rat-hole same as her criminal brother.

[Jai Dee]

One post containing defamation has been removed from this thread.

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[Ricardo]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

Except that she wasn't PM, or even caretaker-PM, by the time of the coup, was she ?

Nice try, just a pity that the facts don't bear you out.

[seajae]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

actually she was deposed by the courts not the military but dont let the truth get in the way of you whinge, the military took over after she had been removed by the courts when the ptp refused to stop their "red" terrorists from killing people indiscriminately. Strangely enough the military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

nice try but what nonsense - bet you believe it's 'All About Rice' right?

ok then, show us all where it is wrong, she was ditched by the courts before the coup, fact, the coup happened after the ptp had done nothing about the reds killing kids etc, fact, the army then grabbed a heap of weapons/bombs and red killers after they had taken over and stopped the police from interfering by doing the raids themselves, fact. We realize this doesnt suit your red mantra but by all means enlighten us to where these facts are not true.

[Seastallion]

I didn't know she could speak any other language besides Thai! In what language will she address the EU (or the minority inviters)?

[EnglishJohn]

military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

nice try but what nonsense - bet you believe it's 'All About Rice' right?

Nonsense ? - what's wrong with you ? - you seem to be unable to grasp any concept of truth.

Thailand was under a caretaker government and Yingluck was long gone already for abuse of power in illegally replacing the head of the NSC with Lt Paradorn - a close family friend of Thaksin and who the audio tape proved was placed there ready to railroad an amnesty law through.

Which bit is nonsense ?. Blatant lies might be OK on your red-shirt forums but when you do it here, you make yourself and all your ilk look like liars who will say anything that suits them. That's why we mostly disregard anything else you say as a probable lie as well.

Or do you think that they are just "white lies" and therefore acceptable ?.

[scorecard]

military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

nice try but what nonsense - bet you believe it's 'All About Rice' right?

Nonsense ? - what's wrong with you ? - you seem to be unable to grasp any concept of truth.

Thailand was under a caretaker government and Yingluck was long gone already for abuse of power in illegally replacing the head of the NSC with Lt Paradorn - a close family friend of Thaksin and who the audio tape proved was placed there ready to railroad an amnesty law through.

Which bit is nonsense ?. Blatant lies might be OK on your red-shirt forums but when you do it here, you make yourself and all your ilk look like liars who will say anything that suits them. That's why we mostly disregard anything else you say as a probable lie as well.

Or do you think that they are just "white lies" and therefore acceptable ?.

Well said, great post.

Any minute now lg will be along with his usual response to structured factual details with a nasty personal attack on the poster.

[marinediscoking]

This is already the 5th press release by the current government trying to discredit/dispel this invitation.

So far they have claimed:

• Letter was not real
• Its a personal invitation, only a personal matter
• The two EU members were not EU MP's
• Ok its real, they are EU Members but letter its not official because no stamps

Now they contradict themselves again in the first sentence of this press release:

BANGKOK: -- The European Parliament’s letter of invitation for former prime minister Ms Yingluck Shinawatra to visit Brussels or Strasburg to exchange views on political situation in Thailand has nothing to do with the parliament, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Sek Wannamethee on Wednesday.

Why has this letter got them so rattled? The more they comment on this the better it looks for Yingluck. If they would have not have put the propaganda machine in turbo mode this would have faded from the headlines already. Next they might say it was sent by Martians.

[Linky]

If its not to address parliament then why the big deal? She has left before and returned.

[JAG]

This is already the 5th press release by the current government trying to discredit/dispel this invitation.

So far they have claimed:

• Letter was not real
• Its a personal invitation, only a personal matter
• The two EU members were not EU MP's
• Ok its real, they are EU Members but letter its not official because no stamps

Now they contradict themselves again in the first sentence of this press release:

BANGKOK: -- The European Parliament’s letter of invitation for former prime minister Ms Yingluck Shinawatra to visit Brussels or Strasburg to exchange views on political situation in Thailand has nothing to do with the parliament, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Sek Wannamethee on Wednesday.

Why has this letter got them so rattled? The more they comment on this the better it looks for Yingluck. If they would have not have put the propaganda machine in turbo mode this would have faded from the headlines already. Next they might say it was sent by Martians.

Why has it got them rattled?

Because it confirms the rather simple if very unpalatable truth that these European politicians, and the elected parliament in which they sit, would rather meet with and hear from the person who was chosen by the Thai electorate to be their Prime Minister rather than the self appointed junta leader who has replaced her.

Edited November 26, 2015 by JAG

[Cuchulainn]

I didn't know she could speak any other language besides Thai! In what language will she address the EU (or the minority inviters)?

Totally fluent in Utter Drivel, Absolute Shiite and Complete bo££ocks.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Cuchulainn

[stoffel45]

The EU Commission and a Shinawatra.

