rooster59 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 After just one successful trip PM gives stamp of approval to Pattaya-Hua Hin ferry Image: Manager With just one successful test trip completed by the new Pattaya to Hua Hin ferry the prime minister has given his stamp of approval. Speaking through his spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnert yesterday Prayut Chan-ocha congratulated those concerned for getting the service running. He urged concerned ministries such as communications and tourism to promote the services and ensure its future success. He referred to it as a new convenience for the travelling public that would serve both the Thai public and tourists alike. Sansern said the government hopes that the ferry will help generate four billion baht's worth of development in the areas around the Bali Hai pier in Pattaya and its counterpart Saphan Pla where the ferry docks in Hua Hin. Sansern said that after delays due to bad weather the ferry set off on Thursday for Hua Hin with 198 on board and completed the journey in two and a half hours. This, he said, represented half the time of a normal road journey between the eastern and western resorts. Source: Manager -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-01-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 So the big question is who owns the Royal Passenger Liner Co ltd? Can't find any information on the web. A mystery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The BKP stated that a Navy frigate escorted the ferry on its first outing. I presume therefore that the owner is presumably connected to the Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, smutcakes said: The BKP stated that a Navy frigate escorted the ferry on its first outing. I presume therefore that the owner is presumably connected to the Navy. So the company is not a private venture but a national transport company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, smutcakes said: The BKP stated that a Navy frigate escorted the ferry on its first outing. I presume therefore that the owner is presumably connected to the Navy. Expect that was to ensure the first voyage went safely....would have been bad press to the Nth degree if the ferry had an accident on the first voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 "Sansern said that after delays due to bad weather the ferry set off on Thursday for Hua Hin with 198 on board and completed the journey in two and a half hours. This, he said, represented half the time of a normal road journey between the eastern and western resorts" so it took 50% longer than advertised and this is a success? i suppose it arrived.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 lets see how big of a success it is after the "free" period.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seligne2 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 It is not a serious transport option yet. It is an amusement park ride, seas willing. Wait a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Share Holder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 does anyone have a google map location of the dock location in hua hin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 26 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: does anyone have a google map location of the dock location in hua hin? Easiest place to find. Know where all the fish restaurants are, especially Chao Lay? The only road that goes there is Nares Damri and you don't want to go on that narrow road because there is no parking to be found. There is construction at the pier. Anyway, take soi 55 down to the water and hang a left. I was there 3 days ago.It's a congested mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 41 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Easiest place to find. Know where all the fish restaurants are, especially Chao Lay? The only road that goes there is Nares Damri and you don't want to go on that narrow road because there is no parking to be found. There is construction at the pier. Anyway, take soi 55 down to the water and hang a left. I was there 3 days ago.It's a congested mess. Thanks for this info. Thank god it's a left turn and not a right past all the ladyboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Pib said: Expect that was to ensure the first voyage went safely....would have been bad press to the Nth degree if the ferry had an accident on the first voyage. Possibly but i am not quite so sure you, i or Somtam Somchai would be given the same treatment. I am nor quite sure why the Taxpayer should be footing that bill. My guess remains unchanged that the faces behind the venture are Navy or proxies of them. I dont see the army escorting new bus companies down the road when your chances of death are far higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The man from udon Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What's the big deal here.it a boat that's ok for a lake.for Christs sake you think they had launched the titanic.whens the high speed train coming between bkk and north bkk and back.pathetic muppets.next news item will be shoe shine opens up in mbk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, smutcakes said: Possibly but i am not quite so sure you, i or Somtam Somchai would be given the same treatment. I am nor quite sure why the Taxpayer should be footing that bill. My guess remains unchanged that the faces behind the venture are Navy or proxies of them. I dont see the army escorting new bus companies down the road when your chances of death are far higher. A presumption apparently based on ignorance, bias and BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Well, if the PM approves and it is good enough for him, then it is..........nah, will not risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 7 hours ago, smutcakes said: Possibly but i am not quite so sure you, i or Somtam Somchai would be given the same treatment. I am nor quite sure why the Taxpayer should be footing that bill. My guess remains unchanged that the faces behind the venture are Navy or proxies of them. I dont see the army escorting new bus companies down the road when your chances of death are far higher. I belioeve Pib has a valid point. The Thais also wanted to ensure they had their emergency response in order. The escort was to demonstrate the government's being on the job and taking safety seriously. This is a Chinese built vessel operated by Thais. Rest assured something will go wrong shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 If the government were interested in 'taking safety seriously' why is the death rate continuing to rise every New Year?