The anti-Trump resistance takes shape: 'Government's supposed to fear us'

[iReason]

Trump considering limiting press briefings: report

 

"President Trump is reportedly considering making some changes to the White House press briefing schedule."

 

"The president is thinking about decreasing the number of press briefings to once a week, The New York Times reported Tuesday."

 

"He is also considering requesting that reporters submit written questions, according to The Times."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338708-trump-considering-limiting-press-briefings-report

[iReason]

‘I’m Right Here!’ Sean Spicer Says While Toiling to Find Successor

 

“Donald Trump might as well get behind the podium himself, as the press coverage is the part of his presidency he cares the most deeply about,” said Tim Miller, who was communications director for Jeb Bush’s 2016 presidential campaign."

 

“You can’t be a credible press secretary when your boss makes you tell preposterous lies."

 

"You can’t be a credible press secretary when you don’t know what your boss thinks on key issues because  he changes his mind depending on the last person he talked to.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/us/politics/im-right-here-sean-spicer-says-while-toiling-to-find-successor.html

 

 

[dutchisaan]

11 minutes ago, iReason said:

Trump considering limiting press briefings: report

 

"President Trump is reportedly considering making some changes to the White House press briefing schedule."

 

"The president is thinking about decreasing the number of press briefings to once a week, The New York Times reported Tuesday."

 

"He is also considering requesting that reporters submit written questions, according to The Times."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338708-trump-considering-limiting-press-briefings-report

Secrets and lies from the WH, series 1, episode 152

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

Ops sorry missed South Carolina election. 

 

What?  Republicans win again???

 

ouch 4 for 4!

 

resist away but we ain't buyin!

Wins in 4 long time Republican districts, by much narrower margins than past elections.

 

I wonder how a special election on Trump's home turf, New York City, would turn out.

[zydeco]

27 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

I'd bet the republicans spent at least 40 million also.

 

Ossoff outspent Handel by 7 to 1.

[craigt3365]

3 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Ossoff outspent Handel by 7 to 1.

I'm not seeing 7 to 1, but Ossoff definitely was the big spender.  I'm having a hard time adding up all the numbers!

 

https://www.issueone.org/money-behind-expensive-u-s-house-race-history/

 

I'm coming up with her spending about 17 million out of the 60 or so total?????  About 30% to his 70%????

[wprime]

On 11/21/2016 at 7:51 AM, ehs818 said:

The majority of the electorate did not vote for Trump. In fact almost 75% of eligible voters did not vote for Trump.=

Technically true but misleading. about 75% of eligible voters did not vote for Clinton either.

[Rob13]

16 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Wins in 4 long time Republican districts, by much narrower margins than past elections.

 

 

Gonna make for an interesting 2018 election. GOP is losing ground. 

[mogandave]

And it wasn't even close. A bad bland Republican candidate beat the Democrat's superstar by more than five percent.

I think we have Trump AND Putin to thank for the phony results!

[JetsetBkk]

10 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

I'm not seeing 7 to 1, but Ossoff definitely was the big spender.  I'm having a hard time adding up all the numbers!

 

https://www.issueone.org/money-behind-expensive-u-s-house-race-history/

 

I'm coming up with her spending about 17 million out of the 60 or so total?????  About 30% to his 70%????

If you're "not seeing 7 to 1", you should try looking harder.

 

"The analysis shows Ossoff laid out $14.2 million on ad time and spent at least another $8 million on other costs. Handel spent $2.5 million on TV, radio and cable spots and had at least $1 million in other expenses. "

 

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/19/the-race-for-georgias-6th-district-now-costs-more-than-50m/

 

"$23.9 million is the amount Democrat Jon Ossoff raised for his campaign...

$4.8 million is the amount Republican Karen Handel raised for her campaign..."

 

https://www.issueone.org/money-behind-expensive-u-s-house-race-history/

 

On a lighter note...

 

Reminds me of some faces a few months ago...

 

  

 

 

 

 

[Rob13]

7 minutes ago, JetsetBkk said:

Handel spent $2.5 million on TV, radio and cable spots and had at least $1 million in other expenses

 

You missed a few numbers.

 

 

Quote

e National Republican Congressional Committee shelled out more than $6.7 million on ads in the race. And the Congressional Leadership Fund – a super PAC with ties to Speaker Paul Ryan – spent about $5 million on airtime. The group said it spent another $2 million on other costs, including a field operation aiming to target 300,000 voters by Tuesday.

Two other conservative groups – America First Policies and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce – each chipped in at least $1 million more.

 

...Looks like Ossoff spent more but no where near the 7 to 1 estimate

Edited June 21, 2017 by Rob13

[Morch]

13 hours ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

Only thing I am deflecting is your bs

 

subjust is resisting Trump. 

