IAMHERE Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, mick220675 said: He will face impeachment within a two years of taking office probably due to a historical sex offence, he has to many skeletons in his closet. The establishment must maintain control. No doubt you are right about facing impeachment; but can he be impeached on an offense he committed before coming to office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Silurian said: And Trump Con Artist returns 8,810,000 results And Trump Russia Connection returns 20,200,000 results Your point? Good illustrations. Here's another one with less results but with as much meaning: Trump Orangutan returns 477,000 results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I would usually just dismiss this as fake news and I am a bit suspicious of it. However Trump does have a pretty despicable record and anything is possible with this moron. Either way this is unprecedented for an incoming POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Lets say the Russians do have compromising information, which I am 100% sure they do, as one of the jobs of any intelligence agency is to gather such info on Senior Politicians, wannabe politicians etc even so far as purposely setting up such people (with sex workers for example with full bladders), then they have a couple options with Trump. 1) Leave him and his team sweating and try and force the administration to lean towards favourable outcomes for Russia otherwise a release of possible embarrassing or incriminating evidence. 2) They realise he will be impeached soon so he is of no use to them so they release any compromising info in the next few days before the inauguration. Item 2 would sow absolute havoc with the US political system and result in a great deal of trauma for the USA. Russia could just sit back and laugh, watch the show and get ready to do the same thing (but different) on whoever does actually take the throne that Trump would never claim. Putin is personally worth billions, he is not interested in the money he could make from Trump, I am sure he would love nothing more than to publicly break and humiliate Trump. It is the best way of hurting America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 10 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Wow, this is a super-sanitized version of what's been revealed! C'mon, it's well-known now that they have videos of Russian sex workers pissing on him! Pees-ful transition. Been there, got the baseball cap: "Make America No. 1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany? 13:48 - 11 Janv 2017 Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING! 13:31 - 11 Janv 2017 Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT! 02:19 - 11 Janv 2017 Edited January 11, 2017 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Sounds like Trump is a Goldwater Republican ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silurian Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Here is a pretty good commentary on the report and possible repercussions. The bombshell report that Russia can blackmail Trump, explained http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/11/bombshell-report-that-russia-can-blackmail-trump-explained-commentary.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Opl said: Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany? 13:48 - 11 Janv 2017 Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING! 13:31 - 11 Janv 2017 Yeah, that's why he won't release his tax returns because there are NO CONNECTIONS to Russian Mobsters. Right. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silurian Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Opl said: Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING! 13:31 - 11 Janv 2017 No Deals...No Loans? The Fraudulent POTUS-elect seems to have a selective memory. Inside Trump’s financial ties to Russia and his unusual flattery of Vladimir Putin https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html? “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silurian Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This "Russian Connection" issue has been going on for quite some time. According to a former intelligence officer who started investigating last June, "there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit." This isn't just some pop-up, flash-in-the-pan news story. A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Is this the new " Can we see your birth certificate" item for the next few years ? Must say that the US elections are a good source for entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I think it was recognised that the Russians would p*ss all over him, wasn't quite how I expected it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 PeeOTUS Elect is due to give his first major Press conference within minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 So in the ongoing Trump conference call Trump just said the USA intelligence agencies may have leaked the reports of the compromising information that the Russians have. !!!! Just WOW! One of the press should ask what calibre of round would he prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, howto said: SO, this is totally fabricated, by an un-named source, nothing verified and this has been out there for months. What is wrong with you people? And not one complaint from you about Clinton running a child killing pedophile network out of a Pizza Shop in New York? Not only Fake news but Tweeted about by members of his Administration as real news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Don't matter now if it's true or not not, it's going to stick. Just ask Richard Gere about the gerbil rumor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, zorro1 said: Don't matter now if it's true or not not, it's going to stick. Just ask Richard Gere about the gerbil rumor Or Hillary Clinton about the dementia rumor. Which Trump helped to spread. Instant Karma, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Andaman Al said: And not one complaint from you about Clinton running a child killing pedophile network out of a Pizza Shop in New York? Why would anyone even address something so silly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: Why would anyone even address something so silly? Michael Flynn, Trump's prospective national security adviser addressed that issue. He thought people should examine the issue with an open mind. And this is the guy Trump is going to depend on to evaluate intelligence reports. Not scary at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawan Dok Krating Daeng Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, howto said: You, the anti-Trump circle-jerk crowd, have been had with this incredible 'Fake News' piece. Shame on you TVF for posting this crap. So check out these, (NOTE: Buzzfeed is NBCBuzzfeed) These Reports Allege Trump Has Deep Ties To Russia https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia the full transcript (floating around for several months) here DOCS POSTED BY NBCBuzzfeedhttps://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html Buzzfeed’s Trump report takes ‘fake news’ to a new level http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/buzzfeeds-trump-report-takes-fake-news-to-a-new-level/ BuzzFeed Posts Unverified Claims on Trump, Igniting a Debate https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html?