Throwing stones on the roof.

[kannot]

No I want to ignore him because he is nasty and vile postING comments like I abuse my child that is why .

I have not said anywhere I have seen a ghost what I have said is I belive in them. Everybodywants proof google it there is many many unexplained stories from real people. As iI said before neither side can prove or disprove ghosts exist. I belive in Budda can I prove he helps me of course not but in my heart I know it.if I as a GOOD mother wish to tell my child what has been passed onto me from my parents and to them from there'siI will, that does not make me a bad mother at all.

Ok so you have no evidence and I can dismiss it completely, thanks for clearing it up and passing it on to your offspring also to continue the next generation of hearsay

[kannot]

I do not take as insult but you have your opinion I have mine and maybe that's why your country has moved forward at a fast pace forgetting it's roots it's identity and because of that you want everywhere you go to be the same.

it is obvious with a few exeption here that you all belive you are correct no one else can have a culture which conflicts with what you belive to be right.

Opinions here only count if they are the same opinions as your own. This topic was about Thai beliefs and black magic I put my beliefs and practises down for all to see I am proud of my culture which is part of my beliefs.

Most don't agree fine no pam pam but to be insulted being said to abuse my child by a poster who is intent on being the only one right not only on this thread but all the posts on all the threads he participates in.

I do not call into question your belfes that's not mine to question same as it's not yours to try and pull apart my/our beliefs because you not like them.

Opinions only count when they are backed up with evidence, something you havent provided, any opinion without evidence is worthless.

Its nothing to do with liking or not liking its about proof and evidence, to teach your child ghosts are real is not good.

WHATEVER YOU SAY this farang has always to be right. Whish there was a way of blocking certain people on here so I don't have to read the drivel they spout.

You can add them to your ignore list and then not see their posts.

or just bury your head in the sand anything but LOOK for facts and change your opinion then educate your children to do similar.

[ljd1308]

No I want to ignore him because he is nasty and vile postING comments like I abuse my child that is why .

I have not said anywhere I have seen a ghost what I have said is I belive in them. Everybodywants proof google it there is many many unexplained stories from real people. As iI said before neither side can prove or disprove ghosts exist. I belive in Budda can I prove he helps me of course not but in my heart I know it.if I as a GOOD mother wish to tell my child what has been passed onto me from my parents and to them from there'siI will, that does not make me a bad mother at all.

In science the burden of proof is on you....you cannot prove a negative. Here is an example:

I can fly by flapping my arms really fast. That is 100% true until you can prove otherwise.....which you cannot.

One final question as you refuse to see logic and common sense, but what would you say if your children asked the same sort of questions? What if your children don't just take your word for it and use their own mind to ask you for evidence?

Do you want your children to think for themselves or just believe whatever anybody tells them without question?

You have said yourself you do not think for yourself, so is this something you would be proud to pass on?

[jeab1980]

When have I ever said I do not think for myself dear me I think for myself all of the time are you same poster diffrent name!!!!!!

Can someone please tell me were is ignore button

[ljd1308]

When have I ever said I do not think for myself dear me I think for myself all of the time are you same poster diffrent name!!!!!!

Can someone please tell me were is ignore button

You have said several times that you have no evidence and you have never seen a ghost, but believe in them as your family tells you to.

So clearly you are not thinking for yourself, but if I was wrong and you do think for yourself. I am sorry.

Are you capable of answering questions though? Several have been put to you and for some reason you ignore them....now you also want a button to ignore people.

Why can you not have an open exchange of thoughts and opinions? I am not being offensive in any way whatsoever.....I Have asked you a few simple questions about your beliefs*which you chose to make public) and you have been extremely defensive about it.

You say you are proud of your beliefs, then talk about them. Don't just avoid people who want to understand more.

Will you be happy if your children think for themselves and do not believe you that ghosts exist? Or will you try to force on them your belief that you cannot prove and be disappointed if they think for themselves and don't follow you blindly(as you have done with your family)?

[jeab1980]

Yes you are same poster diffrent name but still so terribly wrong on all counts I really feel sorry for you

[ljd1308]

When have I ever said I do not think for myself dear me I think for myself all of the time are you same poster diffrent name!!!!!!

Can someone please tell me were is ignore button

For some reason you also do not want to acknowledge that the burden of proof is on you.....can you prove to anyone(not just me) that ghosts exist?

