Ex-NACC official urges probe of Diageo-Thaksin govt bribery case

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Ex-NACC official urges probe of Diageo-Thaksin govt bribery case
By THE NATION

 

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BANGKOK: -- THE NATIONAL Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) is under pressure to follow up on a Bt21-million bribery case involving a former senior Thai official and the UK-based liquor firm Diageo.

 

In an interview with Nation Multimedia Group digital journalist Suthichai Yoon on Facebook Live, former NACC commissioner Medhi Krongkaew questioned why the case was not being pursued by the anti-graft agency. 

 

He said there was clear evidence that the bribe recipient was an executive with the Thai Rak Thai Party, including during Thaksin Shinawatra’s tenure as premier. 

 

“We even know the name of this person,” said Medhi, who claims to have received first-hand information from the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) while gathering evidence regarding another corruption case. 

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30306441

 

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[colinneil]

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

[newatthis]

Agreed. And the majority of the payments involved in the RR case happened before the Thaksin era.

[JAG]

The country is being run by the military, they understand the purpose of smokescreens: to blind the opposition, screen ones own activities and add to confusion on the battlefield.

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

It's a case of: Look how corrupt this former government was and look how staunchly this government fights corruption. Of course it's clear that this government is not corrupt and always abides by the laws it writes, and therefore can easily concentrate on convincing the public of its pure and benevolent intentions.

[bkkcanuck8]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

That seems to be the opinion of Prayut as well -- corruption in the past is not that important....

 

I do think that there seems to be an overt effort to "punish" people just for being part of the wrong government (extrajudicial; which I do not like at all), but if there are clear cases of fraud/corruption [and not just mismanagement] then no matter how long in the past -- they should be pursued by the judicial system.  

[Srikcir]

Wouldn't the statute if limitations have expired or near expiration?

[chainarong]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

Feed the people B/S and they know no different , good way to bring about reconciliation , which Prayut doesn't want.

[Redline]

That is water under the bridge.  The money is gone.  Just build the train that is supposed to go in front of the condos and the house I bought!  I'm hiding in my house so I don't get killed on the road before I see the money.  Please hurry.  OK, off to cut my nails...

[Ricardo]

10 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

Because the OP suggests that the NACC aren't pursuing the case, despite having some evidence, aren't you interested to know why not ?  Who might be sitting on it, and why wasn't it pursued, under more-recent governments ?  Just how big is the can-of-worms being left unopened ? 

 

There are plenty of old cases awaiting court-action, but this one seems not to have made it that far, aren't you curious as to why not ?

[candide]

30 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

Because the OP suggests that the NACC aren't pursuing the case, despite having some evidence, aren't you interested to know why not ?  Who might be sitting on it, and why wasn't it pursued, under more-recent governments ?  Just how big is the can-of-worms being left unopened ? 

 

There are plenty of old cases awaiting court-action, but this one seems not to have made it that far, aren't you curious as to why not ?

I agree with you. This case has been served on a golden plate, and it is known from the SEC in 2011 that someone related to Thaksin was involved. Due to the obvious anti-Thaksin orientation of the NACC, it is expected they would have jumped on it. Still they did not. There must be some reason....

[robblok]

11 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

So are the guys in the aircraft engine corruption case.. Id both like them to be held accountable. 

[robblok]

14 minutes ago, candide said:

I agree with you. This case has been served on a golden plate, and it is known from the SEC in 2011 that someone related to Thaksin was involved. Due to the obvious anti-Thaksin orientation of the NACC, it is expected they would have jumped on it. Still they did not. There must be some reason....

The NACC has a really bad track record, even cases that are handed on a golden plate and are committed by those people they want to punish get messed up. So if they can't handle this.. what chance is there for the case of the PM's nephew.. I think many in the NACC are just incompetent. Because if you read the article about their track record its real bad. Even small cases of not important people are messed up. 

[scorecard]

11 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

Why not, if it's proven they have broken laws, punish them, show others that bad deeds catch up with you.

[colinneil]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Why not, if it's proven they have broken laws, punish them, show others that bad deeds catch up with you.

Statute of limitations thats why not, bring it to court and it will be thrown out.

It was over 10 years ago.

[candide]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

The NACC has a really bad track record, even cases that are handed on a golden plate and are committed by those people they want to punish get messed up. So if they can't handle this.. what chance is there for the case of the PM's nephew.. I think many in the NACC are just incompetent. Because if you read the article about their track record its real bad. Even small cases of not important people are messed up. 

The NACC has also a track record for being selective, therefore my comments. Nobody is surprised at the perspective that the PM'S nephew may not be indicted. In the OP case, I wonder what prevented them to even open a case on their preferred red target.

[wakeupplease]

First the Mining company now Diageo next Tesco?  international company's will be long gone from here soon, if they have any sense

 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

14 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

That seems to be the opinion of Prayut as well -- corruption in the past is not that important....

 

I do think that there seems to be an overt effort to "punish" people just for being part of the wrong government (extrajudicial; which I do not like at all), but if there are clear cases of fraud/corruption [and not just mismanagement] then no matter how long in the past -- they should be pursued by the judicial system.  

Talking of extrajudicial, how about the 2,500+ that wound up dead and "missing" during the Thaksin administration, should that go under the carpet too?

He is sitting in Dubai until it's all past it's legal sell by date, or somebody gives amnesty to all past acts, like his sister was trying to do for him.

The fate of Mussolini would be too good for that man.

[chickenslegs]

7 hours ago, robblok said:

The NACC has a really bad track record, even cases that are handed on a golden plate and are committed by those people they want to punish get messed up. So if they can't handle this.. what chance is there for the case of the PM's nephew.. I think many in the NACC are just incompetent. Because if you read the article about their track record its real bad. Even small cases of not important people are messed up. 

Incompetence or deliberate manipulation to protect certain interests?

[Khun Han]

20 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

 

Because it takes the ongoing alleged scandal involving Prayuth's nephew off the headlines.

[Thechook]

22 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

Prayuth needs the boogey man to keep in power.  Prayuth is weak without the Shins.

[oldsailor35]

On 2/16/2017 at 5:46 AM, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

Its about time that this stupid government stopped their political witch hunting and paid some attention to Police corruption and the terrible road accident count. In other words, start governing .

 

[oldsailor35]

On 2/16/2017 at 5:46 AM, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

In light of their abysmal performance, its all they can think of doing now.

 

[oldsailor35]

6 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Talking of extrajudicial, how about the 2,500+ that wound up dead and "missing" during the Thaksin administration, should that go under the carpet too?

He is sitting in Dubai until it's all past it's legal sell by date, or somebody gives amnesty to all past acts, like his sister was trying to do for him.

The fate of Mussolini would be too good for that man.

Its shameful that you should say this about the best PM that Thailand has ever had.

[Ricardo]

12 hours ago, colinneil said:

Statute of limitations thats why not, bring it to court and it will be thrown out.

It was over 10 years ago.

You don't think there's any chance, that the alleged-corruption might have been ongoing, which the NACC might therefore still be able to investigate or bring to court ?

[Baerboxer]

On 2/16/2017 at 5:46 AM, colinneil said:

Thaksin and his government are long gone, so why keep bringing them back in the spotlight???

 

Because Thaksin and it appears some of his former cronies, are involved in fraud and bribery cases that haven't yet gone through the very slow justice system. 

 

Or would you prefer to just right them off, "zero the clock"? Save all that waiting on statute of limitations.

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

16 hours ago, oldsailor35 said:

Its shameful that you should say this about the best PM that Thailand has ever had.

ha ha ha, very good, you should do stand up.