US: Philippines' Duterte sparking distress around the world

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US: Philippines' Duterte sparking distress around the world 
JIM GOMEZ, Associated Press

 

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — America's top diplomat for Asia said Monday that Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's controversial remarks and a "real climate of uncertainty" about his government's intentions have sparked distress in the U.S. and other countries.

 

Daniel Russel, the assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, said he also relayed to Philippine Foreign Secretary Perfecto Yasay Jr. international concern over continuing killings under Duterte's crackdown against illegal drugs.

 

Russel's visit to the Philippines, part of a three-nation trip to Southeast Asia, comes amid increasing uncertainty about Washington's treaty alliance with Manila. The brash Duterte, who took office on June 30, has displayed antagonism toward America, declaring his desire to scale back military engagements with the U.S. and telling President Barack Obama to "go to hell."

 

Duterte's administration, however, has not formalized his public declarations to remove U.S. counterterrorism forces from the volatile southern Philippines and stop large-scale joint exercises involving American forces, creating confusion among even his Cabinet officials.

 

In a major walk-around, Duterte sparked diplomatic alarm when he announced during a state visit to Beijing last week his "separation" with the United States. Upon returning home the day after his stunning remarks, Duterte said he did not mean he was severing diplomatic ties with Washington but only wanted to end a foreign policy that's overly oriented toward the U.S.

 

"I've pointed out to Secretary Yasay that the succession of controversial statements, comments and a real climate of uncertainty about the Philippines' intentions has created consternation in a number of countries, not only in mine," Russel told reporters Monday in Manila after a meeting with Yasay that went overtime.

 

The unease, Russel said, was also palpable "not only among governments, but also ... in other communities, in the expat Filipino community, in corporation board rooms as well."

 

"This is not a positive trend," he said, adding that the U.S. remains committed to continuing a solid alliance with and providing assistance to the Philippines, including in fighting the drug menace.

 

Coinciding with Russel's visit, the U.S. military turned over a refurbished C-130T cargo plane Monday as part of Washington's effort to help modernize the underfunded Philippine military, which has struggled to deal with Muslim and communist insurgencies and natural disasters.

 

Outgoing U.S. Ambassador Philip Goldberg said at the turnover ceremony that the U.S. was trying to clarify Duterte's remarks in relation to existing policies, including their impact on planned joint military exercises. Despite the concerns, Goldberg said the U.S. rebalance to Asia would proceed.

 

"It's a historical relationship, it has its ups and downs," Goldberg told reporters. While he remains optimistic, Goldberg said "some of the language we've heard is inconsistent with that friendship."

 

Asked if joint combat exercises with the Americans would continue despite Duterte's declared opposition to them, Yasay could not give a categorical answer to reporters.

 

Duterte wanted the joint combat drills to enable the Philippines "to be self-reliant in our defensive requirements," Yasay said. "If this will not be achieved, (Duterte) said then, there's no purpose of proceeding with these."

 

Patrolling the China-held Scarborough Shoal with the U.S. Navy, for example, can send a signal that it's a deterrent against bad Chinese intentions. "It has precisely resulted in both parties digging in and made a peaceful resolution of the disputes even farthest from achieving," Yasay said.

 

Russel said that while Washington welcomes the relaxation of tensions between Manila and Beijing under Duterte, the rapprochement should not come at the expense of the U.S. or other nations.

 

"It's a mistake to think that improved relations between Manila and Beijing somehow come at the expense of the United States," he said. "This should be addition and not subtraction."

 

-- © Associated Press 2016-10-24

[Thechook]

The Americans wont like this.

[LawrenceChee]

I think the language of the diplomat is precisely what's pushing Duerte away

It's the same language used by the USA almost all of the time, dictating and commanding of what a sovereign country should do

No wonder they feel pissed that Duerte is taking without giving


The USA can keep it up or lose the advantage to the Chinese ...meanwhile the Philippines gets deals from both sides.

Intelligently played.




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[craigt3365]

6 hours ago, LawrenceChee said:

I think the language of the diplomat is precisely what's pushing Duerte away

It's the same language used by the USA almost all of the time, dictating and commanding of what a sovereign country should do

No wonder they feel pissed that Duerte is taking without giving


The USA can keep it up or lose the advantage to the Chinese ...meanwhile the Philippines gets deals from both sides.