Could this be a Competition for the Most Incompetent and Corrupt.

Though it will be a close run thing - I think the EU Commission has the edge don't you?

[tbthailand]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

actually she was deposed by the courts not the military but dont let the truth get in the way of you whinge, the military took over after she had been removed by the courts when the ptp refused to stop their "red" terrorists from killing people indiscriminately. Strangely enough the military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

nice try but what nonsense - bet you believe it's 'All About Rice' right?

ok then, show us all where it is wrong, she was ditched by the courts before the coup, fact, the coup happened after the ptp had done nothing about the reds killing kids etc, fact, the army then grabbed a heap of weapons/bombs and red killers after they had taken over and stopped the police from interfering by doing the raids themselves, fact. We realize this doesnt suit your red mantra but by all means enlighten us to where these facts are not true.

wow, you believe in Santa Claus, still? ...

[Skywalker69]

Let her go there, after one minute no one will understand what she says anyway.

[gabruce]

Look. Anyone can invite anyone they want to come for a visit. Nothing wrong with that at all. These two people happen to be politicians. If they want to discuss Thailand they could always Skype, though meeting in person over dinner is always more enjoyable. If Yingluck doesn't go, I would hope that she would extend an invitation for them to visit her in Thailand. Seeing the country in person would also be a great way to understand the situation more.

[GerdT]

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it. Nor related to the EU at all. So it begs to reason that this letter is a way for YL to escape prosecution should she be permitted to go(run).

While admitting that the letter is authentic, he said the letter was not formally issued by the European Parliament but issued by two members of the parliament in their personal capacity.

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it.

If you are right or wrong has still to be decided yet. I have made the effort now to write to both members of the EU parliament to find out what the truth is instead of speculating on comments made on press releases in the Thai media.

Tatjana Saranca email: [email protected] [Büroleitung / Head of Office Bürokoordination , Teammanagement, Pressearbeit, Betreuung und inhaltliche Assistenz der Ausschussarbeit (Ausschuss für Auswärtige Angelegenheiten (AFET) & Ausschuss für Konstitutionelle Fragen (AFCO)]

Dr Werner Langen [email protected]

I also know that members of the EU parliament use letters with different headings when writing private invitations.

From past experiences I know that a reply should be with me in the next 48 hours and that should determine if you are right or wrong.

[Thai at Heart]

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it. Nor related to the EU at all. So it begs to reason that this letter is a way for YL to escape prosecution should she be permitted to go(run).

While admitting that the letter is authentic, he said the letter was not formally issued by the European Parliament but issued by two members of the parliament in their personal capacity.

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it.

If you are right or wrong has still to be decided yet. I have made the effort now to write to both members of the EU parliament to find out what the truth is instead of speculating on comments made on press releases in the Thai media.

Tatjana Saranca email: [email protected] [Büroleitung / Head of Office Bürokoordination , Teammanagement, Pressearbeit, Betreuung und inhaltliche Assistenz der Ausschussarbeit (Ausschuss für Auswärtige Angelegenheiten (AFET) & Ausschuss für Konstitutionelle Fragen (AFCO)]

Dr Werner Langen [email protected]

I also know that members of the EU parliament use letters with different headings when writing private invitations.

From past experiences I know that a reply should be with me in the next 48 hours and that should determine if you are right or wrong.

You think EU members of parliament don't write letters inviting people to meet them in a professional capacity.

It's a parliament with hundreds of people. No one person other than the speaker speaks on its entire behalf.

Why is everyone so confused about how these things work.

I presume the EU member will write back, "I invited her because we want to ask her about the situation in Thailand, and........"

Edited November 26, 2015 by Thai at Heart

[yellowboat]

Seems the general is quite jealous and wants to play it down because she gets to deal with the EU and he only gets PNG.

In what sense does she get, or indeed is she authorised as a private citizen, to "deal with the EU" ?

Might just have something to do with her being the last legally elected PM by a large margin, who was then deposed by an illegal militarily coup? just a wild guess

actually she was deposed by the courts not the military but dont let the truth get in the way of you whinge, the military took over after she had been removed by the courts when the ptp refused to stop their "red" terrorists from killing people indiscriminately. Strangely enough the military then rounded up all the killers/weapons that the ptp/their police lackies were unable to find/stop but then the truth is avoided by all the shin lovers/apologists

The key word being deposed. Show was deposed and later impeached by a military backed organ. Your as guilty in your hate as any Shin lover. Reconciliation is just not going to happen in Thailand.

[GerdT]

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it. Nor related to the EU at all. So it begs to reason that this letter is a way for YL to escape prosecution should she be permitted to go(run).

While admitting that the letter is authentic, he said the letter was not formally issued by the European Parliament but issued by two members of the parliament in their personal capacity.

