Poppadom Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: If he was seeing mountains for the month of February there likely was no need for much air-conditioner activity. Cool weather would also reduce fan/fridge expense. April will likely be a bit different. Phuket, Kathu has small mountains too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppadom Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, johng said: Yes surprising that you only used 123 units with aircon every night set at 26-27 , fan, fridge, TV, monitor, coffee machine, microwave, water heater and induction cooker. Bills for past year: 01/2559: 165 units, 621.55 baht 02/2559: 141 units, 523.73 baht 03/2559: 213 units, 835.93 baht 04/2559: 224 units, 885.05 baht 05/2559: 203 units, 729.39 baht 06/2559: 200 units, 716.91 baht 07/2559: 203 units, 729.39 baht 08/2559: 181 units, 637.85 baht 09/2559: 161 units, 554.61 baht 10/2559: 149 units, 505.71 baht 11/2559: 146 units, 496.36 baht (away for 10 days) 12/2559: 146 units, 496.36 baht (strange, that it's the same consumption as Nov, because we were at home) 01/2560: 69 units, 253.19 baht (away for some 3 weeks) 02/2560: 123 units, 419.33 baht In rainy weather, I use the dehumidifier function on the air con. Guess will be back to 700-800s in the coming months. If it's really hot, I run a/c at 28 with fan during the day (outside temperature -5 for ok comfort) and at 27 at night. This month cleaning is overdue so nighttime I set it to 26 or 25, but found that a bit cold. I am not overweight so I guess that helps too :) Also have a 24/7 dry cabinet, but that is only rated at 5w :) Have changed all lights to energy saving bulbs and all household appliances have the highest efficiency rating (except for power hogs like espresso machine). TV usually runs at min or medium saving - found the normal one too bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Your question can't be answered, factors include all of the ones Crossey mentioned plus how old is the aircon, serviced, how air tight is the room, does it get direct sun for how long on how many walls, black out curtains or not? Really your question has so many variables as to be pointless. You should have rented a condo with government electricity, probably cost you the same with that elevated electricity and you could have got a pool and a modern room. Penny wise and pound foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, Poppadom said: See attached, was surprised, too. Normally 5-600 and if some daytime aircon too, then 800 or slightly over. Luckily we are not getting too much sun due to building arrangement, and have nice mountain view too. That's interesting, your unit rate is less than mine, I thought they were all the same. For the same period my consumption was 275 units which came to 1015 baht and total payable at 1017.22 baht. I had the same figure of 38.22 applied. In December without any aircon consumption was 233 units and last year the highest was August at 444 units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 My 9600 BTU non inverter aircon runs in the bedroom for about 12 hours every evening set to 26-28 degrees depending on how cool I want it, cooking with gas , no espresso machine, 50 inch plasma TV, fridge ,washing machine,water heater,microwave,normal fluorescent lamps,2 floor fans for daytime cooling,modem, router and NAS drives 24/7 + 18 watt fishtank pump date units price 25/4/12 234 ฿820 26/5/12 406 ฿1,509 28/6/12 367 ฿1,470 25/7/12 324 ฿1,284 24/8/12 290 ฿1,137 22/9/12 238 ฿958 22/10/12 278 ฿1,139 21/11/12 291 ฿1,198 22/12/12 331 ฿1,378 22/1/13 284 ฿1,178 19/2/13 255 ฿1,046 21/3/13 328 ฿1,378 20/4/13 353 ฿1,492 23/5/13 337 ฿1,401 20/6/13 331 ฿1,374 21/7/13 376 ฿1,576 21/8/13 313 ฿1,293 20/9/13 295 ฿1,234 22/10/13 267 ฿1,106 21/11/13 270 ฿1,120 22/12/13 220 ฿891 22/1/14 194 ฿783 21/2/14 190 ฿764 21/3/14 282 ฿1,190 20/4/14 348 ฿1,496 21/5/14 366 ฿1,618 21/6/14 327 ฿1,433 22/7/14 315 ฿1,376 22/8/14 348 ฿1,532 23/9/14 327 ฿1,433 21/10/14 349 ฿1,537 20/11/14 347 ฿1,528 21/12/14 322 ฿1,409 23/1/15 256 ฿1,069 19/2/15 235 ฿972 21/3/15 319 ฿1,361 21/4/15 321 ฿1,370 21/5/15 335 ฿1,402 21/6/15 334 ฿1,397 21/7/15 326 ฿1,361 21/8/15 336 ฿1,406 22/9/15 326 ฿1,350 21/10/15 316 ฿1,305 20/11/15 331 ฿1,368 21/12/15 296 ฿1,212 21/1/16 287 ฿1,166 21/2/16 232 ฿921 21/3/16 306 ฿1,251 20/4/16 361 ฿1,497 21/5/16 447 ฿1,755 21/6/16 372 ฿1,433 21/7/16 346 ฿1,324 21/8/16 412 ฿1,602 21/9/16 393 ฿1,520 22/10/16 317 ฿1,204 22/11/16 293 ฿1,104 22/12/16 292 ฿1,100 22/1/17 277 ฿1,025 19/2/17 260 ฿956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slain Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I found that once settled down for the night it is comfortable enough, once the room is cooled down. To just have the fan going with the compressor off. If you have to have the fan at the right angle i.e. blowing across the bed, and you still get a bit warm, pull down the bed-clothes a bit and if you are still perspiring you will keep cool all night. In a natural way. This means that by not using the compressor, it will save plenty of electricity and still keep you cool. A lot less noise too. Might not work if