Or are you just taking the word of your family(as you said before)? If you have never seen one and are just taking the word of your family, clearly you do not think for yourself otherwise you would have thought about these questions and how to respond convincingly.

[ljd1308]

Yes you are same poster diffrent name but still so terribly wrong on all counts I really feel sorry for you

Who do you think I am the same poster as? I can assure you I only post under one name, why are you confused by this? Did someone tell you I was the same as another poster and you believed it without looking into it yourself(that kinda makes sense given your posts)?

And what am I terribly wrong about? Ghosts? Am I wrong about ghosts? Are the coming to get me?

Could you also explain why you feel sorry for me? I didn't think I actually knew you, so if we know each other enough for you to feel sorry for me(thanks for your sympathy by the way), then who are you?

Unless of course you have no idea who I am......but that would mean you are making assumptions and reaching conclusions without any facts something you definitely would not do.....Oh wait, that is exactly what you do isn't it?

[Liquorice]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

[ljd1308]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

I do not believe in made up things, that includes all gods and their children....So I am not a hypocrite according to you. My parents did lie to me about santa claus and such, you are right.....but why would you want to lie to your children? Why do you need to? I certainly don't with mine.

The 2nd highlighted bit pretty much hits the nail on the head..... The Thai person believing in ghosts has not developed their own mind, they are just basing it on what they were told as a child.

I have not attacked anyone, I have just asked perfectly reasonable questions which have been avoided like the plague(as most religious people do).

If Thai's do not think their Buddhism is a religion.....then why do they pray? And who do they pray to? I did ask this but it was one of the many things there was no answer too.

[Liquorice]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

I do not believe in made up things, that includes all gods and their children....So I am not a hypocrite according to you. My parents did lie to me about santa claus and such, you are right.....but why would you want to lie to your children? Why do you need to? I certainly don't with mine.

The 2nd highlighted bit pretty much hits the nail on the head..... The Thai person believing in ghosts has not developed their own mind, they are just basing it on what they were told as a child.

I have not attacked anyone, I have just asked perfectly reasonable questions which have been avoided like the plague(as most religious people do).

If Thai's do not think their Buddhism is a religion.....then why do they pray? And who do they pray to? I did ask this but it was one of the many things there was no answer too.

We are not Thai, nor born into a Buddhist way of life, so we'll never understand regardless of any explanations.

I do however respect the right of each individual to his own belief, provided it doesn't cause harm to others.

As far as I know Thai people pray for dead relatives or give food to monks in the name of dead relatives. It gives good deeds to dead spirits and help them to shorten the time to wait for next life. They also pray for a good way of life and to provide for family.

Plenty of information about Buddhism, just google your questions.

[ljd1308]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

I do not believe in made up things, that includes all gods and their children....So I am not a hypocrite according to you. My parents did lie to me about santa claus and such, you are right.....but why would you want to lie to your children? Why do you need to? I certainly don't with mine.

The 2nd highlighted bit pretty much hits the nail on the head..... The Thai person believing in ghosts has not developed their own mind, they are just basing it on what they were told as a child.

I have not attacked anyone, I have just asked perfectly reasonable questions which have been avoided like the plague(as most religious people do).

If Thai's do not think their Buddhism is a religion.....then why do they pray? And who do they pray to? I did ask this but it was one of the many things there was no answer too.

We are not Thai, nor born into a Buddhist way of life, so we'll never understand regardless of any explanations.

I do however respect the right of each individual to his own belief, provided it doesn't cause harm to others.

As far as I know Thai people pray for dead relatives or give food to monks in the name of dead relatives. It gives good deeds to dead spirits and help them to shorten the time to wait for next life. They also pray for a good way of life and to provide for family.

Plenty of information about Buddhism, just google your questions.

The highlighted bit is the biggest load of crap anyone could possible read anywhere(and i have read the bible)......Only if you are Thai can you understand Thais, is that really your theory?

Does that apply to everyone? I am Australian, so unless you are also Australian you cannot possibly understand what I am talking about regardless of explanation.

I tried talking to a friend the other day, but he was English and as I am not English I had no understanding of anything he said.

It does make the world alot smaller.

Using that expression is what Thais do cos they cos they cannot explain their actions, why did you do that? You wouldn't understand, it is a Thai thing. Maybe if you just try explaining and having a discussion rather than running away when someone questions you more people would understand.

