Beach walkway from Nth Rd to Central Rd.

[thaibeachlovers]

Walked that this afternoon.

The walkway itself seems OK. No evidence of subsidence or collapse. However, the little bricks they used are slowly being removed by the locals for whatever.

The new trees are growing well, though the shade they provide is minimal. However, the old growth trees are coming back well and they are providing some shade. Pity they didn't remove the dangerous coconut bearing palms while they were about it.

Virtually no seats available.

Is it ever cleaned? The whole length of the walkway is covered in sand to varying degrees.

 

On the other side of the road, the project to tart up the buildings is virtually over. Apart from the A1 hotel, it's mainly flash buildings and road frontages, and nary a bar beer in sight.

Unfortunately, looking at the beach, it just goes to prove that you can't polish a turd. At the very north end, the broken walkway around the headland is in evidence, the ugly big sandbags they put on the sand are still there, slowly disintegrating, and the rest of the beach as one walks south is pretty decrepit, not that there is much of it.. Still big holes in front of all the steps where the water rushes over.

The drainage pipes on the corner by the Thai Air office are incredibly ugly, and no attempt made to hide them, plus they seem to have forgotten to remove the tatty temporary fencing.

 

As for the road itself, adding a lane hasn't improved the traffic flow. All it has done is add another lane to make it harder to cross safely. Of course the pedestrian crossing lights are not working still.

I was a bit boggled to see new bus stop signs all along the road though. Not that they were being used.

 

Considering high season is nigh, it seems that the hoped for Riviera on Pattaya Bay is still a non starter.

[Upnotover]

Welcome back!

[Pattaya28]

OP. Call City Hall and suggest their favorite pastime. A "Temporary Botch-Job". 

[petermik]

The  authorities in City Hall had the Beach walkway renovated at great expense to give visitors to this world class family beach resort pleasant memories and enjoyable experiences,I am rather surprised that you have any reason to criticise it.................

[Awohalitsiktoli]

I think the same incompetent contractor was responsible for the promenade disaster in Jomtien.  It is filthy, parts of it have collapsed, other parts are near collapse, parts are "bending" and "cracking", the beautiful old growth trees and their shade are gone along with the once relaxing seating areas, and the steps leading to the beach (that were totally unnecessary) are causing massive erosion.  The entire design is a perfect example of what not to do in terms of beach renovation and promenade construction.  Totally FUBAR!

[thaibeachlovers]

This morning I walked along the footpath on the landward side of Beach Rd.

The authorities should be ashamed of themselves. They spent millions on the walkway and nothing on the footpath, which is in a very bad state of repair. Private enterprise has flashed up the buildings at great expense; the least city hall can do is improve the pavement.

[JSixpack]

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Unfortunately, looking at the beach, it just goes to prove that you can't polish a turd.

 

But AFAIK there's been no effort to "polish" the beach. Seems obvious.

 

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As for the road itself, adding a lane hasn't improved the traffic flow. All it has done is add another lane to make it harder to cross safely.

 

LOL. Right, only road in the world to which adding another lane doesn't improve the traffic flow. Actually it has indeed. I hate to think of what the flow would be like nowadays w/o it, esp. during high season or during festivals. In the last week I've had reason to ride down Beach Rd. every early afternoon and it's been just great.

 

Yet all improvements in a developing area must of course be temporary, as I said when the new lane was constructed. In fact road improvements are self-defeating as they tend to attract even more traffic. Bangkok is a good example; BTS and MRT have made no difference. Now in desperation the PM is giving the order to do "something." OK, that's a cue for our ace urban planners and traffic engineers to roll out the the real solution for the thousandth time.

[FracturedRabbit]

The area south of Bali Hai is also looking good....

http://www.pattayadays.com/2016/09/boulevard-of-broken-dreams-2/

[TaaSaparot]

Been bus stops along Beach Road, for many many years.

[phycokiller]

23 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This morning I walked along the footpath on the landward side of Beach Rd.

The authorities should be ashamed of themselves. They spent millions on the walkway and nothing on the footpath, which is in a very bad state of repair. Private enterprise has flashed up the buildings at great expense; the least city hall can do is improve the pavement.

actually nothing to stop private enterprise from maintaining the footpaths in front of their premises. I know normally city does but obviously that doesnt happen here and its not a big expense to make life easier for your customers, but they dont care, so why should the city?

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, TaaSaparot said:

Been bus stops along Beach Road, for many many years.

Yes, but the OP hasn't.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Yes, but the OP hasn't.

LOL.

been coming for over 20 years.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, phycokiller said:

actually nothing to stop private enterprise from maintaining the footpaths in front of their premises. I know normally city does but obviously that doesnt happen here and its not a big expense to make life easier for your customers, but they dont care, so why should the city?

Because the city managers want to attract the big spending tourists, and it's their job.

 

Mind you, that pavement is in tip top condition compared to the pavement on Central Rd.

[NanLaew]

13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

been coming for over 20 years.

I was of the impression that you were returning here after a long absence since you lost your excess baggage somewhere recently. If you've been here frequently during the past 20 years, there's little that should surprise you... apart perhaps from the demise of Malibu?

[kg1947]

 Maybe you're expecting a MIRACLE . 

it's been better than before , but there's a new team in charge at

City Hall - supervised by the NAVY .  Maybe a visit to the HQ in

Sattahip could do wonders . most sidewalks are a disgrace -

ANYWHERE , not just beach road / coconut bar .

[Bangkok Barry]

What they need to do is ban all traffic from Beach Road except for deliveries and make Second Road two-way. Coming off a beach to jam-packed traffic is ridiculous.

[Enoon]

Bad plastic surgery gone wrong.  It doesn't get "better".