you are on the top floor of a flat roofed condo though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Also probably not so good if you have dry skin or eyes. I can not have fan blowing on me but if you are not cooling much below outside temp the compressor will not be operating all than much - as for noise should be about the same just using fan as compressor is outside and should not be heard that much - and a little noise is good for sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCinBKK Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Between 3-4KSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yes the "white noise" of the air con somewhat masks the barking soi dogs and no exhaust muffler vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Slain said: If you have to have the fan at the right angle i.e. blowing across the bed, and you still get a bit warm, pull down the bed-clothes a bit and if you are still perspiring you will keep cool all night. In a natural way. This means that by not using the compressor, it will save plenty of electricity and still keep you cool. A lot less noise too. you save even more electricty without aircon fan on thinking of wandering nekkid during an icecold winter night north of the polar circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 hours ago, johng said: 20/4/16 361 ฿1,497 21/5/16 447 ฿1,755 21/6/16 372 ฿1,433 21/7/16 346 ฿1,324 21/8/16 412 ฿1,602 21/9/16 393 ฿1,520 count your blessings mate! month................Baht april.............18,776.- may..............21,368.- june.............18,109.- july...............16,682.- august.........17,977.- september....17,689.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppadom Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Naam said: count your blessings mate! month................Baht april.............18,776.- may..............21,368.- june.............18,109.- july...............16,682.- august.........17,977.- september....17,689.- In the US I guess that bill warrants a visit by DEA. You little horticulturalist :))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Ha ha I thought I might entice you with my electric bill Naam,I much prefer my bill and do count my blessings that it's so low:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 No need for special lights and heaters here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Poppadom said: In the US I guess that bill warrants a visit by DEA. You little horticulturalist :))) we had a near identical home in Central Florida and our consumption during the hot months was only ~20% lower because of efficient three-zone central airconditioning. no plants in our house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Live in a house instead of a condo/apartment. I have a 12,000, 18,000 and 32,000 BTU along with a big fridge, TV, 24 hour pumps, 24 hour lighting etc, and the electricity bill ranges from 900 - 1400 baht. However, When i used to live in an apartment, just a 12,000 air con without any other appliances was 1,500 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 On 3/9/2017 at 10:27 AM, English Engineer said: Best approach run the aircon and check the meter readings daily. You then know precisely the cost for your situation. Not necessarily.... I went through a period when my elec bills (rented house) doubled - and as I was short of money at the time, started taking morning and evening readings in an attempt to work out why this was happening. Long story short, the readings fluctuated a lot so I presented the readings to the landlord. The meter was changed, but the 'readings' continued to fluctuate for no discernible reason and eventually I gave up as there was no point and I didn't want to leave my rented house. Around a year later, the elec bills went down (and have stayed down) - again for no discernible reason . Fingers crossed/touch wood that I'm not tempting 'fate' here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 hours ago, wildewillie89 said: Live in a house instead of a condo/apartment. I have a 12,000, 18,000 and 32,000 BTU along with a big fridge, TV, 24 hour pumps, 24 hour lighting etc, and the electricity bill ranges from 900 - 1400 baht. However, When i used to live in an apartment, just a 12,000 air con without any other appliances was 1,500 baht. We too live in a house, only run one 12,000 BTU aircon at night set to 28-30C, low energy lighting, fridge, freezer, telly. Our bill is 4,500 - 5,000 per month, government rates EDIT Did I forget to mention the 5HP of irrigation pumps and 1HP pool pump? Oh and the 3 PCs? The problem is that there are so many variables and so many lifestyles it's almost impossible to compare two usage patterns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza73 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If I can be granted permission to go off at a tangent, I am having a 36 sqm guesthouse built. Open plan bedroom, lounge and small kitchen, enclosed shower, toilet and washbasin. Concrete walls, pitched roof will have 6" insulation. What BTU aircon should I be buying? Favoured brands, conventional vs