Intelligently played.




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I don't see any "dictating and commanding" in Russel's comments. Seems you are reading too much into this.

 

Duterte's countrymen won't let him sever ties with the US.   Too much money at stake. His own words today were that he'd be killed by one of them if he tried to do this. Probably true.

[bangkapi]

He isn't following what the globalist shadow government demands. He cares about Filipinos.

He is causing the same type of "distress" as Brexit and Donald Trump.

[hawker9000]

16 hours ago, LawrenceChee said:

I think the language of the diplomat is precisely what's pushing Duerte away

It's the same language used by the USA almost all of the time, dictating and commanding of what a sovereign country should do

No wonder they feel pissed that Duerte is taking without giving


The USA can keep it up or lose the advantage to the Chinese ...meanwhile the Philippines gets deals from both sides.

Intelligently played.




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"The USA can keep it up or lose the advantage to the Chinese..."

 

LOL.   And what "advantage" is that exactly?  Some fearsome "balance of power" held by the PI?  Their economic weight?  If Duterte is so intent on letting the Chinese spin their web around the PI like some juicy moth, let him.  They'll get to find out what "imperialism" Chinese-style is all about.   It does kind of put a hole in Obama's "Pivot to the Pacific", but he never had a clue anyway.

[Publicus]

Nothing the U.S. has said since Duterte took office in July has been offensive, threatening, insulting or demeaning toward either Duterte or the Filipino people (in the Phils or in the USA).

 

Washington has been calm, reserved, subdued, analytical and now on the spot to engage the principals in Manila in the normal diplomacy. CCP Dictators in Beijing have been hailing the new dawn and cheering the arrival of a CCP-Duterte summer etc.

 

While CCP are praising Duterte as he peers out from their pocket, and as their fanboyz have been losing their marbles over Duterte, Washington knows that in the Phils, to the region and, as concerns the USA, this is all about one clown from the extreme South of the Phils who won election with 38% of the vote, most of it from his Muslin home province in the far south, Mindanao. Asean is well aware of the fact as is Japan.  

 

The radical foreign relations commotion suddenly charging out from the president's palace and shocking the region is the work of one guy, Duterte. He's surrounded himself with a small cabal of a half dozen "advisers" who have seized state and government power over the Phils and are working their own personal foreign relations ideology (and bank accounts).

 

Duterte finally talked former Pres. Fidel Ramos into becoming Duterte's special envoy to Beijing to negotiate a South China Sea solution but that has gone bust. Ramos had been the commander of the Phils armed forces who refused orders from then Pres. Fernando Marcos to stop protesters in the streets who were the vanguard of the People's Movement that drove Marcos out of the country. Ramos while president of the Phils had excellent relations with CCP in Beijing while further developing relations with the USA. 

 

The question does of course answer itself....

 

Will Ramos criticism trigger defections

October 20, 2016

 

Fidel V. Ramos has fired a broadside at President Duterte and refused to join his entourage in his state visit to China. The former president and now special envoy to Beijing said Mr. Duterte was a “huge disappointment and letdown,” and that the administration was “losing badly” by giving priority to its war on drugs at the expense of issues like poverty, cost of living, foreign investments and jobs. 

 

Ramos listed focus areas that could have been “doable” if Mr. Duterte had “hit the ground running instead of being stuck in endless controversies over extrajudicial killings of drug suspects and his ability at using cuss words and insults instead of civilized language.”  

Read more: http://opinion.inquirer.net/98347/will-ramos-criticism-trigger-defections#ixzz4O3bfNiQk 

 

Duterte who has lifetime close ties to every anti-Manila armed insurgency in Mindanao and throughout the Phils' South, and his tiny cabal of like-minded "advisors" have no foreign policy mandate or support from the Phils people or the elites of the Phils. 

 

 

Defense secretary, Army Major-General Delfin Lorenzana said to the Senate that “the President has been issuing statements without consulting his Cabinet.”

 

Gen. Lorenzana had been Presidential Representative at the Phils embassy in Washington the past 14 years.

 

http://www.afr.com/news/world/asia/philippines-president-rodrigo-dutertes-flirting-with-beijing-is-disaster-for-the-us-20161020-gs7abm

Edited October 25, 2016 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[boomerangutang]

10 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

I don't see any "dictating and commanding" in Russel's comments. Seems you are reading too much into this.