Perhaps if people explained themselves better, you would have a world with more understanding rather than a group of people refusing to engage with each other cos they do not share the same upbringing. This could actually be a solution to world peace....talk about problems rather than striking out aggressively.

I took your advice and googled too, and I found that Thai buddhists believe in reincarnation....so if you die and get reincarnated, why do you need to pray too/for dead people that in their religion have been reincarnated? Why do monks need food for the reincarnated? What do the monks actually do with the food? Do the monks actually believe that dead people need food and the only way to get it is give it to monks? What connection do monks have with the dead that others don't?

But it also comes back to the original question, who are they praying too? I dont believe in god in any way shape or form, but if you prayed to the christian god atleast it makes sense(in a way) as you believe him to be a celestial being.

So if Buddha was a man(and this is what Buddhists believe) not a celestial being, and the relatives have been reincarnated(again a buddhist belief), and monks have no "connection" to buddha(as priests would claim they do with god).....who are they praying to?

And perhaps more importantly, who is answering?

These are the answers that google cannot provide and why I posted on a community forum asking people who actually do these things for a reason, however no one can explain and apparently the reason they cannot explain is because I am not Thai.......

[Lopchan]

Yes I belive in ghosts and to a certain extent black magic. I was brought up that way and I may add I bring my son up that way as well. I will not sleep in any room unless there is a budda figure in there. I will not travel in any form of transport unless I have my budda with me. We also throw a stone on roof of house every big budda day. Have I seen a ghost I don't know the answer to that who knows a ghost could be anything or anyone. I am thai that is my belief I'm not really bothered if you don't belive.

you live in the 21st century and think like the 1600's passing this nonsense on to your kids makes you a pretty poor parent. No evidence for either , you are totally irrational and seem proud to "pass on" the nonsense, Id actually call it "child abuse"

Attacking someone's beliefs in THEIR culture whilst presumably residing in their country and labeling their beliefs as child abuse...well done indeed..your self description is apt as you yourself say "Pompous ass"

[Testacall]

Easy tiger ..threads going fine but u see the need to bash somebody for their justified opinion and well articulated response

Anyway back on thread ...my question is don't u think throwing rocks at the spirits would kind of piss them off ? I'm lost how this works .

[seedy]

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[The Deerhunter]

I read the Bible.

It says a virgin who was married yet somehow still a virgin gave birth to the son of God who is somehow still God.

You pay him respects by going to church and pretend to eat his flesh and drink his

Blood and declare him your Savior.

He raised the dead and walked on water and rose from the dead himself.

Their followers claim thais are backwards

And he was something like the 22nd messiah in ancient mythology to have almost all of those miraculous things to happen "just to him" He was the last in a long list of messiahs of numerous ancient religions who were born of a virgin, stars, wise men, numerous miracles repeated, died & resurrected on the third day etc etc etc.

And the lineage of Joseph who was not meant to be the father was spelled out to umpteen generations back to King David to prove something but I not sure what, because it seems rather pointless. The lineage of God The Father might have been illuminating, though but we didn't get that, only Cuckold Joseph. Actually, the lineages of Mary and Joseph were both spelled out in two different books of the NT and the lineages in the two different books apparently do not match each other in almost any remote way. But it is all the inerrant Word of God, regardless!

And don't even start me on Abraham and his problems of having kids to carry on the family and literally promised, God-given lineage.

[Testacall]

Please everyone don't get him started about Abraham and the kids...I'm lost to what he was on about before

Seriously,why do bible thumpers always come out of thin air...now I'm starting to understand the stone throwing

[kannot]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

[stevenl]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

You're addressing her personally, so of course it is a personal attack. And again you're accusing her of ignorance.

[kannot]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

You're addressing her personally, so of course it is a personal attack. And again you're accusing her of ignorance.

its an attack on "belief"................on an anonymous forum

[stevenl]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

You're addressing her personally, so of course it is a personal attack. And again you're accusing her of ignorance.

its an attack on "belief"................on an anonymous forum

"Jeab clearly cannot think this through"

"pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?"

"Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack"

Plus your comparison to IS child soldiers murdering people.

Your own words say it all.

