rooster59 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 We want our sea back! Fishermen mad after hotel uses Pattaya seaside to build swimming pool Image: Sanook PATTAYA: Fishermen in Pattaya are furious that a hotel in the Jomtien area has built a swimming pool jutting out into the sea. The area of rocks is a popular site for fishing but now it is just a luxury pool for the guests of a beachfront hotel, said sanook.com. And it now looks as the pool will have to be removed after the harbor authority inspected and reported the matter to the Pattaya police. The offending pool has been brazenly constructed out into the sea in the Yin Yorm beach area of Pratumnak Hill Soi 5. Fishermen originally complained to reporters about the pool but Thai Rath has discovered that the Region 6 harbor authority in Pattaya has already been on the case. Their director Ekarat Khantaro said that his group checked the spot last Sunday and in his opinion it is an illegal construction. Pattaya police were informed so that the matter could be taken to court and the hotel ordered to remove it. Sources: Sanook & Thairath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-11-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 some people will bitch about anything…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Where were the authorities when the pool wa sunder construction? these things don't just pop up overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 19 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Where were the authorities when the pool wa sunder construction? these things don't just pop up overnight. The "authorities" were at the end of a handoff of baht. This is illegal. This is the King's property. Now that the word is out, I expect it will be demolished. Som nom na Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Where were the authorities when the pool wa sunder construction? these things don't just pop up overnight. Spending their backhanders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigpoint Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 It's been there 5 years to my knowledge, and I suspect many years before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobsworth Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) yes that is a funny sort of place. it is a private house but used as a hotel with tour groups staying there, i sneaked in there once with my girlfriend and the permission of the group leader. it is beautiful and well built. german i think. it should be allowed to remain. on reading this article i was much more worried that somebody had encroached onto the area next to it which is popular with fisherman and includes rock pools with stranded fish in them. the one i rescued was a puffer fish i think. it is this pool and some rocks next to it that stops you from walking all the way along the beach from jomtien to pattaya. it reminds me of how brighton marina used to look before the construction of ugly houses. Edited November 19, 2016 by jobsworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joskeshake Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 i will go the same as walking Street i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 4 hours ago, geriatrickid said: Where were the authorities when the pool wa sunder construction? these things don't just pop up overnight. Banking the contents of their brown envelopes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, jobsworth said: yes that is a funny sort of place. it is a private house but used as a hotel with tour groups staying there, i sneaked in there once with my girlfriend and the permission of the group leader. it is beautiful and well built. german i think. it should be allowed to remain. on reading this article i was much more worried that somebody had encroached onto the area next to it which is popular with fisherman and includes rock pools with stranded fish in them. the one i rescued was a puffer fish i think. it is this pool and some rocks next to it that stops you from walking all the way along the beach from jomtien to pattaya. it reminds me of how brighton marina used to look before the construction of ugly houses. Agree that it would be very difficult to rip it out and to return to the way it was. Should be taken over by the city for public use with no compensation for the hotel. Edited November 19, 2016 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The article says the matter can be taken to court. Just what court are they talking about? The tennis court? Look at the Bali Hi pier parking lot push out. Wasn't that run by the military? I don't recall any mention of a civilian court or law being invoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 19 minutes ago, joskeshake said: i will go the same as walking Street i think Yes still there in 20 years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merylhighground Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 I think you/the editor of the article mean 'Anglers' not 'fishermen'.....a world of difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Make the hotel demolish the pool and repair the shore front to as close as possible as original, no matter how much money it takes. Maximum time to do, 3 months. If a local authority had given permission for the pool a term of jail is called for. If the area is the King's Land then charge the hotel owner and their local authority "backers" with les majeste because this corruption is an insult to the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjaidee Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Merylhighground said: I think you/the editor of the article mean 'Anglers' not 'fishermen'.....a world of difference... A fisherman being a professional and an angler a hobbyist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger1951 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 He who dares wins ! . It does certainly seem like possession is 9/10 of the law. After appeals and retro planning permission etc etc it will probably be there till it decomposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, lvr181 said: Make the hotel demolish the pool and repair the shore front to as close as possible as original, no matter how much money it takes. Maximum time to do, 3 months. If a local authority had given permission for the pool a term of jail is called for. If the area is the King's Land then charge the hotel owner and their local authority "backers" with les majeste because this corruption is an insult to the King. How about 1000 baht fine and a promotion to the next level of incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Been there for years. And one comment is correct, it stops you walking all around the foreshore.Sent from my SM-J700F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayalover Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 been there and I think I have the freedom to walk along the beach that is now impossible unless trespassing. I remind you that the law is clear, we must have free access and walk to&along the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bberrythailand Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 As if fishermen were following the law... Really, people should wonder about themselves before complaining about others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 I hope they teardown the hotel and keep the pool. Less pollution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 From personal experience even rearranging the ocean floor off the beach is off limits. Something this visible will not stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 3 hours ago, lvr181 said: Make the hotel demolish the pool and repair the shore front to as close as possible as original, no matter how much money it takes. Maximum time to do, 3 months. If a local authority had given permission for the pool a term of jail is called for. If the area is the King's Land then charge the hotel owner and their local authority "backers" with les majeste because this corruption is an insult to the King. What a dreamer you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 10 hours ago, geriatrickid said: Where were the authorities when the pool wa sunder construction? these things don't just pop up overnight. Two weekend nights then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Excuse me, but the pool was constructed 21 years ago...! The guy was popped because he was renting rooms by the day instead of the month as the permit states. Try doing some research folks...You can start with BP...Half the story is missing here....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 8 hours ago, trigpoint said: It's been there 5 years to my knowledge, and I suspect many years before that. It was built 21 years ago...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, fish monger said: It was built 21 years ago...! 21 years later, there's a government in power that may actually do something about the illegal encroachment. And operating an illegal hotel, it seems. Edited November 19, 2016 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Big Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 T 39 minutes ago, fish monger said: Excuse me, but the pool was constructed 21 years ago...! The guy was popped because he was renting rooms by the day instead of the month as the permit states. Try doing some research folks...You can start with BP...Half the story is missing here....! thank you fish monger! The whole article is a load of rubbish. This part of the seaside is completely inaccessible.. Try to prosecute the guys who approved it or turned a blind eye some 20 years ago. I want to see the fisherman who made this rediculous statement. Sure it is not really legal, but then legalize it and let the people live. A huge fat fine would be in order for the illegal use. However those guys in power at the time should also pay back. CRIME SHOULD NOT PAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commogwinto Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 It's taken the "Fishermen" over 20 years to realise that particular section of beach is no longer there? must be night fishermen if they haven't seen it before now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Commogwinto said: It's taken the "Fishermen" over 20 years to realise that particular section of beach is no longer there? must be night fishermen if they haven't seen it before now? more than likely, to me, is that the anglers have been fishing from the rocks for most of the past 21 years, but, only recently they have been blocked by (rock?) baton-wielding thug guards (retired ex-100 baht parking inspectors) the pool needs a few pufferfish, and maybe a shark tossed in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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