webfact Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Probe reveals pilot intended to unhook net with a black bear inside to avoid crash BANGKOK: -- Investigation into a black bear which fell to its death from a helicopter on February 11 showed it was the intention of the pilot to release the net to the ground to avoid crashing on a cliff while flying in Khao Yai national park. This was revealed today by Mr Adisorn Nuchdamrong, inspector-general of the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment. Mr Adisorn said investigation of the death of the black bear falling from the helicopter showed that the pilot unlocked the hook to release the net because the helicopter was losing power as it was about to fly over a cliff with the load of the bear. The pilot feared the helicopter could fall or hit the cliff if he didn’t unload the weight to save lives of all crews on board. He also said the helicopter was flying the bear to release into the nature in Khao Yai national park. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/probe-reveals-pilot-intended-unhook-net-black-bear-inside-avoid-crash/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-04-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The chief of Kao yai operation centre said the pilot did not seek permission to fly the bear. Utter nonsense, so he is saying the pilot decided himself to go ahead without permission. Sounds like the chief is protecting his own back, and too hell with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, colinneil said: The chief of Kao yai operation centre said the pilot did not seek permission to fly the bear. Utter nonsense, so he is saying the pilot decided himself to go ahead without permission. Sounds like the chief is protecting his own back, and too hell with others. And how come the pilot didn't make some calculations in advance to establish whether the bear was too heavy or not before take off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Did the pilot not have the option of just lowering the bear to the ground before releasing the hook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sack all those involved in the farcical planning and execution of this idiotic scheme to ''relocate" the bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The chief of Kao yai operation centre said the pilot did not seek permission to fly the bear. Utter nonsense, so he is saying the pilot decided himself to go ahead without permission. Sounds like the chief is protecting his own back, and too hell with others.Colin, don't be so cynical: the pilot clearly laid the sling out on the ground and then lured the bear with honey to the spot. He then proceded to tranquilise the bear. After this he flew his helicopter to the spot, brought the helicopter to a hover 2m above the bear, jumped out, attached the sling to the helicopter and then pulled himself back into the helicopter and then set-off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 In this case you can say the pilot came and wasn't "loaded for bear" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 After further investigation, it is clear no one was at fault, the bear just committed suicide.. It could not find a balcony so it just used the helicopter that was just passing by.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Translation - the pilot realized far too late that the aircraft was overloaded and dropped the load. Oh, and that all the previous reports about tranquilizers wearing off etc. were fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, DoctorG said: Did the pilot not have the option of just lowering the bear to the ground before releasing the hook? Or reduce the weight by pushing out some of the "other passengers"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sure there will be full investigation or not. Poor bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, scorecard said: And how come the pilot didn't make some calculations in advance to establish whether the bear was too heavy or not before take off? You don't really believe that anybody here would "make any calculations in advance", do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Methinks that some idiot on board fiddling around made a mistake and released the sling hook unintentionally. Rest is all cover up. No pilot is such a fool not to calculate the payload before taking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Not trying to defend the pilot as poor planning is clearly at the root of this sad happening, but if he was in a mountainous area he could very possibly have been caught in a downdraft or powerful headwind. Any pilot will tell you mountainous terrain can cause unpredictable wind conditions. With the sling below, his option for increasing air speed by rapidly dropping altitude wasn't available. There is also the possibility that the sling caused a lot more drag than was expected. Still and all, better planning and it probably wouldn't have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 A helicopter can stop, hover , fly backwards. So why was there any commitment to fly up and over the cliff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Usual Thai planning, instead of choosing to fly at a higher altitude, leaves himself liable to collision by having no safety margin. Poor old bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Sack all those involved in the farcical planning and execution of this idiotic scheme to ''relocate" the bear. Why? the bear has been relocated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Why? the bear has been relocated One could be forgiven for assuming that the bear was supposed to be relocated alive and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plachon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, cloudhopper said: Translation - the pilot realized far too late that the aircraft was overloaded and dropped the load. Oh, and that all the previous reports about tranquilizers wearing off etc. were fiction. No mention was made in earlier reports that the bear was in a sling, but it was supposed to have been in the helicopter itself, so clearly there is need for an investigation into earlier explanations given to the public, in what seems to be a clear cut case of truth obfuscation and misleading reports. Guess the senior officials responsible are counting on a collective case of amnesia and "mai pen rai" in the unnecessary death of this bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, djayz said: One could be forgiven for assuming that the bear was supposed to be relocated alive and well. Relocated was the operative word, nobody specified the bears condition of health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 As opposed to the original story in which the bear, loosely covered by a net awoke early from its drug induced slumber and panicked thus falling out of the chopper.... or was that a different bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So instead of releasing the bear into the wild he just gave it a wild release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 hours ago, scorecard said: And how come the pilot didn't make some calculations in advance to establish whether the bear was too heavy or not before take off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I suppose landing never occurred to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, lemonjelly said: As opposed to the original story in which the bear, loosely covered by a net awoke early from its drug induced slumber and panicked thus falling out of the chopper.... or was that a different bear? If only the pilot had awoke from his genetic induced stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhinhh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sometimes it does not rain only cats and dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Relocated was the operative word, nobody specified the bears condition of health. I wonder if that's anything like "un-accommodated" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveE13 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So the original story of waking up and falling out is BS. Who would of guessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 40 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Why? the bear has been relocated So glad you find humour in yet another series of moronic, all too human, actions leading to the death of another living creature. But hey animals don't matter do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Sack all those involved in the farcical planning and execution of this idiotic scheme to ''relocate" the bear. Farang no underestand, this is the Thai way to relocate a bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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