[overherebc]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

You're addressing her personally, so of course it is a personal attack. And again you're accusing her of ignorance.

its an attack on "belief"................on an anonymous forum

"Jeab clearly cannot think this through"

"pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?"

"Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack"

Plus your comparison to IS child soldiers murdering people.

Your own words say it all.

Just to get back on topic, what size are these stones thrown on the roof.

What if they roll back off and smack someone on the head. Would that show the spirits are strong or just don,t like stones being thrown at them?

[daoyai]

It has been an interesting topic. The input from a local female demonstrates the cultural differences clearly, back when her beliefs are first questioned she sees that as confrontational and immediatly wants to block the questioner (remind you of any past girlfriends?). She then feels the need to defend her "culture" against foreign ridicule without addressing the questions. This is quite interesting as her English skill is high so she must (?) be familiar with farang style, and she is posting on a primarily farang website. The more she is challenged, the more her emotions overrule her intelect.

I am interested to know if she really feels there are ghosts on the roof and if they are really scared away by rocks.

These traditions seem rather fun if taken in the spirit of "we used to think there were ghosts" so now we do it for traditional reasons... maybe in the future when education improves.

Though not "child abuse", teaching kids this nonsense does impede their ability to learn the sciences...as demonstrated by some of the pronouncements by the local scientific, medical and political community there is a strong bias toward superstition exhibited.

[kannot]

its an attack on "belief"................on an anonymous forum

You're addressing her personally, so of course it is a personal attack. And again you're accusing her of ignorance.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

"Jeab clearly cannot think this through"

"pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?"

"Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack"

Plus your comparison to IS child soldiers murdering people.

Your own words say it all.

indeed they do....................at the end of the topic

[jeab1980]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

Well I belive it is a personal Attack by you on me calling me a child abuser and I never ever asked for opinions I posted that I belive in ghosts and black magic that was all and I do not belive you at all you are very vindictive and your excuse of an apology is not accepted good bye

[kannot]

Millions of Foreigners believe in God and Jesus, the son of God.

What evidence is there that they ever existed, only those told in the Bible.

I don't know if ljd1308 or kannot are believers, but if they are, they are also hypocrites.

At some point in your childhood, didn't your parents tell you if you were good, that a man called Santa Claus would bring presents at Christmas time, and when you lost your first tooth, if you placed it under your pillow, a fairy would take it and leave sixpence.

Absolute fable, but for a while you believed it.

Would that mean your parents abused you for a period kannot?

A child, as we once were, will grow to develop their own mind, thoughts, opinions and beliefs regardless of what you are told as a child.

Thais are Buddhist, not a religion and not philosophy, but a way of life.

They are entitled to their beliefs and opinions, without personally attacks about their way of life.

If you don't agree, then agree too disagree, but to suggest they are child abusers because of their teaching is way out of line.

Do you think if religion/superstitions was taught to people when they were 18 yrs old and upwards it would still work as well as at very young children......young minds are easily filled with stuff (watch an Isis kid murder a captured soldeir etc) which they will then believe until death, get em young. on top of that you get societies peer pressure to ram it home. Its ABUSE, sure its not like locking them up in a cellar and raping them

In the West "eternal hell" as a child imagine hearing that if you werent a "good boy"

Thankfully I had 2 parents who werent religious so didnt have the tooth fairy and other nonsense.

It seems here the myhts continue into old age whereas the tooth fairy and Santa soon fall by the wayside

Jeab clearly cannot think this through, its hard to break the bonds of the parents who taught her this and the society she has been brought up in, I dont mean her any harm she needs to just think it through, she hasnt seen a ghost (and even seeing is not evidence) she has no evidence for a ghost yet still wants to "believe" and also pass on that "belief" to her kids.....does that sound like a good idea to you?

She can believe anything she wants nothing to do with me except when it appears on the forum and asks opinions I am likely to reply.t

Just pointing out the craziness, Jeab though has taken it as a personal attack and its not.

Well I belive it is a personal Attack by you on me calling me a child abuser and I never ever asked for opinions I posted that I belive in ghosts and black magic that was all and I do not belive you at all you are very vindictive and your excuse of an apology is not accepted good bye

Guess you remain unchanged then....pity

[gemguy]

We do not believe that sort of "stuff" works at all...but they do...lol....while every Thai person I have known, when asked if they believe in ghosts and spirits and or have they seen one they all claim they do, they do exist and or I have seen a ghost...as if there could be no other answer.

