I've decided that since Bedlam lacks in really original topics at the moment.... TIBET is a WORTHY topic of choice. Thankyou!!!

TIBET: Goooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Tibet..... as soon as I saw the word I thought of one thing.... Alexandra Bastedo (Sharron Macready?)

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I think this topic is going nowhere....disagree....want tibet?

Chownah

naaaa...not Tibet....nothing Thailand related on offer?

Hmmm at this late date ... how do we get China out?

Thailand is bigger even than ramsgate

Hmmm at this late date ... how do we get China out?

Ok, I'll bite............I think it would be pretty hard to get China out of part of China....don't you?

Chownah

Thailand is bigger even than ramsgate

or

Tibet In Bedlam Equals Topically-okily-dokily-diddly-doodily

I've decided that since Bedlam lacks in really original topics at the moment.... TIBET is a WORTHY topic of choice. Thankyou!!!

TIBET: Goooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

There is nothing to discuss. Tibet is apart of China and will remain a part of China. Even the Dali Lama knows this. Tibeteans are allowed to be Tibeteans and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

I've decided that since Bedlam lacks in really original topics at the moment.... TIBET is a WORTHY topic of choice. Thankyou!!!

TIBET: Goooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

There is nothing to discuss. Tibet is apart of China and will remain a part of China. Even the Dali Lama knows this. Tibeteans are allowed to be Tibeteans and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

Is that right Thaibebop?... maybe you should check out this article on forced sterilisation of Tibetan women: http://www.untamed-travel.com//p_Women_Wronged688.asp

And just a few weeks ago, Chinese soldiers shot dead several Tibetans as they trekked to India on a visit to Dalai Lama - see video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCVRhOfjtA

Boonie, can we have a balanced analysis of the subject?

I've decided that since Bedlam lacks in really original topics at the moment.... TIBET is a WORTHY topic of choice. Thankyou!!!

TIBET: Goooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

There is nothing to discuss. Tibet is apart of China and will remain a part of China. Even the Dali Lama knows this. Tibeteans are allowed to be Tibeteans and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

Is that right Thaibebop?... maybe you should check out this article on forced sterilisation of Tibetan women: http://www.untamed-travel.com//p_Women_Wronged688.asp

There have been such cases all over China, that is not a Tibet issue. Most of these cases have happened in the past as well. The government is thinking about giving up the one child policy as they are worried they will have too big a gap between the elderly and working age groups in the future.

And just a few weeks ago, Chinese soldiers shot dead several Tibetans as they trekked to India on a visit to Dalai Lama - see video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCVRhOfjtA

They weren't leaving they were coming in. The incident that occured while sad does not prove that the Chinese are out to "get" Tibeteans. It was one guy being cruel not China. Neither of these examples prove that Tibetean people are not allowed to enjoy their culture. As a matter of fact the reigion is an autonomous reigion and they are trying to get tourism up by promoting Tibet's Buddhist cultural. The is more to China-Tibet relations then suffering. Free Tibet, yeah, okay let's free Hawaii while we are at it.

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

Very funny, I have visions of Joan Baez!

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

Very funny, I have visions of Joan Baez!

Okay, that I am rebelling against.

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

Very funny, I have visions of Joan Baez!

Okay, that I am rebelling against.

You could write a protest song!

and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

Only after years of Chinese attempts to destroy the culture and religion of the Tibetan buddhists, duly failed and so decided to reverse tack and promote something they couldn't destroy.

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

Very funny, I have visions of Joan Baez!

Okay, that I am rebelling against.

You could write a protest song!

No musical skills.

and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

Only after years of Chinese attempts to destroy the culture and religion of the Tibetan buddhists, duly failed and so decided to reverse tack and promote something they couldn't destroy.

That's one way to look at it I suppose. Although destruction wasn't the goal, more like subduing. Religions with leaders have always been a threat to China's governments. So, making sure that the the Tibeteans wouldn't organize aginst their rule they held them down. There was never any hate for Tibeteans or Buddhism. It's the same with the FaLung Gong at the moment. China's rulers have always feared religious movements until they feel they have proved their power over that group. They promote now for the Tibeteans are not a threat.