inverter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, wildewillie89 said: Live in a house instead of a condo/apartment. I have a 12,000, 18,000 and 32,000 BTU along with a big fridge, TV, 24 hour pumps, 24 hour lighting etc, and the electricity bill ranges from 900 - 1400 baht. switch your aircons to cooling mode and then tell us about your electricity bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Crossy said: The problem is that there are so many variables and so many lifestyles it's almost impossible to compare two usage patterns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, bazza73 said: If I can be granted permission to go off at a tangent, I am having a 36 sqm guesthouse built. Open plan bedroom, lounge and small kitchen, enclosed shower, toilet and washbasin. Concrete walls, pitched roof will have 6" insulation. What BTU aircon should I be buying? Favoured brands, conventional vs inverter? The conventional Thai guesstimate would put that at 21,600 BTU. Since it's a multi-use area you should consider an inverter unit as less cooling will be needed at night when it's a bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, Crossy said: We too live in a house, only run one 12,000 BTU aircon at night set to 28-30C, low energy lighting, fridge, freezer, telly. Our bill is 4,500 - 5,000 per month, government rates EDIT Did I forget to mention the 5HP of irrigation pumps and 1HP pool pump? Oh and the 3 PCs? The problem is that there are so many variables and so many lifestyles it's almost impossible to compare two usage patterns That seems a ridiculous amount...I don't see the point of having an air con if you're setting it to 28-30 so I set it to 25. Although i put it on a 3 hour timer with the fan running also just to get me to sleep. Day time is another matter obviously. I was under the impression between 24-26 degrees saves you in terms of the electricity bill anyway. Fairly sure that is what the government recommend in terms of savings. Ours is a new house so lighting is all LED. Other than outside which are flood lights. Fridge, washing machine, two TVs one pretty good rating, the other not. Pumps, well I only turn on the dam pump to water the garden and the house pump is automatic obviously. The supply water pump ill turn on once every 3-4 months if the water stops coming for whatever reason. Run 2 computers and a 8 camera CCTV system. And an industrial fan (with ice) outside for the dog lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said: I was under the impression between 24-26 degrees saves you in terms of the electricity bill anyway. Fairly sure that is what the government recommend in terms of savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If you say so Willie. But you know nothing about our home, our lifestyle or anything else. Our standing load 24/7/365 is about 800W which equates to about 2,300 Baht per month before we fire up the A/C or irrigation pumps. The biggest saving you can make with an aircon, is to turn it off. So our consumption (for the aircon only) is less at 28-30 where we are comfortable, than it would be at 24-26 where we would be cold. EDIT Before anyone asks, yes I'm a farang (a Brit) but I've lived in the tropics for more years than I care to remember, I would die of exposure on a UK summer's day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Crossy said: If you say so Willie. But you know nothing about our home, our lifestyle or anything else. Our standing load 24/7/365 is about 800W which equates to about 2,300 Baht per month before we fire up the A/C or irrigation pumps. The biggest saving you can make with an aircon, is to turn it off. So our consumption (for the aircon only) is less at 28-30 where we are comfortable, than it would be at 24-26 where we would be cold. That is true. Well, not entirely true, you did just describe your home lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, wildewillie89 said: That is true. Well, not entirely true, you did just describe your home lol. OK, "almost nothing" :) Actually, if you search Thaivisa you'll find quite a lot about me, my wife and our home (and pets), you could probably work out where we live and find my Facebore page too. I have made concious efforts to reduce the base load, but something always complains (or floats to the top of the koi pond). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 to match some of the f@cktual comments presented by resident lurned eggsburts here's mine: installed in our home are 1 unit..... 48,000 btu/h 1 unit..... 24,000 btu/h 1 unit..... 18,000 btu/h 14 units. 13,000 btu/h 2 units..... 9,000 btu/h their thermostat settings are at 26 and 27ºC. their energy consumption per month is extremely low... when not switched on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Almost zero in fact Naam :) Actually, I've never measured the vampire power of an aircon in standby mode, may be something to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, Crossy said: Almost zero in fact Naam :) i was to lazy to estimate the consumption of the power indicator lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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