So then, just for fun I tell them we believe in Santa Clause and Easter Bunnies that leave magical eggs about for children to find and the one that is the most important to us Westerners is the M&M spirits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knidq8QClHw

Cheers

Here is a thought for you to ponder. You dont believe in ghosts and the like but I would guess you believe in a god. Neither can be proven.

Isn't the most popular god on earth a ghost or a spirit?

Someone who died, but isn't dead?

Someone who is everywhere, but can't be seen anywhere?

It's all rubbish.

Superstitions used to control the masses and make a select few very wealthy.

and tax exempt as well.

Good work if you can get it!

That was a big part of what I pointed out or what I was implying ...way back in the beginning of this thread.

I was never suckered into believing all the religious fairy tales, so, to this day, I question as to why did so many other people allow themselves to be suckered into believing religious fairy tales along with demons and spirits and the likes of Vampires and Dracula.

When you are a kid you believe all kinds of Fairy Tales and silly lies and largely embellished stories and whatever your parents and adults tell you.

For awhile there I also believed in "Wombats" and said to be half huge bats and half wolves and the reasons as to why the tops of fir trees and cedar trees were missing and all destroyed looking....because that is what Wombats do....rip off the tops of trees...just because....we were told...and do not doubt it.....boy!

I was 8 years old at summer camp and that is what the camp councilors told us when we asked them why some of the big trees surrounding us have the tops of the trees missing and all destroyed looking.

Wombats was the answer ...and we believed.......wide eyed and afraid.

That and the Red Hand will get you if you go outside at night when we were supposed to be sleeping in our bunk houses while the Red Hand story really had me thinking it was true while the story was elaborate and all part of the summer camp history and scary as hell to an 8 year old....but we believed.

Of course, eventually, I figured out on my own that Wombats do not exist and the Red Hand was a lie......along with so many other fairy tales and silly stories in life...including Vampires do not exist and neither does God and neither does the Devil and no need to believe what the bible told me.

Point is: Concerning Thailand.....Why do so many people here in Thailand insist there are ghosts and spirits and demons and Angels and not just a few of them...supposedly over 20 different kinds of them and needing to be dealt with in some manner during ones existence if you are a Thai person.

Why do they not grow out of those beliefs instilled in them during their child hood while apparently believing that this believe in all the many types of Ghosts and Spirits and Demons and Angles is of a nature that should be preserved and sustained and perpetuated as part of their culture

Is it a conformity issue and simply going along with what is seen performed by others or believed as the way it is and not to be questioned, so do not resist it rather just except it and do not rock the boat..so to speak....

I do not understand how they can believe in such non existence "entities" while allowing such non existent entities to control their lives to a significant degree and actually participate in such silly rituals......unless they truly enjoy it and think it is all in good fun and all part of socializing and getting along.....if that be the case, as all of it is amusing and entertaining and pleasantly "quaint"

If so, then carry on as usual as it does not matter to me ...but like I said before: Those Thai people...Sometimes, they crack me...They really do

Meantime....I believe "they" do NOT exist..at all..no way...as in Nope...Never....lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1-NvLJFDsw

Cheers

[kannot]

We do not believe that sort of "stuff" works at all...but they do...lol....while every Thai person I have known, when asked if they believe in ghosts and spirits and or have they seen one they all claim they do, they do exist and or I have seen a ghost...as if there could be no other answer.

So then, just for fun I tell them we believe in Santa Clause and Easter Bunnies that leave magical eggs about for children to find and the one that is the most important to us Westerners is the M&M spirits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knidq8QClHw

Cheers

Here is a thought for you to ponder. You dont believe in ghosts and the like but I would guess you believe in a god. Neither can be proven.

Isn't the most popular god on earth a ghost or a spirit?

Someone who died, but isn't dead?

Someone who is everywhere, but can't be seen anywhere?

It's all rubbish.

Superstitions used to control the masses and make a select few very wealthy.

and tax exempt as well.

Good work if you can get it!

That was a big part of what I pointed out or what I was implying ...way back in the beginning of this thread.

I was never suckered into believing all the religious fairy tales, so, to this day, I question as to why did so many other people allow themselves to be suckered into believing religious fairy tales along with demons and spirits and the likes of Vampires and Dracula.