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

Very funny, I have visions of Joan Baez!

Okay, that I am rebelling against.

You could write a protest song!

No musical skills.

That didn't stop Bob Dylan!!!!!!!!

Very funny, another Chownah classic!

liberate Maprachan from the Pattaya tyranny! Let's fight for a free Pong!

we shall overcohohome...

Very funny, I have visions of Joan Baez!

Okay, that I am rebelling against.

You could write a protest song!

No musical skills.

That didn't stop Bob Dylan!!!!!!!!

Neither did the drugs.

and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

Only after years of Chinese attempts to destroy the culture and religion of the Tibetan buddhists, duly failed and so decided to reverse tack and promote something they couldn't destroy.

That's one way to look at it I suppose. Although destruction wasn't the goal, more like subduing. Religions with leaders have always been a threat to China's governments. So, making sure that the the Tibeteans wouldn't organize aginst their rule they held them down. There was never any hate for Tibeteans or Buddhism. It's the same with the FaLung Gong at the moment. China's rulers have always feared religious movements until they feel they have proved their power over that group. They promote now for the Tibeteans are not a threat.

On reflection, I would probably agree with your statement.

Having something you do not understand or the ability to bring thru dialogue to your way of thinking, doctrine or tenets of non-faith will always manifest itself into violence from a supposedly stronger force, and for stronger force read greater might in arms not power of being in the right.

As you say they have a fear of the Falung Gong but this movement has such dynamic force of will, it can only lead to further demonstations of power over a group not willing to capitulate but with an ever increasing groung swell.

Moss

As you say they have a fear of the Falung Gong but this movement has such dynamic force of will, it can only lead to further demonstations of power over a group not willing to capitulate but with an ever increasing groung swell

That's all well and good but, capitulation usually leads to long term resentment.

(and this is Bedlam, 50 pages of hot bums, not one single Tibetan.... not even a recently thawed out one )

(and this is Bedlam, 50 pages of hot bums, not one single Tibetan.... not even a recently thawed out one )

Oh, OK then..............................................

(and this is Bedlam, 50 pages of hot bums, not one single Tibetan.... not even a recently thawed out one )

Oh, OK then..............................................

The last line of my post was just a throw away comment ...... not meant to be taken seriously.

//edit/ handshake (sorry, getting nagged by the wife, I would have put it better otherwise)

and Buddhism is doing just fine in the region as well.

Only after years of Chinese attempts to destroy the culture and religion of the Tibetan buddhists, duly failed and so decided to reverse tack and promote something they couldn't destroy.

That's one way to look at it I suppose. Although destruction wasn't the goal, more like subduing. Religions with leaders have always been a threat to China's governments. So, making sure that the the Tibeteans wouldn't organize aginst their rule they held them down. There was never any hate for Tibeteans or Buddhism. It's the same with the FaLung Gong at the moment. China's rulers have always feared religious movements until they feel they have proved their power over that group. They promote now for the Tibeteans are not a threat.

On reflection, I would probably agree with your statement.

Having something you do not understand or the ability to bring thru dialogue to your way of thinking, doctrine or tenets of non-faith will always manifest itself into violence from a supposedly stronger force, and for stronger force read greater might in arms not power of being in the right.

As you say they have a fear of the Falung Gong but this movement has such dynamic force of will, it can only lead to further demonstations of power over a group not willing to capitulate but with an ever increasing groung swell.

Moss

I agree with you. I do not agree with how the PRC has handled many social issues and until they no longer feel threatened there will be more violence. This is where China needs to shed some of the middle ages thinking they still have and catch up with the west. My biggest point though is that China is not the evil empire some people in the west like to make it out to be. They have issues, yes, big ones even, but there are solutions, solutions I think rest in the hands one the young ones of China.

Transvestites In Bangkok kEep Touching me.. on my way up sukhumvit at night!!

How about freedom for Tibet?

That includes getting rid of Dalai Lama as soon as China back out.

How about freedom for Tibet?

That includes getting rid of Dalai Lama as soon as China back out.

Um... DL has not stepped foot in Tibet since like 1959-ish!! Tibetans seem to like him for some reason...