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 10 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: "Sansern said that after delays due to bad weather the ferry set off on Thursday for Hua Hin with 198 on board and completed the journey in two and a half hours. This, he said, represented half the time of a normal road journey between the eastern and western resorts" so it took 50% longer than advertised and this is a success? i suppose it arrived.. Look on the bright side, 198 people didn't have to ride in passenger vans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, BigBadGeordie said: Well, if the PM approves and it is good enough for him, then it is..........nah, will not risk it. The Thai Army / Navy test equipment don't they ? The Thai people will just have to rely on his genius and steady hand. It might be okay, but it will be too expensive for the average Thai. A larger vessel with car and freight carrying capacity might have been cheaper. Wonder what sort of business plan was drawn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 11 hours ago, Wilsonandson said: So the big question is who owns the Royal Passenger Liner Co ltd? Can't find any information on the web. A mystery! Surely the first word of the company's name is not significant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, yellowboat said: The Thai Army / Navy test equipment don't they ? The Thai people will just have to rely on his genius and steady hand. It might be okay, but it will be too expensive for the average Thai. A larger vessel with car and freight carrying capacity might have been cheaper. Wonder what sort of business plan was drawn up. "Wonder what sort of business plan was drawn up. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 9 hours ago, geriatrickid said: Easiest place to find. Know where all the fish restaurants are, especially Chao Lay? The only road that goes there is Nares Damri and you don't want to go on that narrow road because there is no parking to be found. There is construction at the pier. Anyway, take soi 55 down to the water and hang a left. I was there 3 days ago.It's a congested mess. Did you see the ferry moored there? No, you did not because it docks at Saphan Pla pier, which is located in Kao Takiab, approx. 8 km south of Hua Hin's city centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompelli Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, geriatrickid said: I belioeve Pib has a valid point. The Thais also wanted to ensure they had their emergency response in order. The escort was to demonstrate the government's being on the job and taking safety seriously. This is a Chinese built vessel operated by Thais. Rest assured something will go wrong shortly. The boat isn't Chinese built. Builders were Wavemaster International Pty Ltd & as far as I can see they went into liquidation in Nov 2012. The boat was the built in 1991 & named WU YI HU. It was run by Chu Kong Passenger Transport Co., Ltd. They had 3 of this type of vessel & operate around 50 ferries. My concern would be the responsibility for safety - very happy that the harbour master didn't let the ferry sail when it wasn't safe to do so. Shouldn't it have been the master's decision, or at the very least the operating company? At some point in time the commercial aspects of running (or not) the ferry are going to ramp up - who's going to be responsible then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I wonder if the ferry meets the "Rules and Regulations for the Classification of Naval Ships" by Lloyds, and also has a proper insurance for its passengers and their belongings. If this is the case, I would try that ferry too one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 9 hours ago, smutcakes said: Possibly but i am not quite so sure you, i or Somtam Somchai would be given the same treatment. I am nor quite sure why the Taxpayer should be footing that bill. My guess remains unchanged that the faces behind the venture are Navy or proxies of them. I dont see the army escorting new bus companies down the road when your chances of death are far higher. Maybe your right.. maybe not.. but it seems logical to me to escort the ferry on its first few times by a frigate. It is good for tourism, however the navy charging the operator would be good. Though back home the police for instance does not charge soccer clubs for extra officers during events. So the reasoning you have is not 100% good.. sometimes for the greater good the government pays things. I am not sure your argument has some merit but on the other hand it could easily be explained by the reasons I have just given. Plus of course neither of us is aware if money has changed hands for the escort. Can't be sure it did not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, tompelli said: The boat isn't Chinese built. Builders were Wavemaster International Pty Ltd & as far as I can see they went into liquidation in Nov 2012. The boat was the built in 1991 & named WU YI HU. It was run by Chu Kong Passenger Transport Co., Ltd. They had 3 of this type of vessel & operate around 50 ferries. My concern would be the responsibility for safety - very happy that the harbour master didn't let the ferry sail when it wasn't safe to do so. Shouldn't it have been the master's decision, or at the very least the operating company? At some point in time the commercial aspects of running (or not) the ferry are going to ramp up - who's going to be responsible then? Thanks for finding the details, I wasn't able to. When I saw it I knew it was old. The prime consideration for anyone using this service should be safety. It would be great if someone who is a maritime enthusiast, or has professional experience, took a trip and posted their opinion. Edited January 7, 2017 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, ratcatcher said: Surely the first word of the company's name is not significant? Good point......can the word "royal" be used ..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Wilsonandson said: So the big question is who owns the Royal Passenger Liner Co ltd? Can't find any information on the web. A mystery! New company formed in 2016 reg in Chonburi. Probably owned by one of the Pattaya godfathers with office behind a Naklua noodle shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Another speedy,flattering comment by our beloved leader to his country. Although i cant help comparing it with the other one.Marry in haste,repent at leisure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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