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Am I missing something here...

what is wrong with security.

what is so bad about not having street protests daily.

what is so bad about not having roads blocked and shootings.

what is so bad about being able to travel around Bangkok freely.

what is so bad that you can be assured the airport is open.

If one has nothing to hide then you shouldn't fear the junta.

The defence rests your honor ...:coffee1:

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Posted
6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

These polls surely cannot be carried out by neutral organisations. 

They are carried out by the Thai association of researchers for community happiness (no joke that's the true name). That says it all!

Also known as "Mickey mouse poll" (this time it is supposed to be a joke)

Posted
16 minutes ago, candide said:

It's a joke, right?

Come on he is just pulling your leg. No farang could be that whats the word I am looking for? He is a convert. Jim Jones had about 300 of them. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Am I missing something here...

what is wrong with security.

what is so bad about not having street protests daily.

what is so bad about not having roads blocked and shootings.

what is so bad about being able to travel around Bangkok freely.

what is so bad that you can be assured the airport is open.

If one has nothing to hide then you shouldn't fear the junta.

The defence rests your honor ...:coffee1:

Bizzare post, you sound like the sort of person that would have thanked Adolf and Benito for getting the trains to run on time.

Posted
11 minutes ago, candide said:

They are carried out by the Thai association of researchers for community happiness (no joke that's the true name). That says it all!

 

All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

and we know what happened to Dr.Pangloss

Posted
10 minutes ago, ldiablo72 said:

Almost 3 years into it and they are no closer than they were on May 14th 2014.

 

Well that's sort of the goal now isn't it?

 

But I guess the Junta has been so successful - beach chairs, lottery price, orange motorcy vests - with their "reforms" that they now have time for "reconciliation"?

Posted
4 minutes ago, londoedan said:

you sound like the sort of person that would have thanked Adolf and Benito for getting the trains to run on time.

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, smedly said:

Reconciliation was a Thaksin buzz word that in essence meant nothing at all except his own amnesty

 

What Thailand needs is -

 

- A fair and Working Justice System that applies equally to all

- Law Enforcement without Prejudice, Corruption free and applies Equally to all

- Human Rights and freedoms that apply equally to all

- Wealthy Criminals cannot buy their way out of Jail

- Stiff enforced penalties for those in Public office that commit crimes and corrupt

 

If you can deliver that you will provide Reconciliation to all of the people 

That disqualifies the junta on all points.

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Am I missing something here...

what is wrong with security.

what is so bad about not having street protests daily.

what is so bad about not having roads blocked and shootings.

what is so bad about being able to travel around Bangkok freely.

what is so bad that you can be assured the airport is open.

If one has nothing to hide then you shouldn't fear the junta.

The defence rests your honor ...:coffee1:

And you were the guy that uttered that "farangs" that oppose the junta should go home ?

 

It is people like you that show an utter contempt for the Thai people, and I for one would support deportation of people that are this unadjusted to the country they are a guest in, simply disgracefull.

Posted

To react to the OP, I don't share the optimism at all. In the almost three years of junta rule, we have seen absolutely nothing in regards of reconciliation. In fact we have seen the direct opposite.

 

Now all of a sudden they utter the word again, conformation is not reconciliation, nothing more needs to be said here..

Posted
7 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

I have more confidence that my hemorrhoids will not return! :w00t:

Yeah, I guess likening the PM to a hemorrhoid is accurate

as they are both a pain in the ar se.

Posted
5 hours ago, Docno said:

Yeah, "Super Poll Research Centre" sounds more than a little dodgy. I googled the name (with 'centre' and 'center'), and the only references that came up were to this article. Looks like fake news may have washed ashore in Thailand...

 

Super Poll Research Centre is a front for the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness polls.

 

There was a long article about this organization back in 2014 (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2014/09/why-are-some-opinion-poll-results-so-positive-of-the-thai-junta/) . The poll is run by Dr.Noppadon Kannika, who is employed by the Royal Thai Army!