Duterte's countrymen won't let him sever ties with the US.   Too much money at stake. His own words today were that he'd be killed by one of them if he tried to do this. Probably true.

 

I agree.  If Fils want to restrict what Duterte wants to do, they'll be compelled to protest.  As shown by the recent police van running down protesters, a protest in the Fils could quickly devolve to bloodshed.  Duterte is like staph infection.  Hard to eradicate, once it takes hold.

 

1 hour ago, bangkapi said:

He isn't following what the globalist shadow government demands. He cares about Filipinos.

He is causing the same type of "distress" as Brexit and Donald Trump.

 

I agree with your closing sentence, but not the other two.  If Duterte cares about Fils, he wouldn't be ordering them shot or thrown in crowded prisons without formal charges.  If he cared about Fils, he wouldn't be maneuvering to give Fil's territory to China.  

[JingerBen]

Duterte Harry's days are numbered.

The Empire likes its thugs obedient. This guy is anything but.

Furthermore, he has a visceral hatred of America and its appalling record of crimes in the Philippines during the early years of the 20th century.

The first attack on Duterte will be a negative and sustained media blitz with the objective of bringing about his downfall by the Filipinos themselves.

If that fails - as it probably will, due to his popularity - other means will be used to eliminate him.

[Strange]

8 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Duterte Harry's days are numbered.

The Empire likes its thugs obedient. This guy is anything but.

Furthermore, he has a visceral hatred of America and its appalling record of crimes in the Philippines during the early years of the 20th century.

The first attack on Duterte will be a negative and sustained media blitz with the objective of bringing about his downfall by the Filipinos themselves.

If that fails - as it probably will, due to his popularity - other means will be used to eliminate him.

 

Trash post clearly spoken by an america hater. 

 

The only thing we think about Duterte and the political turmoil going on is that its "Unfortunate" for the Filipinos. All about the money. 

[JingerBen]

1 minute ago, Strange said:

 

Trash post clearly spoken by an america hater. 

 

The only thing we think about Duterte and the political turmoil going on is that its "Unfortunate" for the Filipinos. All about the money. 

Have another Kool-Aid.

[Strange]

3 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Have another Kool-Aid.

 

Ill take 3, then bust you out for your BS. 

 

Seriously, how is anything Duterte is doing good for Filipinos? 

 

Stay objective and leave you US hatred out. 

Edited October 25, 2016 by Strange

[Publicus]

11 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Duterte Harry's days are numbered.

The Empire likes its thugs obedient. This guy is anything but.

Furthermore, he has a visceral hatred of America and its appalling record of crimes in the Philippines during the early years of the 20th century.

The first attack on Duterte will be a negative and sustained media blitz with the objective of bringing about his downfall by the Filipinos themselves.

If that fails - as it probably will, due to his popularity - other means will be used to eliminate him.

 

Nothing CCP Boyz in Beijing can do about the Philippino people taking the America hater Duterte to account. 

 

And CCP Boyz know it.

 

CCP are enjoying the moment but they too know what's coming, sooner or later. So CCP isn't getting too loud or too up front about it, in a large part because the Boyz of Beijing know they are extremely unpopular in the Phils and that USA remains hugely popular.

 

Duterte said nothing at all about any of this during the election campaign of the president. In the Phils a plurality wins and in a crowded field of five candidates Duterte won with only 38% of the total vote, most of it from Mindanao. He promised to attack drugs and crime. Conversely, Duterte said nothing about making the Phils a colony republic of the People's Republic of China.

 

(Sort of like the now defunct Union of Soviet Socialist Republics: This one here and now as a bizarre union of the PRChina tributary states of Asean.)

[nodomino]

There is no need to rely on news filtered through the hugely corrupt global media propaganda machine. Go to YouTube. Duterte is there explaining his positions and rationale in very easy to understand English.   Make your own decision.  You don't need the AP, CNN, MSNBC, or ANY explanation.  Also, try to become aware of narco- politics as it has been payed out by the western powers for almost two centuries.