 

My point is people respectful would do what I did. We lost the vote in 2008 and 2012 and wished for the best. 

 

None of this resistance nonsense 

 

sounds like authoritarianism. I disagree with you so I am "deflecting "

 

You may have wished the best, been respectful and all the rest. Trump was busy with the birther nonsense. Kinda Trumps appeals for respect and acceptance.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

And even with this, to help remind Trump supporters of how bad he duped them, they still support him.  Some 36%.  Absolutely incredible.

 

Very interesting article to read.  Not good.  And I'd guess it may not be that much different in other countries around the world.

 

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/15/is-america-dangerously-divided/comment-page-6/

 

 

The net:

 

We see that here in this thread from the Trump supporters.  No compromise.  Just the fact he beat Hillary.

 

Do you find a whole lot of compromise in the posts of some of our high-spirited anti-Trump members? Bringing up links about political divisions, polarization and partisanship, then immediately pointing fingers could be amusing, if it was depressing.  

[iReason]

33 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

 

Gonna make for an interesting 2018 election. GOP is losing ground. 

 

Yes. Greatly illustrated in these two races:

 

Given the fact that in the prior Georgia election of 2016, Rep. Tom Price won by 24%

Compared to the current Republican win by only 5%

 

And the Rep. Mulvaney win in South Carolina of 2016 by 21%

Compared to the current Republican win by Ralph Norman by only 4%

 

Both, barely sqeaked by.

 

Clearly, the writing is on the wall...  

[Rob13]

47 minutes ago, JetsetBkk said:

"$23.9 million is the amount Democrat Jon Ossoff raised for his campaign...

$4.8 million is the amount Republican Karen Handel raised for her campaign..."

 

Seems the incumbent was having fund raising problems.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

Seems the incumbent was having fund raising problems.

There was no incumbent running. 

[Rob13]

incumbent party.

[Jingthing]

Not going to try to put lipstick on this pig.

The Georgia contest was nationalized and trump won.

It doesn't in any way mean the resistance is going to go away. 

It also doesn't mean that the democrats still don't have hope of turning the house in 18 in LESS RED districts than Geogia's 6th.

But it does mean trump is likely to have the power to continue to do more damage.

He'll probably get "trumpcare" through and it will be garbage. Etc.

 

Quote

 

It's Trump's Party Now

The Republican triumph in an affluent, educated Georgia congressional district showed GOP voters standing by their president.

...

But a big win is not the same thing as good news. The special elections of May and June 2017 offered Republicans a last chance for a course correction before the 2018 election cycle starts in earnest. A loss in Georgia would have sent a message of caution. The victory discredits that argument, and empowers those who want Trumpism without restraint, starting with the president himself.

 

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/its-trumps-party-now/531066/

 

 

 

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not going to try to put lipstick on this pig.

The Georgia contest was nationalized and trump won.

It doesn't in any way mean the resistance is going to go away. 

It also doesn't mean that the democrats still don't have hope of turning the house in 18 in LESS RED districts than Geogia's 6th.

But it does mean trump is likely to have the power to continue to do more damage.

He'll probably get "trumpcare" through and it will be garbage. Etc.

 

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/its-trumps-party-now/531066/

 

 

 

 

"It's Trump's Party Now"

 

How did that Lesley Gore tune go?....

 

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, mesquite said:

Threat of impeachment is slip sliding away...

I'd agree it is down.

Impeachment is both legal and political. 

There would have be a horrendous smoking gun for the republicans to impeach their own party's president before 18.

trump will be emboldened now to do outrageous things to block the investigations and he'll assume he can get away with it.

But this is not the final word on whether the democrats can take the house in 18.

 

[funandsuninbangkok]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'd agree it is down.

Impeachment is both legal and political. 

There would have be a horrendous smoking gun for the republicans to impeach their own party's president before 18.

trump will be emboldened now to do outrageous things to block the investigations and he'll assume he can get away with it.

But this is not the final word on whether the democrats can take the house in 18.

 

Democrats can take the house only if they win. Four out of four losses now. 

 

And dont forget about senate. Dems fave 25 seats up for grabs vs 8 for republicans. Looking grim for them

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2018

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, funandsuninbangkok said:

Democrats can take the house only if they win. Four out of four losses now. 

 

And dont forget about senate. Dems fave 25 seats up for grabs vs 8 for republicans. Looking grim for them

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2018

 

 

They were all heavily red districts where any democrat winning would be a huge upset.

Let's wait till 18 for the final word on 18, shall we? 

You've had your gloating time. This thread is about the anti-trump resistance which yes, did suffer a setback, but it is not going away.

[iReason]

Lowy survey paints depressing picture of national mood and it’s got a lot to do with Trump

WE Australians may look like a cheerful bunch, but underneath there are some negative sentiments brewing. (sub-title)

 

"A major annual survey on our views and attitudes found that most of us — 79 per cent —

are dissatisfied with the direction in which the world is going."