_r=0 Peak ‘Fake News’: BuzzFeed, CNN Target Trump with Admittedly Unverifiable Russia ‘Memos’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/10/fake-news-avalanche-caused-cnn-buzzfeed-targeting-trump/ Trump Counsel Says Buzzfeed Allegations Are Fake News: ‘I’ve Not Been to Russia’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/10/trump-counsel-michael-cohen-calls-buzzfeed-allegations-fake-ive-never-russia/ There are a lot more. SO, this is totally fabricated, by an un-named source, nothing verified and this has been out there for months. What is wrong with you people? It is understandable that Trump fanboys are pissed about revelations concerning their Golden Shower Boy. It is actually quite delicious watching your heads explode trying to deal with the consequences of your own nihilism. Trump calls for Russia to hack HRC. They do it. He uses the information to attack her and drive his mindless fanboys into frenzies. What exactly are you rebutting? A list of headlines is not exactly a rebuttal but it is quite difficult to understand what it is you are trying to deny. It would appear that you are just trying to slam Buzzfeed with things that other people have said. Fine. Go at it. But don't insult the intelligence of TVF members with your hysterical misrepresentation of events. I actively oppose the entire concept of a Trump Presidency as a humiliation of a great democracy and a mis-step in the path to fulfilling the ideals of a country that invests its sovereignty in the rights of its citizens. However, I do not believe that donald's sexual fetishes are relevant to his leadership ability. I have referred to donald as a sexual pervert in past posts. I believe his perversion results from his inappropriate touching of women and the titillation he gets from this. This is abhorrent and disgusting behavior. Playing out fetishes among consenting adults, even if some of them are employed to be consenting, does not offend me at all. However, I do believe that fetishes are a symptom of underlying and unresolved psychological issues and so I am quite interested in knowing more about what floats donald's boat. I think that there is potentially a strong connection between his childhood experiences and his pathological need for vainglory and now, apparently his means by achieving sexual fulfillment. My interest is piqued but I still believe him to be a danger to stability and growth in civil society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 howto You may well be right about it being fake news but it's great to see Trump so rattled. Never seen him so p*ssed off, or should that be p*ssed on! He chose to go down and dirty and there are plenty out there who will oblige. In the meantime it is all over the international press and the world is having a lot of fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 "What exactly are you rebutting? A list of headlines is not exactly a rebuttal but it is quite difficult to understand what it is you are trying to deny." They are links to news stories. One is supposed to read the articles- not just the headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, howto said: SO, this is totally fabricated, by an un-named source, nothing verified If nothing has been verified, how can it be considered fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawan Dok Krating Daeng Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: "What exactly are you rebutting? A list of headlines is not exactly a rebuttal but it is quite difficult to understand what it is you are trying to deny." They are links to news stories. One is supposed to read the articles- not just the headlines. Superciliousness really only works when you are actually superior. I do not think a record of tens of thousands of cliche opinions qualifies. In the realm of real debate and intelligent discussion, one is actually meant to pose a thesis which is then supported by selected and relevant references. Hence my question - what was the poster actually rebutting? The actuality of the sexual tryst? The qualifications of the former British intelligence officer? The motivations of Senator McCain in employing opposition research on donald? I watched donald's performance in front o the press. I watched the way in which CNN was treated. I listened to their formal statement on the issue. There is a bunch more to this than implied in the poster's insulting in-your-face diatribe. As I already said, my interest is piqued and I look forward to hearing more about donald's sexual exploits (the consensual ones that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Trump now admits Russia hacked both political parties servers: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trumps-press-conference-highlights-russia.html?emc=edit_ae_20170111&nl=todaysheadlines-asia&nlid=58582962 Quote Donald Trump Concedes Russia’s Interference in Election Since he fought aggressively against this for months, and it turned out to be true, the same may be possible for this allegation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Trump now admits Russia hacked both political parties servers: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trumps-press-conference-highlights-russia.html?emc=edit_ae_20170111&nl=todaysheadlines-asia&nlid=58582962 Since he fought aggressively against this for months, and it turned out to be true, the same may be possible for this allegation? Did you hear the bit when he said about the hacking and how the Republicans were not hacked words to the effect "I take some of the credit, I heard about the attacks on the DNC but I told Priebus I want good hacking defences for the Republicans and Priebus did it." So he did know about the hacking? He even wanted to take credit for stopping the Republicans being hacked! The man is totally mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Now I get why DJT loves WikiLeaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 10 hours ago, howto said: You, the anti-Trump circle-jerk crowd, have been had with this incredible 'Fake News' piece. Shame on you TVF for posting this crap. So check out these, (NOTE: Buzzfeed is NBCBuzzfeed) These Reports Allege Trump Has Deep Ties To Russia https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia the full transcript (floating around for several months) here DOCS POSTED BY NBCBuzzfeedhttps://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html Buzzfeed’s Trump report takes ‘fake news’ to a new level http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/buzzfeeds-trump-report-takes-fake-news-to-a-new-level/ BuzzFeed Posts Unverified Claims on Trump, Igniting a Debate https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html?_r=0 Peak ‘Fake News’: BuzzFeed, CNN Target Trump with Admittedly Unverifiable Russia ‘Memos’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/10/fake-news-avalanche-caused-cnn-buzzfeed-targeting-trump/ Trump Counsel Says Buzzfeed Allegations Are Fake News: ‘I’ve Not Been to Russia’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/10/trump-counsel-michael-cohen-calls-buzzfeed-allegations-fake-ive-never-russia/ There are a lot more. SO, this is totally fabricated, by an un-named source, nothing verified and this has been out there for months. What is wrong with you people? Better to ask what is wrong with the president elect passing on so much fake news and lies, even till this day. That would be a bigger concern no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silurian Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Here is some interesting background on the intelligence officer that prepared the dossier. Christopher Steele, Ex-British Intelligence Officer, Said to Have Prepared Dossier on Trump http://www.wsj.com/articles/christopher-steele-ex-british-intelligence-officer-said-to-have-prepared-dossier-on-trump-1484162553 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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