 

"According to his profiles on Twitter and LinkedIn, he left ABAC to pursue another Master degree at Georgetown University in Strategy and Policy Management, while his Twitter bio still links to ABAC Poll, but has been regularly tweeting news articles about the “Master Poll” results. The masterpoll.net domain was registered on May 15, 2014 – one week before the military coup. That could be just a coincidence. However, Mr. Noppadon’s LinkedIn page lists the “Royal Thai Army” as his current employer while his job title is, according to himself, “unknown”!"

 

I think these nonsense polls can safely be ignored as unabashed military propaganda, and just form part of the normal Monday drivel that we have become accustomed to (along with the latest TAT numbers...).

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, steven100 said:

Khun Prayuth Chan o Cha is the best thing that has happened to Thailand in a long time.

He has brought stability and security to Thailand which was non existent before.

The country is moving forward to ensure growth and sustainability.

However there are some farangs who just don't understand Thai politics and continue to complain about the general and his achievements. Maybe those who don't agree with the government should consider leaving, or did they like Thailands lawlessness and instability and constant protests as before.

I as most are quite happy with the military in power, it sure beats any of the other choices.

I don't want them to remain but I do want them to reform the country so that all the things you mention never happen again - it requires a lot of reform and a rigid constitution and Justice system and the fair enforcement of laws - so far I like what I see but time will tell how effective it is

 

There are also things they are doing that are very very wrong and I have been critical in the past and will continue - Privacy - Human Rights - Defamation Laws - internet Privacy and censorship are a few of the things that they are getting very badly wrong, I do accept that while they are progressing reforms there was a need to surpress those that wanted to kick it up and cause trouble

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This is a misunderstanding. It's to late for any reconciliation between political  leaders Prayut. You have already pushed them out on your forced entry. Apart from the obvious you also appointed a government army senate to cast votes. Now your idea is we all agree to your dictating rule and false democracy lol. Looking at you I was unsure of the intelligence level. But I got it sorted now.  Oh and this poll just like the promised democracy is bullshit. Another media scam to con Thai nationals. You have more chance winning Lottery than winning polls.

Posted
2 hours ago, steven100 said:

Am I missing something here...

what is wrong with security.

what is so bad about not having street protests daily.

what is so bad about not having roads blocked and shootings.

what is so bad about being able to travel around Bangkok freely.

what is so bad that you can be assured the airport is open.

If one has nothing to hide then you shouldn't fear the junta.

The defence rests your honor ...:coffee1:

"...what is so bad...Bangkok freely"

steven 100, are you related to robblok by any chance?  Bangkok = Thailand and screw everything else. You are the epitome of 12th century mentality. Bangkok is OK then it's all OK.

In a military dictatorship this is only one kind of defence.

Posted
1 hour ago, smedly said:

 I do accept that whilesre progressing reforms th ere was a need to surpress those that wanted to kick it up and cause trouble

Very good post. If someone is not at the top to control everything and everyone then we go back as before, so thats why i am all for the current government.

Posted

 

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

However there are some farangs who just don't understand Thai politics and continue to complain about the general and his achievements.

If you think the good General took power because he wanted to make the country a better place for all, it's you that doesn't understand Thai politics.

 

He is just a puppet for the people who really run Thailand, he has to do as he is told, he has no choice, of course he could have refused, then they would have found another guy in charge of thousands of armed men to do the job, whilst his disloyalty would have been rewarded with an investigation into his massive wealth, that is how the elite like it, allow obvious corruption by the generals, then when you need to overthrow an elected government, you have the generals in a corner, do as you're told, or be investigated and lose all your wealth.

 

Obvious corruption by the Generals in charge of the guns  is a way of life in Thailand, and the only people who could do anything about it, don't want to do anything about it, because it suits them to keep things as they are. As long as the Generals do as they are told, they get a nice slice of the pie, and as long as they are available to crush any dissent from the poor masses they get to keep it.

 

The Army and the Police in Thailand have one main job, and that's to protect the ruling class from the rest of the population, of course it's getting harder in this age of information, Thai people are brainwashed from birth to bow and crawl to people higher up the ladder than them, if they ever want to change that medieval system, the ruling classes will call on the Generals to crush them.