When you are a kid you believe all kinds of Fairy Tales and silly lies and largely embellished stories and whatever your parents and adults tell you.

For awhile there I also believed in "Wombats" and said to be half huge bats and half wolves and the reasons as to why the tops of fir trees and cedar trees were missing and all destroyed looking....because that is what Wombats do....rip off the tops of trees...just because....we were told...and do not doubt it.....boy!

I was 8 years old at summer camp and that is what the camp councilors told us when we asked them why some of the big trees surrounding us have the tops of the trees missing and all destroyed looking.

Wombats was the answer ...and we believed.......wide eyed and afraid.

That and the Red Hand will get you if you go outside at night when we were supposed to be sleeping in our bunk houses while the Red Hand story really had me thinking it was true while the story was elaborate and all part of the summer camp history and scary as hell to an 8 year old....but we believed.

Of course, eventually, I figured out on my own that Wombats do not exist and the Red Hand was a lie......along with so many other fairy tales and silly stories in life...including Vampires do not exist and neither does God and neither does the Devil and no need to believe what the bible told me.

Point is: Concerning Thailand.....Why do so many people here in Thailand insist there are ghosts and spirits and demons and Angels and not just a few of them...supposedly over 20 different kinds of them and needing to be dealt with in some manner during ones existence if you are a Thai person.

Why do they not grow out of those beliefs instilled in them during their child hood while apparently believing that this believe in all the many types of Ghosts and Spirits and Demons and Angles is of a nature that should be preserved and sustained and perpetuated as part of their culture

Is it a conformity issue and simply going along with what is seen performed by others or believed as the way it is and not to be questioned, so do not resist it rather just except it and do not rock the boat..so to speak....

I do not understand how they can believe in such non existence "entities" while allowing such non existent entities to control their lives to a significant degree and actually participate in such silly rituals......unless they truly enjoy it and think it is all in good fun and all part of socializing and getting along.....if that be the case, as all of it is amusing and entertaining and pleasantly "quaint"

If so, then carry on as usual as it does not matter to me ...but like I said before: Those Thai people...Sometimes, they crack me...They really do

Meantime....I believe "they" do NOT exist..at all..no way...as in Nope...Never....lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1-NvLJFDsw

Cheers

They are taught this from birth and its rammed down their throats right trhu their lives with I guess an awful lot of peer pressure to comply but of course the person wed like to ask about this and who could clarify it all wont tell us why.

Nothing wrong with traditions if seen for what they are but then you can go to Africa and get girls being circumcised with a bit of glass or old razor.....tradition

[ljd1308]

We do not believe that sort of "stuff" works at all...but they do...lol....while every Thai person I have known, when asked if they believe in ghosts and spirits and or have they seen one they all claim they do, they do exist and or I have seen a ghost...as if there could be no other answer.

So then, just for fun I tell them we believe in Santa Clause and Easter Bunnies that leave magical eggs about for children to find and the one that is the most important to us Westerners is the M&M spirits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knidq8QClHw

Cheers

Here is a thought for you to ponder. You dont believe in ghosts and the like but I would guess you believe in a god. Neither can be proven.

Isn't the most popular god on earth a ghost or a spirit?

Someone who died, but isn't dead?

Someone who is everywhere, but can't be seen anywhere?

It's all rubbish.

Superstitions used to control the masses and make a select few very wealthy.

and tax exempt as well.

Good work if you can get it!

That was a big part of what I pointed out or what I was implying ...way back in the beginning of this thread.

I was never suckered into believing all the religious fairy tales, so, to this day, I question as to why did so many other people allow themselves to be suckered into believing religious fairy tales along with demons and spirits and the likes of Vampires and Dracula.

When you are a kid you believe all kinds of Fairy Tales and silly lies and largely embellished stories and whatever your parents and adults tell you.

For awhile there I also believed in "Wombats" and said to be half huge bats and half wolves and the reasons as to why the tops of fir trees and cedar trees were missing and all destroyed looking....because that is what Wombats do....rip off the tops of trees...just because....we were told...and do not doubt it.....boy!

I was 8 years old at summer camp and that is what the camp councilors told us when we asked them why some of the big trees surrounding us have the tops of the trees missing and all destroyed looking.

Wombats was the answer ...and we believed.......wide eyed and afraid.