[JingerBen]

3 minutes ago, nodomino said:

There is no need to rely on news filtered through the hugely corrupt global media propaganda machine. Go to YouTube. Duterte is there explaining his positions and rationale in very easy to understand English.   Make your own decision.  You don't need the AP, CNN, MSNBC, or ANY explanation.  Also, try to become aware of narco- politics as it has been payed out by the western powers for almost two centuries.

Agreed.

 Narco-politics started with the Opium Wars in China during the early 19th century.

[Strange]

2 minutes ago, nodomino said:

There is no need to rely on news filtered through the hugely corrupt global media propaganda machine. Go to YouTube. Duterte is there explaining his positions and rationale in very easy to understand English.   Make your own decision.  You don't need the AP, CNN, MSNBC, or ANY explanation.  Also, try to become aware of narco- politics as it has been payed out by the western powers for almost two centuries.

 

But thats the thing, Filipino locals think that we are slandering and defaming Duterte and his policy because we are "Believing the media"

 

Untrue. 

 

We got reporters on the ground in Phil looking and watching the corruption going on. The Pinoys believe Duterte. 

 

Its really unfortunate that Duterte is doing what he is doing, then justifying it by stating that its "Western Powers" portraying something its not. We are not misleading you guys. Its Duterte. 

[Publicus]

4 minutes ago, nodomino said:

There is no need to rely on news filtered through the hugely corrupt global media propaganda machine. Go to YouTube. Duterte is there explaining his positions and rationale in very easy to understand English.   Make your own decision.  You don't need the AP, CNN, MSNBC, or ANY explanation.  Also, try to become aware of narco- politics as it has been payed out by the western powers for almost two centuries.

 

Some people like Xinhua and Global Times too. These particular people consider the NYT and the Philippine MSM to be corrupted by democracy and, moreover, anti-fascist, so they don't like 'em. They Duterte in his own choice words and psychotic notions to be radically better.

[Strange]

2 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Agreed.

 Narco-politics started with the Opium Wars in China during the early 19th century.

 

So what? Kill them all? All the "bad" drug addicts? Never mind the fact that a vast majority of them are doing it because of the incredible amount of corruption and poverty going on? 

 

Seriously, Duterte is justifying the killing of thousands of drug addled countrymen who are a product of the corrupt, filthy government. 

[JingerBen]

6 minutes ago, Strange said:

18 minutes ago, nodomino said:

There is no need to rely on news filtered through the hugely corrupt global media propaganda machine. Go to YouTube. Duterte is there explaining his positions and rationale in very easy to understand English.   Make your own decision.  You don't need the AP, CNN, MSNBC, or ANY explanation.  Also, try to become aware of narco- politics as it has been payed out by the western powers for almost two centuries.

 

12 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Agreed.

 Narco-politics started with the Opium Wars in China during the early 19th century.

 

6 minutes ago, Strange said:

 

So what? Kill them all? All the "bad" drug addicts? Never mind the fact that a vast majority of them are doing it because of the incredible amount of corruption and poverty going on? 

 

Seriously, Duterte is justifying the killing of thousands of drug addled countrymen who are a product of the corrupt, filthy government. 

 

 

Your answer shows that you misunderstand the term narco-politics.

[Strange]

Just now, JingerBen said:

Your answer shows that you misunderstand the term narco-politics.

 

Seems like you are justifying it. 

 

The government is not "colluding" or "cooperating" with the drug trade at all. 

 

They are benefiting from the corruption and money involved. They are turning a blind eye. They are allowing it to happen. Now that its a "pandemic" and the politicians pockets are lined, and its hurting the "people", its OK to kill them all. 

 

Then they just get China (who is the polar opposite of catholic belief) to give them "Money" to "Rehabilitate" the people who are products of the society they built because that makes it "OK"

[Publicus]

Interestinger is that AsstSecState Russel did not follow diplomatic protocol to make a courtesy visit with Pres. Rodrigo Duterte. Normally a visiting senior foreign dignitary requests a courtesy visit when entering a country.

 

No one should be surprised given Duterte's crude open mouth policy from the sewer.

 

 Washington’s senior diplomat for East Asia-Pacific Daniel Russel arrives in Manila Monday, giving assurances the United States remains the Philippines’ ‘trusted’ ally but warns that growing concern about drug-related killings in the country is ‘bad for business.’ His visit follows President Rodrigo Duterte’s visit to China where the latter announced his country’s ‘separation’ from the United States and realignment with China. At left is Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia-Pacific, Kelly Magsamen who, with Russel also met with Philippine Defense Secretary Major-General Delfin Lorenzana. 