 

The more they do, the worse it gets:

 

 

Walk away now.

 

[jacko45k]

The cables have all gone, didn't you notice that?

[Sooo Upto Me]

Apart from that everything is ok?

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

What they need to do is ban all traffic from Beach Road except for deliveries and make Second Road two-way. Coming off a beach to jam-packed traffic is ridiculous.

I suggested that years ago. I doubt they care what we think.

 

For the poster that thinks adding a lane but leaving it as a bottleneck at the end is speeding things up LOL, LOL, LOL.

Given that there is no way to cross safely, it is a very good thing that it hasn't got any faster.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎30‎.‎09‎.‎2016 at 1:38 PM, TaaSaparot said:

Been bus stops along Beach Road, for many many years.

Are you referring to the bus shelters that have indeed been on Beach Rd for many years, or to the shiny new bus stop signs?

[Anthony5]

9 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

What they need to do is ban all traffic from Beach Road except for deliveries and make Second Road two-way. Coming off a beach to jam-packed traffic is ridiculous.

 

Makinmg second road two way . I guess they made it one way for a reason 15 years ago.

 

How would you handle the current traffic on only half of the lanes, it is now jamming already at times, and second road can't be widened anymore.

[Anthony5]

On 9/30/2016 at 1:56 PM, phycokiller said:

actually nothing to stop private enterprise from maintaining the footpaths in front of their premises. I know normally city does but obviously that doesnt happen here and its not a big expense to make life easier for your customers, but they dont care, so why should the city?

 

Since the footpaths are public property, I doubt that any private business would be allowed to do any repairs or changes.

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

13 hours ago, Anthony5 said:

 

Makinmg second road two way . I guess they made it one way for a reason 15 years ago.

 

How would you handle the current traffic on only half of the lanes, it is now jamming already at times, and second road can't be widened anymore.

 

It has four of five lanes (can't remember exactly how many) and I've never seen the road jammed to the extent that Beach Road is. If they banned parking, the way the real world does on busy roads, then it could work. But no-one cares, because those who decide these things are often escorted and have the roads cleared for them.

[Bangkok Barry]

13 hours ago, Anthony5 said:

 

Since the footpaths are public property, I doubt that any private business would be allowed to do any repairs or changes.

 

 

 

That doesn't stop many businesses blocking the footpath, does it.

[Anthony5]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

It has four of five lanes (can't remember exactly how many) and I've never seen the road jammed to the extent that Beach Road is. If they banned parking, the way the real world does on busy roads, then it could work. But no-one cares, because those who decide these things are often escorted and have the roads cleared for them.

 

It is occasionally jammed, but just imagine reducing the lanes by half, then add all the beach road traffic to it.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

It has four of five lanes (can't remember exactly how many) and I've never seen the road jammed to the extent that Beach Road is. If they banned parking, the way the real world does on busy roads, then it could work. But no-one cares, because those who decide these things are often escorted and have the roads cleared for them.

You beat me to it. Second could easily handle two way if parking was banned.

Unfortunately, the car is allowed to run over any semblance of a decent society. Not just LOS. Brighton in England has been ruined by the car, but the authorities don't give a monkey's about quality of life.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, Anthony5 said:

 

It is occasionally jammed, but just imagine reducing the lanes by half, then add all the beach road traffic to it.

Easily solved by banning private cars, but, shamefully,  cars take precedence over everything these days. Future generations will despise us for what we do now.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

That doesn't stop many businesses blocking the footpath, does it.

Just because city hall doesn't do it's job, and instruct the police to remove all pavement obstructions, it doesn't mean that private enterprise has to do the city's job. There's plenty of money to fix everything broken in Pattaya, but somehow the money is not available to fix things. I know why, do you?

[JSixpack]

16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I suggested that years ago. I doubt they care what we think.

 

And how many times, after all. Sigh. But this is excellent progress: the sudden revelation that "they" don't care what we think. Most commendable. OK, there's one more major logical conclusion yet to be drawn . . . but where would be the fun in that. :)

 

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For the poster that thinks adding a lane but leaving it as a bottleneck at the end is speeding things up LOL, LOL, LOL.

 

I thought nowadays you're very conscious about posters staying on topic. Your topic doesn't extend farther than Central Rd. You're screwed!

 

Well, we're just gon' grasp at every straw to deny reality. So painful, eh. Having often driven Beach Rd. for many years, all seasons, all conditions, I know that traffic flow is far better now with the extra lane even given the increase in tour buses--which would absolutely choke the narrower version before the bottleneck. So, guess you'll have to either suck it up or remain a, ah, traffic flow Truther, LOL. I'm happy to agree to disagree on this topic, being the driver.

 

Now to get, like, really really technical for you, I'm of course talking about all of Beach Rd. up to Central Rd. but also to the bottleneck at the end. Now if an extra lane at the end would speed up traffic at the bottleneck, then an extra lane before the bottleneck must have helped the flow up to that point. :)

 

I'm gratified that our ace urban planners and traffic engineers have taken my cue to roll out the the real solution for the thousandth time. :) And it's finally been discovered that lo! corruption of all things exists in our beloved cesspool! Now that in itself is invaluable, "insider" information.

 

Now what's gone terribly missing in this recitation of old mantras is: the denunciation of the sewage pump! Get on it. Another piece of critical evidence, a nail in the coffin in forum-speak, in the great ongoing campaign to prove, once & for all, that Pattaya is physically, positively, absolutely (w/ apologies to the Munchkins) NOT no family resort! Ah ha! So there.

 

And it's fun also to point out that there's now quite a sufficiency of shade on the new promenade. Foot traffic is as good or better than it was even with the diminished coconut bar activity. :) Jeez.