That and the Red Hand will get you if you go outside at night when we were supposed to be sleeping in our bunk houses while the Red Hand story really had me thinking it was true while the story was elaborate and all part of the summer camp history and scary as hell to an 8 year old....but we believed.

Of course, eventually, I figured out on my own that Wombats do not exist and the Red Hand was a lie......along with so many other fairy tales and silly stories in life...including Vampires do not exist and neither does God and neither does the Devil and no need to believe what the bible told me.

Point is: Concerning Thailand.....Why do so many people here in Thailand insist there are ghosts and spirits and demons and Angels and not just a few of them...supposedly over 20 different kinds of them and needing to be dealt with in some manner during ones existence if you are a Thai person.

Why do they not grow out of those beliefs instilled in them during their child hood while apparently believing that this believe in all the many types of Ghosts and Spirits and Demons and Angles is of a nature that should be preserved and sustained and perpetuated as part of their culture

Is it a conformity issue and simply going along with what is seen performed by others or believed as the way it is and not to be questioned, so do not resist it rather just except it and do not rock the boat..so to speak....

I do not understand how they can believe in such non existence "entities" while allowing such non existent entities to control their lives to a significant degree and actually participate in such silly rituals......unless they truly enjoy it and think it is all in good fun and all part of socializing and getting along.....if that be the case, as all of it is amusing and entertaining and pleasantly "quaint"

If so, then carry on as usual as it does not matter to me ...but like I said before: Those Thai people...Sometimes, they crack me...They really do

Meantime....I believe "they" do NOT exist..at all..no way...as in Nope...Never....lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1-NvLJFDsw

Cheers

I actually think(I stress think) the issue is that Thais in general don't care to ask questions and just accept what they are told about virtually anything. The problem is when that info is quite clearly false. Due to this a lot of false information gets passed around as fact without anyone bothering to look into it and when they are questioned they don't have the answers.

I think it plays out in all parts of Thai society, you see how defensive Herr General gets when asked a question.

You see it in schools where students are taught not to ask questions of their teachers(pretty much the opposite of any decent educational facility in the world where questions are encouraged)

You see it in the limited number of Thai inventions.

You see it at every set of traffic lights where they sell the "lucky" charms to hang on your mirror....has any Thai person ever connected blocking out half your windscreen with the high rate of car accidents here? Or have they just accepted it is lucky without any further thought?

I think this has even played out in this thread where the one Thai person posting gets defensive when questioned and the reason is probably because she has never asked these questions and just believed what someone told them, so they can't possibly know the answer.....the only answer is "I believe".

The real problem comes when someone is faced with overwhelming evidence and still just reverts back to "I believe" without any sort of cogent argument and then run away from the questions.....

And to anyone saying personal beliefs are up to that person and cannot be questioned.....they are no longer personal if you are posting them on a public forum like this and you need to expect people to question you when you say outrageous things like "I believe in ghosts".

We are also told to respect Thai culture(in this very thread) but western culture is about asking questions and seeking answers. Should Thai posters on an English Language forum not also respect western cultures and try to fit in with other posters?

And back on point, if ghosts were real and they meant to do you harm...how would throwing rocks hurt or scare them? Also, does someone get the rocks off the roof? Maybe a sideline business.

I would still like someone to tell me....If buddhists get reincarnated, who are the ghosts?

The thing for any Thais reading this to understand aswell, is that it is western culture to ask questions and try to get answers

[jeab1980]

We do not believe that sort of "stuff" works at all...but they do...lol....while every Thai person I have known, when asked if they believe in ghosts and spirits and or have they seen one they all claim they do, they do exist and or I have seen a ghost...as if there could be no other answer.

So then, just for fun I tell them we believe in Santa Clause and Easter Bunnies that leave magical eggs about for children to find and the one that is the most important to us Westerners is the M&M spirits.

Cheers

Here is a thought for you to ponder. You dont believe in ghosts and the like but I would guess you believe in a god. Neither can be proven.

Isn't the most popular god on earth a ghost or a spirit?

Someone who died, but isn't dead?

Someone who is everywhere, but can't be seen anywhere?

It's all rubbish.

Superstitions used to control the masses and make a select few very wealthy.

and tax exempt as well.

Good work if you can get it!

That was a big part of what I pointed out or what I was implying ...way back in the beginning of this thread.

