connda Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 What repeat traffic offenders? There are no cops on the road pulling people over who speed, drive recklessly, or break laws that Thailand does have on the books. Who are they going to send? People not wearing helmets or seatbelts stopped at roadblock rotflmao. Low hanging fruit is all they get. The real danger is never addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Yes, please make them feel guilty... That will work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I wonder what the families of the deceased would think having a mob of drunks and/or duckheads standing around gawking at the bodies of their relatives. Taking hidden cam photos and sharing the odd behind the hand joke between themselves. Will the authorities be consulting with immediate relatives for permission before allowing the ghouls into the morgue to check-out their departed loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Of course they have to actually start pulling people over for moving violations. As it is now you can undertake a cop at 200 km an hour with 30 people in the back of your truck at night with your lights off, and then turn the wrong way up a one way, through a light that turned red 30 seconds ago. If you are unlucky there will be a checkpoint at that intersection, but if you got your belt on and your papers are in order, then Bob's your uncle. You've hit on one of the serious problems with traffic police in Thailand. They only work part time. As soon as they get in a pickup or on a bike they aren't working unless they're escorting someone important. Just a quick question on the subject of traffic police. Do they use their lights and sirens for anything other than escorting VIPs. I only ask because that's all I've ever seen. Of course sometimes I'll here a siren but not see the vehicle so I don't know what they're doing. This is the reason my wife gives but I'm not sure she believes it. I've seen ambulances but not police. I've never seen a fire appliance apart from parked at the fire station. Having seen what they have I'm very careful with fire I did see a photo in my village with a bike wedged underneath it but I don't know what happened to the rider. Further down the road there was a police pickup casually driving towards it. When I work in the UK I'm close to the city centre and I often see police, fire and ambulance vehicles speed past but I've only once seen a police escort and that was for a police van taking a defendant to court. As for whether this is will work when people are caught, I don't know but I suppose it's worth trying with 2 conditions. Firstly it has to apply to everyone however important they are or think they are. And secondly it needs to be monitored to see if it has the desire effect both individually and overall. It it doesn't work overall then there's no point in doing it. If it doesn't work for an individual then it should lead to prison. Again that's for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Some lovely new photos for Facebook look dead people. Ban them from driving rather than driving to and from hospital before they kill someone on the roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Why not send the young rich b-tch who killed nine people and did not report to the hospital she was a singed to. Pick and choose the people you want to punish. It all depends on your income or your political connections. Just ask the Red Bull policeman killer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Yes, please make them feel guilty... That will work just fine. They rather feel guilty because most Thais do not pay there fines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salavan Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 that would have been a reward for the the late jimmy savil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Repeat offenders? Take their vehicles away them no matter who they are or who they think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Of course they have to actually start pulling people over for moving violations. As it is now you can undertake a cop at 200 km an hour with 30 people in the back of your truck at night with your lights off, and then turn the wrong way up a one way, through a light that turned red 30 seconds ago. If you are unlucky there will be a checkpoint at that intersection, but if you got your belt on and your papers are in order, then Bob's your uncle. You've hit on one of the serious problems with traffic police in Thailand. They only work part time. As soon as they get in a pickup or on a bike they aren't working unless they're escorting someone important. Just a quick question on the subject of traffic police. Do they use their lights and sirens for anything other than escorting VIPs. I only ask because that's all I've ever seen. Of course sometimes I'll here a siren but not see the vehicle so I don't know what they're doing. This is the reason my wife gives but I'm not sure she believes it. I've seen ambulances but not police. I've never seen a fire appliance apart from parked at the fire station. Having seen what they have I'm very careful with fire I did see a photo in my village with a bike wedged underneath it but I don't know what happened to the rider. Further down the road there was a police pickup casually driving towards it. When I work in the UK I'm close to the city centre and I often see police, fire and ambulance vehicles speed past but I've only once seen a police escort and that was for a police van taking a defendant to court. As for whether this is will work when people are caught, I don't know but I suppose it's worth trying with 2 conditions. Firstly it has to apply to everyone however important they are or think they are. And secondly it needs to be monitored to see if it has the desire effect both individually and overall. It it doesn't work overall then there's no point in doing it. If it doesn't work for an individual then it should lead to prison. Again that's for everyone. Here in Rayong, the police use the flashing lights at night when they're on their rounds doing the 'tea' money collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 It will be like punishing a fish with drawing it.... given the Thai people morbid fascinations with all things macabre and gruesome, I think they will be more than happy to go to the morgue... in fact, given the chance, they be willing to even volunteer as long as they can gawk and take pictures..... Not when they see the results of road accidents up close they wont. It was tried in the USA and over 90% never drove crazy or under the influence again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrumisgreen Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Will there be another committee meeting convened to go over the points mentioned again and cover anything not covered in the first meeting? Thailand seems to be over serviced with meetings and under serviced with action on the ground! Maybe you're right about the meetings.. but then again, just perhaps, you're forgetting about the meeting(s) to discuss what meetings there should be and when they will take place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 They tried this in South Africa in the 80s, just the threat was enough for me to moderate my driving, although it's difficult to judge its overall effectiveness due to "other" factors in play at the time, but I would support such a move in Thailand. Yea sure---------- whatever you do don't put them in Jail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) They tried this in South Africa in the 80s, just the threat was enough for me to moderate my driving, although it's difficult to judge its overall effectiveness due to "other" factors in play at the time, but I would support such a move in Thailand. Quite. Bearing in mind that it's part of Buddhist practice for a monk/novice to spend time meditating upon impermanence in a morgue anyway, perhaps this little reminder may solve as a jolt as to why wilfully cutting one's span short goes against Buddhist teachings. But most posters here wouldn't have a clue about that. Edited April 8, 2016 by dageurreotype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 This is a hysterical post. Just another in a continuing series of rants, by a small man who is very funny, without even making an attempt at humor. Does he not even realize that there is no traffic safety enforcement, within the entire country? So, how do you target repeat offenders, when there was no citation to begin with? When was the last time you heard of anyone getting a ticket for speeding, reckless driving, driving without a drivers license, DUI, etc? When? It hardly ever happens. Since the police do not care one iota about public safety, they spend their time only collecting mordida. That is it. No regard for public safety. Zip, nunca, nada, yente, zero, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodcourt49 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Repeat offenders? They don't even track first time offenders. All Thais know, just as we do, the police here are a farce. ...how many times do you offend before becoming a first offender? IMO many go their whole driving life without ever being caught/charged/penalised. All about driver education and law enforcement as we know. Offenders should be forced to attend classes and be re-assessed. (Morgues/Mortuaries are storage facilities for cadavers awaiting identification/establishing the cause of death and should not be the object of entertainment nor a teaching tool used in that way to shock a so-called offender). Credits could also be given to encourage those abiding by the rules/regulations. (Ie demerit point system re-activated). All parties here really need to get their act together that's for sure! Edited April 9, 2016 by rodcourt49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Classic Thai style...prpose a solution for problem A that does not solve problem A but creates problem B. So now there will be lots of unqualified temporary workers in morgues, who drain the time and resources of the hopefully qualified and permanent staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Would this cover situations where vechicals mysteriously loose control and cause accidents? Not that we can say someone was driving badly as that's slanderous and we wouldn't want to fall foul of a defamation laws would we and get sued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 "In order to make repeated traffic offenders to feel guilty so that they will not commit the same offences again, Mr Nonthachit said the Probation Department had proposed to the cabinet a proposal to send the unrepentant to work at morgues in hospitals." Would it not be better to force them to undergo extensive driving instruction and make them pay for it. If unable to pay them confiscate car after training to meet the costs. Both, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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