 

The Elite class that really run Thailand have got it sewn up.

 

African Tyrants use similar methods and similar methods were used in Europe in the past.

 

The General is no Politician, that's obvious, and I bet he would have loved to be enjoying his retirement from the Army living the high life on his fabulous wealth, instead he's got to serve his masters, he had no choice.

 

 

Posted
11 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

These polls surely cannot be carried out by neutral organisations. 

Under the versatile section 44 they can be done by anyone.............................:cheesy:.

Posted
8 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

"They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it."

 

George Orwell, 1984.

 

Not hard to understand why the chap reading this book in public was carted away.

I've said it a million times on Thaivisa: Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four (especially when combined with Huxley's Brave New World) gives us a VERY accurate picture of present-day Thailand. Of course Orwell's supreme political novel is also proving to be true all across the world - but here it is absolutely in your face and obvious.

That is why the book is effectively banned in Thailand. It tells the truth. 

And as Orwell himself says in that stunning, unsurpassed book: 

'In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'.

 

Yes: telling the political/ cultural truth (about EVERYTHING - past, present and future) would generate a real revolution in Thailand. The whole system has been built on the most shocking foundation of lies, heinous crimes, cover-ups and deception.

 

Maybe one day Orwell's 'revolutionary act' will become a reality here. But as yet - I still don't see it - not even any serious sign of it ...

Posted
3 hours ago, smedly said:

I don't want them to remain but I do want them to reform the country so that all the things you mention never happen again - it requires a lot of reform and a rigid constitution and Justice system and the fair enforcement of laws - so far I like what I see but time will tell how effective it is

 

There are also things they are doing that are very very wrong and I have been critical in the past and will continue - Privacy - Human Rights - Defamation Laws - internet Privacy and censorship are a few of the things that they are getting very badly wrong, I do accept that while they are progressing reforms there was a need to surpress those that wanted to kick it up and cause trouble

Oh my. How naieve can someone get, beyond belief. The reason why they trample on human rights is so that they can push their reform out without opposition. They aren't reforming for the good of Thailand, their reform is about maintaining control in the forseeable future. The "rigid" constitution ensures their goal will be met.

Posted
11 hours ago, lensta said:

Yeah, I guess likening the PM to a hemorrhoid is accurate

as they are both a pain in the ar se.

seriously, go tell the man to his face, like I have said many times on here - make your comments about someone like they are standing in front of you

 

no I didn't think so

Posted
17 hours ago, smedly said:

Reconciliation was a Thaksin buzz word that in essence meant nothing at all except his own amnesty

 

What Thailand needs is -

 

- A fair and Working Justice System that applies equally to all

- Law Enforcement without Prejudice, Corruption free and applies Equally to all

- Human Rights and freedoms that apply equally to all

- Wealthy Criminals cannot buy their way out of Jail

- Stiff enforced penalties for those in Public office that commit crimes and corrupt

 

If you can deliver that you will provide Reconciliation to all of the people 

Luckily the junta granted themselves a full blanket amnesty

Posted
2 hours ago, smedly said:

seriously, go tell the man to his face, like I have said many times on here - make your comments about someone like they are standing in front of you

 

no I didn't think so

A bit difficult with this guy. Not that he commands respect, but his guns are bigger than anyone's and his ego might land you in jail, on an attitude adjustment session, or worse, dead, bodies cremated.

 

Maybe use your brain before posting nonsense

Posted
A bit difficult with this guy. Not that he commands respect, but his guns are bigger than anyone's and his ego might land you in jail, on an attitude adjustment session, or worse, dead, bodies cremated.
 
Maybe use your brain before posting nonsense


I admire your restraint in responding to the silliest post I have seen in months.


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If you think the good General took power because he wanted to make the country a better place for all, it's you that doesn't understand Thai politics.

 

Any rational person willing to invest a few hours would come to the same conclusion.

 

God forbid any Junta-huggers read the recent CIA CREST document dump with a focus on Thailand; they will probably go into apoplectic shock.

 

Probably best for some people to remain ignorant, and happy that the trains run on time.

 

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