I was never suckered into believing all the religious fairy tales, so, to this day, I question as to why did so many other people allow themselves to be suckered into believing religious fairy tales along with demons and spirits and the likes of Vampires and Dracula.

When you are a kid you believe all kinds of Fairy Tales and silly lies and largely embellished stories and whatever your parents and adults tell you.

For awhile there I also believed in "Wombats" and said to be half huge bats and half wolves and the reasons as to why the tops of fir trees and cedar trees were missing and all destroyed looking....because that is what Wombats do....rip off the tops of trees...just because....we were told...and do not doubt it.....boy!

I was 8 years old at summer camp and that is what the camp councilors told us when we asked them why some of the big trees surrounding us have the tops of the trees missing and all destroyed looking.

Wombats was the answer ...and we believed.......wide eyed and afraid.

That and the Red Hand will get you if you go outside at night when we were supposed to be sleeping in our bunk houses while the Red Hand story really had me thinking it was true while the story was elaborate and all part of the summer camp history and scary as hell to an 8 year old....but we believed.

Of course, eventually, I figured out on my own that Wombats do not exist and the Red Hand was a lie......along with so many other fairy tales and silly stories in life...including Vampires do not exist and neither does God and neither does the Devil and no need to believe what the bible told me.

Point is: Concerning Thailand.....Why do so many people here in Thailand insist there are ghosts and spirits and demons and Angels and not just a few of them...supposedly over 20 different kinds of them and needing to be dealt with in some manner during ones existence if you are a Thai person.

Why do they not grow out of those beliefs instilled in them during their child hood while apparently believing that this believe in all the many types of Ghosts and Spirits and Demons and Angles is of a nature that should be preserved and sustained and perpetuated as part of their culture

Is it a conformity issue and simply going along with what is seen performed by others or believed as the way it is and not to be questioned, so do not resist it rather just except it and do not rock the boat..so to speak....

I do not understand how they can believe in such non existence "entities" while allowing such non existent entities to control their lives to a significant degree and actually participate in such silly rituals......unless they truly enjoy it and think it is all in good fun and all part of socializing and getting along.....if that be the case, as all of it is amusing and entertaining and pleasantly "quaint"

If so, then carry on as usual as it does not matter to me ...but like I said before: Those Thai people...Sometimes, they crack me...They really do

Meantime....I believe "they" do NOT exist..at all..no way...as in Nope...Never....lol

Cheers

I actually think(I stress think) the issue is that Thais in general don't care to ask questions and just accept what they are told about virtually anything. The problem is when that info is quite clearly false. Due to this a lot of false information gets passed around as fact without anyone bothering to look into it and when they are questioned they don't have the answers.

I think it plays out in all parts of Thai society, you see how defensive Herr General gets when asked a question.

You see it in schools where students are taught not to ask questions of their teachers(pretty much the opposite of any decent educational facility in the world where questions are encouraged)

You see it in the limited number of Thai inventions.

You see it at every set of traffic lights where they sell the "lucky" charms to hang on your mirror....has any Thai person ever connected blocking out half your windscreen with the high rate of car accidents here? Or have they just accepted it is lucky without any further thought?

I think this has even played out in this thread where the one Thai person posting gets defensive when questioned and the reason is probably because she has never asked these questions and just believed what someone told them, so they can't possibly know the answer.....the only answer is "I believe".

The real problem comes when someone is faced with overwhelming evidence and still just reverts back to "I believe" without any sort of cogent argument and then run away from the questions.....

And to anyone saying personal beliefs are up to that person and cannot be questioned.....they are no longer personal if you are posting them on a public forum like this and you need to expect people to question you when you say outrageous things like "I believe in ghosts".

We are also told to respect Thai culture(in this very thread) but western culture is about asking questions and seeking answers. Should Thai posters on an English Language forum not also respect western cultures and try to fit in with other posters?

And back on point, if ghosts were real and they meant to do you harm...how would throwing rocks hurt or scare them? Also, does someone get the rocks off the roof? Maybe a sideline business.

I would still like someone to tell me....If buddhists get reincarnated, who are the ghosts?

The thing for any Thais reading this to understand aswell, is that it is western culture to ask questions and try to get answers

Ok slamming my culture people tell me why do millions and millions of Christians belive in ghosts andmagic then