Farang child not allowed to play for school team

Happy Grumpy · August 2, 2016

A 12 year old full-Westerner in a Thai Government School??

Not being able to play for the wolleyball team is the least of her worries. What are her parents thinking???

Morakot · August 2, 2016

2 minutes ago, moe666 said:

She was accepted on the school team it was the people running the compition who refused her

Hence the school must pressure the organisers not to arbitrarily refuse its students.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Morakot

ClutchClark · August 2, 2016

15 minutes ago, Morakot said:

Well, is this really a "policy" or just something this school did?

If however this is true, what's the point allowing non-Thai people at the school if they are not allowed to do things there?

Briggsy has knowledge of this topic, I do not.

I hope it all works out for the OP daughter.

Sometimes the best lessons in life are the ones that didn't work out the way he had hoped.

Morakot · August 2, 2016

1 minute ago, Happy Grumpy said:

A 12 year old full-Westerner in a Thai Government School??

Not being able to play for the wolleyball team is the least of her worries. What are her parents thinking???

Best not to judge things we don't fully know about..

Deepinthailand · August 2, 2016

1 minute ago, Happy Grumpy said:

A 12 year old full-Westerner in a Thai Government School??

Not being able to play for the wolleyball team is the least of her worries. What are her parents thinking???

That's got to be the most silvers point bigoted resonse I've ever seen on here very small minded. Must be a private school boy reply

Morakot · August 2, 2016

2 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

Briggsy has knowledge of this topic, I do not.

I don't think it's a policy.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Morakot

Briggsy · August 2, 2016

I will reiterate that the daughter in question cannot be officially enrolled at a govt. school if she is not a Thai national. There will have to be some sort of financial deal or otherwise (e.g. sympathy from local school - some education is better than none) to allow the daughter to attend classes. She cannot receive any sort of Thai high school certificate or diploma showing attainment.

It is also noteworthy that the OP with no previous posting history has long since disappeared.

And that most posters just take the OP's post at face value and just post a rant.

It is important to consider a wider picture and the background situation.

boomerangutang · August 2, 2016

If she is a student at the school, she should be allowed to play. The ruling is despicable. It adds yet more proof of xenophobia in Thailand.

Suggest: try to appeal to a higher person. Thailand is mega stratified socially (arguably worse than India). There's always a person with more clout, sometimes just a phone call away.

connda · August 2, 2016

Post deleted.

Edited August 2, 2016 by connda

Mangostin · August 2, 2016

55 minutes ago, frog555 said:

We know well : thai are racialist. Thanks to that, they can protect their nation.

We like Thailand, then we must accept that fact. The problem is for mixed blood children only.

Western Europeans should be racialist. Then they could protect their lands and nations as well.

Protect from what exactly? From respecting someone which has a different skin colour than yours? Protecting us from granting a kid in a school a fair and equal treatment?? What sorts of people are you??? Please explain yourself

Morakot · August 2, 2016

43 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

She cannot receive any sort of Thai high school certificate or diploma showing attainment.

I was under the impression state school issue transcripts themselves.

This is completely new to me that some government body would issue a "high school certificate". If for some reason a school transcript would need to be certified, the Ministry of Eduction would certify providing the pupil can show she held the correct visa during her time of attendance.

PS: I was talking to a girl from Burma the other days. She came here as a (illegal) refugee and initially lived in a camp. She later went to high school here. I didn't see the certificate she got from that Thai school, but know for a fact that she was accepted at a Thai university for a degree course.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Morakot

glegolo · August 2, 2016

I take a wild guess here, as an old soccer-coach back in west. There is a small chance that something is lost here, maybe in translation.....

Maybe it is so easy that this falang-child is a quite bad player, and they do not want her, they have better player...... So she is not good enough!!!! Maybe hard to swallow for a parent,, have seen that before too many times..

But this is just a guess of course..

Glegolo

Morakot · August 2, 2016

8 minutes ago, glegolo said:

I take a wild guess here, as an old soccer-coach back in west. There is a small chance that something is lost here, maybe in translation.....

Maybe it is so easy that this falang-child is a quite bad player, and they do not want her, they have better player...... So she is not good enough!!!! Maybe hard to swallow for a parent,, have seen that before too many times..

Possibly or possibly that the child is extremely good and the organisers from the other school arbitrarily refused the girl to the advantage of their own team.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Morakot

GOLDBUGGY · August 2, 2016

8 hours ago, Thian said:

Strange, what do the Thai think about Thai children who go to school abroad? Do they get the same treatment there? Guess not since we are social people.

Also they probably don't see the advantage, this girl is farang, probably tall and that's perfect for volleyball.

"probably tall and that's perfect for volleyball"

And Basket Ball! And Track & Field! And Soccer! And Thai Boxing! And Hell.....even a Goalie in Ice Hockey!

Scott · August 2, 2016

I haven't directly run into a child being denied sporting activities, but our sports activities are held with sister schools in the same system and thus would not encounter the same problem.

I have heard of competitions where farang children and 1/2 Thai children have been told they can't compete. This included an area-wide English speaking contest, although one of the Thai children who had been born in the US and went to school in the US until G. 4 was allowed to compete (and won quite easily). English was his native language and he attended school in Thailand because his parents decided he should learn Thai.