 

 http://thestandard.com.ph/news/headlines/219718/us-envoy-snubs-du30-airs-concerns.html 

[geriatrickid]

2 hours ago, bangkapi said:

He isn't following what the globalist shadow government demands. He cares about Filipinos.

He is causing the same type of "distress" as Brexit and Donald Trump.

 

Get real, and spare us the  undergraduate level polemics of the Jeremy Corbyn fan club.  He cares only about his own clan and his own political goals. He's been facilitating the extrajudicial murders of  alleged criminals and political opponents.  Human rights, civil liberties and due process mean nothing to this homicidal egomaniac.   He has selected the USA because it is an easy target, but you  conveniently overlook the fact that he has been condemned by the entire  civilised world with the EU, Canada and even Latin American countries calling him out for his criminal conduct.

 

This miserable wacko was in large part responsible for making his base of operations famous as the epicenter of HIV in Asia. Davao now wears the crown of the highest incidence of HIV. Do you know why? No condoms,  harrassment, poverty, lack of medical care and exploitation . All this happened while he was in charge.  If he loses the US funding for  infectious disease treatments, no one will replace it since China does not and has not funded medical care in any developing nation.

 

You make a fool of yourself when you try to compare Brexit or even Trump with this sick sociopath. The Brexit was all about a peaceful resolution of an issue. No one's civil liberties were  violated and no one was ordered to be killed by  those who contested the vote. As for Trump, he  may be a  loudmouth and a carnival huckster, but he hasn't advocated the  murder of his own citizens.

 

If the   tyrant thinks he doesn't need the USA, good for him. The USA  can  reintroduce trade tariffs and barriers and refuse to subsidize the Philippines defense. The next time  he has a natural disaster, he can  ask the Chinese to save his butt. The USA isn't alone in receiving the abuse as he has hit out at Australia, Canada and Japan too. However, bigmouth is a bit more restrained with Japan. Probably the close to $3billion USD he gets from Japan  is a factor.

 

I give him a year at best before he is arrested and charged with crimes against humanity or is assassinated.

[geriatrickid]

37 minutes ago, nodomino said:

There is no need to rely on news filtered through the hugely corrupt global media propaganda machine. Go to YouTube. Duterte is there explaining his positions and rationale in very easy to understand English.   Make your own decision.  You don't need the AP, CNN, MSNBC, or ANY explanation.  Also, try to become aware of narco- politics as it has been payed out by the western powers for almost two centuries.

 

In this case, the narco politics is a made in the Philippines crisis . The  drug traffickers and cartel are exclusively Philippino and there is no western involvement. One cannot take a piss in that backward corrupt violent country without paying off one of the ruling oligarchy and  security officals.

It's a cop out to blame the lacklustre reports of foreign media. The media isn't murdering people and the media isn't the entity that denies birth control to women and HIV infected people., and it isn't the media  that siphons off the foreign aid that has  kept the philippines alive for the past 50 years.  Best move of my career was to refuse a posting in Manila. Of the people  who took the jobs, everyone has  left after a 1-3 years, prefering the relative safety of any other SE Asian country.

[Pib]

I've asked a couple of my Filipino friends now living in the U.S. (and now also U.S. citizens) what they think about Duterte.  Their answer was basically, "he's crazy!"      

 

[boomerangutang]

US candidate for prez Jill Stein said it well in a recent town hall meeting sponsored by The Young Turks at a Youtube facility (an actual hall, not an internet site).  Speaking about drugs (I don't have the exact transcript) she sees it the way I see it:   Look at each drug for its particular effects.  Deal with psychosomatic drugs as a 'health issue' not as a means to throw people in prison or, in Duterte's, a way to gun people down as they're walking down a sidewalk.   Duterte has been accused of shooting and killing people, vigilante-style, and he's shown on video as admitting it.  How is that different than a mafia don shooting (or ordering others to shoot) people he doesn't like?  No difference.  One group talks tough, and carry loaded guns to shoot anyone they please.  The other group talks tough, and carry loaded guns to shoot anyone they please.  