 

"So why are Aussies so unhappy?"

 

"It has a lot to do with Donald Trump,

with trust in US falling and the President rated as the number one cause for having an unfavourable view of America."

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/lowy-survey-paints-depressing-picture-of-national-mood-and-its-got-a-lot-to-do-with-trump/news-story/d1e464e3b1f22291936cd64e7ed8383a

[mesquite]

Just now, iReason said:

Lowy survey paints depressing picture of national mood and it’s got a lot to do with Trump

WE Australians may look like a cheerful bunch, but underneath there are some negative sentiments brewing. (sub-title)

 

"A major annual survey on our views and attitudes found that most of us — 79 per cent —

are dissatisfied with the direction in which the world is going."

 

"So why are Aussies so unhappy?"

 

"It has a lot to do with Donald Trump,

with trust in US falling and the President rated as the number one cause for having an unfavourable view of America."

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/lowy-survey-paints-depressing-picture-of-national-mood-and-its-got-a-lot-to-do-with-trump/news-story/d1e464e3b1f22291936cd64e7ed8383a

I concede that Trump will not get the Aussie vote.

[iReason]

What is it that the Trump administration doesn’t want us to see?

 

"Such pathetic, undemocratic cowardice is part of a disturbing trend."

 

"Increasingly, politicians are weaponizing public anger at the media to justify operating in the shadows, 

Democracy is dying in that darkness."

 

"We cannot and must not accept it becoming the new normal."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2017/06/20/what-is-it-that-the-trump-administration-doesnt-want-us-to-see/?utm_term=.8db7d619f190

 

 

Edited June 21, 2017 by iReason

[craigt3365]

3 hours ago, JetsetBkk said:

If you're "not seeing 7 to 1", you should try looking harder.

 

"The analysis shows Ossoff laid out $14.2 million on ad time and spent at least another $8 million on other costs. Handel spent $2.5 million on TV, radio and cable spots and had at least $1 million in other expenses. "

 

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/19/the-race-for-georgias-6th-district-now-costs-more-than-50m/

 

"$23.9 million is the amount Democrat Jon Ossoff raised for his campaign...

$4.8 million is the amount Republican Karen Handel raised for her campaign..."

 

https://www.issueone.org/money-behind-expensive-u-s-house-race-history/

 

On a lighter note...

 

 

  

 

OK.  But your numbers don't match up with my link.  Showing ALL the funding from ALL the various sources. 

[craigt3365]

3 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Do you find a whole lot of compromise in the posts of some of our high-spirited anti-Trump members? Bringing up links about political divisions, polarization and partisanship, then immediately pointing fingers could be amusing, if it was depressing.  

I do find it interesting in this thread the "anti-Trump" crowd uses facts and links to reliable news sources.  The "pro-Trump" crowd sticks to fringe websites and statements that he won and was better than Hillary and Obama.  I rarely see credible links from them nor viable analysis of current events.  All normally followed by a silly emoticon. Like this:

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I'd agree it is down.

Impeachment is both legal and political. 

There would have be a horrendous smoking gun for the republicans to impeach their own party's president before 18.

trump will be emboldened now to do outrageous things to block the investigations and he'll assume he can get away with it.

But this is not the final word on whether the democrats can take the house in 18.

 

I don't see impeachment unless he is charged with obstruction of justice.  Even then, it will be hard.  We'll continue to have ZERO progress by the government.  Stymied by a poor president and a polarized political system.  Change is desperately needed.  All around.

[Morch]

18 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

I do find it interesting in this thread the "anti-Trump" crowd uses facts and links to reliable news sources.  The "pro-Trump" crowd sticks to fringe websites and statements that he won and was better than Hillary and Obama.  I rarely see credible links from them nor viable analysis of current events.  All normally followed by a silly emoticon. Like this:

 

My comment wasn't limited to this topic, but a general observation. Kinda hard reconciling the rhetoric some anti-Trump posters are taking with calling Trump stuff like "The Divider". As for the above, be that as it may - that's not exactly the point (even if I agreed that all anti-Trump links provided are solid, which I don't).

[craigt3365]

Interesting:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/21/politics/democrats-georgia-elections-analysis/index.html

Quote

 

The party got closer than it has in decades to winning some of the four seats -- a sign they've closed their gaps with Republicans in both suburban and rural areas and in 2018 will have a broad playing field with dozens of more competitive districts.

 

"We have to remember that these elections are being held in districts hand-picked by Trump -- districts where he created vacancies because he thought they were 'can't lose' seats," said Ron Klain, a Democratic operative who was chief of staff to vice presidents Joe Biden and Al Gore.