As an earlier member posted, children who are of Asian ancestry do not run into the same problem. No problem for students who are Korean, Chinese or Filipino.

Mangostin · August 2, 2016

12 minutes ago, Morakot said:

Possibly or possibly that the child is extremely good and the organisers from the other school arbitrarily refused the girl to the advantage of their own team.

That sounds somewhat familiar.

Does anyone can recall a notorious local practice of hiring foreigners, because it's not possible to find an equivalent gifted individual, just for at the completion of the job, hiding the real makers, quoting them as an almost useless presence and giving all the honours to the magnificent and super talented mighty greatest, etc, etc,...other part involved??? Which obviously will never ever be an alien

nontabury · August 2, 2016

1 hour ago, Deepinthailand said:

That's got to be the most silvers point bigoted resonse I've ever seen on here very small minded. Must be a private school boy reply

Have you had much experiance of Thai schools. And more importanty have you,or would you be happy to send your own child to a Thai state school, disregarding 2 or 3 in Bangkok.

SOTIRIOS · August 2, 2016

....wow.....

Generalchaos · August 2, 2016

Yeah right! Imagine if Europe did the same thing? There would be all hell let loose from the Social Justice Warriors and the Fascist Left Wing Regressives, Human rights, appeals to the Hague etc. but you won't get a single voice of support from any of them over here, they live off hating white Europeans, what Blacks and Asians do does not come into their equation.

I feel for your daughter, it really is terribly unfair, don't really know how you put that right in a child's mind. Maybe you could tell her that they don't want her in the team because she is way way smarter than any of them aqnd the competition!

It really stinks! I have some of a similar issue with my Luk Krung and the School Cadets!

surangw · August 2, 2016

they are worried they will lose face when the the other thai kids get their hinnies whipped in a game

by a frarang

Deepinthailand · August 2, 2016

11 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Have you had much experiance of Thai schools. And more importanty have you,or would you be happy to send your own child to a Thai state school, disregarding 2 or 3 in Bangkok.

Yes and yes

Johnniey · August 2, 2016

6 hours ago, deonvz said:

I would not be surprised that in future mixed or foreign children will only be able to attend international schools.

I would be very surprised.

Johnniey · August 2, 2016

6 minutes ago, Generalchaos said:

Yeah right! Imagine if Europe did the same thing? There would be all hell let loose from the Social Justice Warriors and the Fascist Left Wing Regressives, Human rights, appeals to the Hague etc. but you won't get a single voice of support from any of them over here, they live off hating white Europeans, what Blacks and Asians do does not come into their equation.

I feel for your daughter, it really is terribly unfair, don't really know how you put that right in a child's mind. Maybe you could tell her that they don't want her in the team because she is way way smarter than any of them aqnd the competition!

It really stinks! I have some of a similar issue with my Luk Krung and the School Cadets!

You are wrong!

We like Thailand for the freedom it offers us. The organizer saw a foreigner that would give the other team an unfair advantage so banned her.

Who wants to live in a country that doesn't even allow you to take a photo of kids playing volleyball, according to my Ozzie mate?

I have 4 half-caste kids and they've always had MANY more advantages over Thais.

JetsetBkk · August 2, 2016

8 hours ago, Fookhaht said:

The discrimination is open, shameless, and deeply entrenched.

billd766 · August 2, 2016

8 hours ago, MissAndry said:

I think they mean the contest is for Thai nationals only. Completely reasonable IMHO.

I doubt they would have allowed foreign nationals of any racial background to compete.

Do you think that my son would have been allowed to play? He is dual nationality, Thai and British. He has a Thai ID card and passport and also a UK passport.

Johnniey · August 2, 2016

1 hour ago, Deepinthailand said:

That's got to be the most silvers point bigoted resonse I've ever seen on here very small minded. Must be a private school boy reply

1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said:

A 12 year old full-Westerner in a Thai Government School??

Not being able to play for the wolleyball team is the least of her worries. What are her parents thinking???

Maybe they are on a teacher's salary and get her in free.

Two of my kids went to Mattayom at Govt schools(gifted programs) and one got a Master's from Oz and the other is studying in a top uni in England.

billd766 · August 2, 2016

6 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

Im stunned anyone would send their farang child to a Thai government school

Why?

billd766 · August 2, 2016

5 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

By now everyone should know the thai motto towards farang and all foreigners is

COME HERE SPEND YOUR MONEY THEN GET OUT.

Really? And just how long did you live here before spending all your money and then got out?

Johnniey · August 2, 2016

9 minutes ago, JetsetBkk said:

So many forget what our own country was like when we were young. This was only 40 years ago. Now we have learned to live in a plural society we think a developing country like Thailand should somehow, automatically be up to our moral superiority - pathetic.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Johnniey

Generalchaos · August 2, 2016

8 minutes ago, Johnniey said:

You are wrong!

We like Thailand for the freedom it offers us. The organizer saw a foreigner that would give the other team an unfair advantage so banned her.

Who wants to live in a country that doesn't even allow you to take a photo of kids playing volleyball, according to my Ozzie mate?

I have 4 half-caste kids and they've always had MANY more advantages over Thais.

You lost me there, your post makes no sense at all! Banning a child from playing for her school is just wrong, no ifs or buts, it is just wrong!

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