 

As for the US connection:   The Fil people probably still like the US presence (and they sure like Uncle Sam spending money and hand-outs), but Duterte as prez can do whatever he likes.  Regular people can't stop him, any more than they can stop Duterete from ordering people shot/arrested on suspicion, or telling the US to leave and don't come back, or kissing up to the Chinese.    They let the croc in the house, now they're going to have to adjust to it.

[craigt3365]

4 hours ago, bangkapi said:

He isn't following what the globalist shadow government demands. He cares about Filipinos.

He is causing the same type of "distress" as Brexit and Donald Trump.

A bit different.  This guy is actually approving of the killing of potentially innocent civilians. Even durg dealers deserve due process of the law,  not vigilante street justice.

[elgordo38]

20 hours ago, LawrenceChee said:

I think the language of the diplomat is precisely what's pushing Duerte away

It's the same language used by the USA almost all of the time, dictating and commanding of what a sovereign country should do

No wonder they feel pissed that Duerte is taking without giving


The USA can keep it up or lose the advantage to the Chinese ...meanwhile the Philippines gets deals from both sides.

Intelligently played.




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You have to stir the kettle to get the broth to taste good. 

[chilli42]

It's inevitable that Asia will divide along the lines of pro-China and pro-US.  Sevral countries are already licking boots in China.  Nothing is free, both China and US demand compliant behaviour from those they support so it's a choice between bad and worse.  If Philippines wants to jump into the pro-China camp then god bless them.  Why does it matter?  As a nation the Philippines brings next to nothing to the party and is likely to drive Vietnam squarely into the pro-US alliance.

[Pib]

I think these two Bloomberg news articles regarding Duerte and his recent U.S. comments sums things well....a couple partial quotes from the article follow:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-23/the-u-s-can-stay-friends-with-the-philippines

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-24/after-ripping-america-in-china-duterte-visits-u-s-ally-japan

 

 

Quote

 

Nevertheless, the Philippines’ pivot contains more fury than substance. Duterte isn’t the first Asian leader to return from China with impressive promises of investment and cooperation; typically, only a fraction of that money gets spent. Duterte’s musings about saddling up with Russia as well as China -- “three of us against the world” -- wildly inflates his country’s global relevance. And if his charm offensive calms tensions in the South China Sea, that would suit the U.S. as well as anyone.

 

In reality, the U.S. still enjoys great support in the Philippines, from both the military and the public. More than three-fourths of Filipinos say they have “much trust” in America; less than one-fourth say the same about China. Already Duterte’s obsequious praise of the Xi Jinping regime has promptedgrumbling at home. The Filipino military has a history of coups -- and little interest in replacing American weapons, logistical support and training with Russian and Chinese technology.

And the U.S. has plenty of other points of influence. American commanders are no doubt already reminding their Filipino counterparts that a radical break in relations would have strategic consequences. Allies such as Japan -- the Philippines’ third-biggest trading partner after China and the U.S. -- can quietly reinforce the message. Meanwhile, the U.S. can and should calmly continue to deepen defense ties with Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia and other Southeast Asian countries.

 

 

 

 

Quote

 

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who has boosted ties with the U.S. to counter China, has sought to bolster the Philippines’s defense capabilities with more than $300 million in loans for patrol vessels. He may use the meeting as a chance to mend fences among nations that until recently shared a common goal to restrain China’s assertiveness in disputed seas.

"It’s a golden opportunity for the Japanese government to convince the Philippine president that continuing to do this will be bad for him," said Kunihiko Miyake, a former Japanese diplomat and now visiting professor at Ritsumeikan University. "He won’t listen to the Americans, but he might listen to the Japanese."

 

 

[Strange]

2 hours ago, redhorsebeer said:

Good. Distress is needed to expose the ugly truth of 'Murica. We love Murica for its movies, tv shows and many things, but puhleaasee, so much distress has been caused by Murica's relentless meddling with other countries.

 

Says the same poster who clearly demanded that the president of the United States should publicly apologize to Duterte and Muslim terrorists in the Filipino south. 

What exactly have we done to you? Its unbelievable that some of you guys are blaming us for your problems and want to sell out your country to a communist country that had a 1 child policy. Its not very Catholic.