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it.

If you are right or wrong has still to be decided yet. I have made the effort now to write to both members of the EU parliament to find out what the truth is instead of speculating on comments made on press releases in the Thai media.

Tatjana Saranca email: [email protected] [Büroleitung / Head of Office Bürokoordination , Teammanagement, Pressearbeit, Betreuung und inhaltliche Assistenz der Ausschussarbeit (Ausschuss für Auswärtige Angelegenheiten (AFET) & Ausschuss für Konstitutionelle Fragen (AFCO)]

Dr Werner Langen [email protected]

I also know that members of the EU parliament use letters with different headings when writing private invitations.

From past experiences I know that a reply should be with me in the next 48 hours and that should determine if you are right or wrong.

You think EU members of parliament don't write letters inviting people to meet them in a professional capacity.

It's a parliament with hundreds of people. No one person other than the speaker speaks on its entire behalf.

Why is everyone so confused about how these things work.

I presume the EU member will write back, "I invited her because we want to ask her about the situation in Thailand, and........"

You think EU members of parliament don't write letters inviting people to meet them in a professional capacity.

Where did I say anything that would imply that? What I said is that EU MEPs would use different letter headings for private or official invitations.

It's a parliament with hundreds of people. No one person other than the speaker speaks on its entire behalf.

The speaker of the EU parliament has the same function as the Speaker of the House in the British Parliament or the President of the German Bundestag. They have to ensure that the rules are observed when conducting parliamentary business. They certainly don’t speak on behalf of the entire parliament when stepping in questions that involve the political jungle. For that Europe has too many political groups represented in the parliament from the far left (communists) to the far right (neo fascists).

What you seem to overlook is that both members are heads of committees that deal with foreign relations and links to ASEAN and Asian countries. Committees in national European parliaments are elected by these parliaments to investigate and inquire on their behalf political questions and situations that would otherwise place a too heavy workload on parliament itself and these committees contain members of a broad political spectrum and is not a one party club.

If they invited Yingluck as heads of these committees they have invited her on behalf of the parliament.

[Thai at Heart]

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it. Nor related to the EU at all. So it begs to reason that this letter is a way for YL to escape prosecution should she be permitted to go(run).

While admitting that the letter is authentic, he said the letter was not formally issued by the European Parliament but issued by two members of the parliament in their personal capacity.

So it seems I was right in a different thread on this letter. Nothing official about it.

If you are right or wrong has still to be decided yet. I have made the effort now to write to both members of the EU parliament to find out what the truth is instead of speculating on comments made on press releases in the Thai media.

Tatjana Saranca email: [email protected] [Büroleitung / Head of Office Bürokoordination , Teammanagement, Pressearbeit, Betreuung und inhaltliche Assistenz der Ausschussarbeit (Ausschuss für Auswärtige Angelegenheiten (AFET) & Ausschuss für Konstitutionelle Fragen (AFCO)]

Dr Werner Langen [email protected]

I also know that members of the EU parliament use letters with different headings when writing private invitations.

From past experiences I know that a reply should be with me in the next 48 hours and that should determine if you are right or wrong.

You think EU members of parliament don't write letters inviting people to meet them in a professional capacity.

It's a parliament with hundreds of people. No one person other than the speaker speaks on its entire behalf.

Why is everyone so confused about how these things work.

I presume the EU member will write back, "I invited her because we want to ask her about the situation in Thailand, and........"

You think EU members of parliament don't write letters inviting people to meet them in a professional capacity.

Where did I say anything that would imply that? What I said is that EU MEPs would use different letter headings for private or official invitations.

It's a parliament with hundreds of people. No one person other than the speaker speaks on its entire behalf.

The speaker of the EU parliament has the same function as the Speaker of the House in the British Parliament or the President of the German Bundestag. They have to ensure that the rules are observed when conducting parliamentary business. They certainly don’t speak on behalf of the entire parliament when stepping in questions that involve the political jungle. For that Europe has too many political groups represented in the parliament from the far left (communists) to the far right (neo fascists).

What you seem to overlook is that both members are heads of committees that deal with foreign relations and links to ASEAN and Asian countries. Committees in national European parliaments are elected by these parliaments to investigate and inquire on their behalf political questions and situations that would otherwise place a too heavy workload on parliament itself and these committees contain members of a broad political spectrum and is not a one party club.

If they invited Yingluck as heads of these committees they have invited her on behalf of the parliament.

They have their letter head.

If they have two, it doesn't really make any difference. The request came with and EU parliament letter head. Unless they have misused it, it is what it is.

They are EU members of parliament. They will have a letter head according to their position. They speak on their own behalf. Their official position is as MEP.

That's it.

If they have invited people on behalf of a committee they can do that in either guise, as committee member or MP depending on official protocol on the system.