doctormann Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, maoro2013 said: Yes. Explaining why they are necessary would be a good start. The boys need toys. That's the only real explanation - anything else is just smoke and mirrors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, doctormann said: The boys need toys. That's the only real explanation - anything else is just smoke and mirrors! And a few people need their 15%, so that they can start on some serious house-buying in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 hours ago, colinneil said: Submarines necessary for national security. Sad fact is these plonkers actually believe that. Lets see now ,The army has gotten their ass kicked in the last seven times they tried to screw with their neighbors in the last 30 years and have a very poor rating in world armies,Most of the Air Forces planes are grounded due to the lack of parts and poor maintenance with the pilots getting very few hours flying a year,The Navy has an aircraft carrier that has only a few foreigners taking off or landing on it in a single seat aircraft or with a local pilot and a foreign pilot in a multi seat aircraft. that has not enough qualified personnel to man it at sea and a gulf that will not be deep enough to hide a submarine under its waters.Oh yes so tell me again Mr Supreme Commander how much you need to protect LOS with your military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Let's check back the National Security threats over the past 40 years....tell me what threats did the kingdom face and how a submarine will secure the entire country?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: Supreme Commander: submarines necessary for national security And I need new big house and new big car make me look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Panda13 said: The biggest problem will be finding a shirt large enough to carry ALL of the Supreme Commanders medals. He might have to wear two shirts at the same time. nope....one shirt enuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Sir, we have a security situation in Chiang Rai, can you dispatch the submarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 If this means they won't have the funds to ever try and build a nuclear power plant in the near future let them do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, anotheruser said: If this means they won't have the funds to ever try and build a nuclear power plant in the near future let them do it. combine the two and build nuclear subs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, kannot said: combine the two and build nuclear subs!! Yes, somebody tell the general this wonderful idea!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4637435435 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I think there is plastic surgery options for the guys that are a little lacking downstairs?. Perhaps this would be more cost effective and if war breaks out at least you could start swinging them around. Less buttons and such. Makes more sense.... On another note, these subs are able to see through garbage? Perhaps all the enemy need to do is throw a few more redbull, m150,.. and plastic bags in the ocean to put these subs out of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, bsdthai said: I think there is plastic surgery options for the guys that are a little lacking downstairs?. Perhaps this would be more cost effective and if war breaks out at least you could start swinging them around. Less buttons and such. Makes more sense.... On another note, these subs are able to see through garbage? Perhaps all the enemy need to do is throw a few more redbull, m150,.. and plastic bags in the ocean to put these subs out of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Thailand has so many Generals and Admirals. I'm certain they know best. What's a country without submarines anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 nope....one shirt enuffObviously a fake - no para wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 With 1750 flag officers, the Thai military certainly needs a few more , under what justification does the Supreme Commander consider this submarine purchase, what national security would demand a submarine, to torpedo a student rally......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, chainarong said: With 1750 flag officers, the Thai military certainly needs a few more , under what justification does the Supreme Commander consider this submarine purchase, what national security would demand a submarine, to torpedo a student rally......................................... They could use them to terrorize Rohingya boat people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles45 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 "Why does a country need submarines for national security when it has a history of "surrendering" at the first sign of foreign invasion?" Well the Japanese didn't seem to have much trouble in WW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 hours ago, rkidlad said: Well, you've been fine ever since the Burmese and then Japanese put their feet up here. Where's this new threat coming from? Chinese tourists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just a month ago one of the Ministerial Muppets came out and said they didn't want the Submarines for aggressive purposes but 'just to learn about them'. How learning about them can be a requirement of National Security remains a mystery but the truth is that all the armed forces must be given new toys before they hand back power to a Civilian Government.....well kind of....until the next Coup ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I read something in an international defense site a couple of days ago. It said the Chinese made sure that the submarines were of a type that could not cross the Gulf of Siam (too shallow). Therefore if China had "serious business" in the South China Sea the Thais would not be able to meddle. They were not that worried if they were deployed to the West Coast as only the Indians there. Anyone know if this is true regarding , sizes, depth etcNot even on the surface??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpkin Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Chinese are offering good T&Cs. Save them having to station their own vessel in Thai patrol area, because all GPS and Intelligence Data will be communicated back to Beijing automatically, (not that it will be of much value). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Maybe intelligence has been gathered that suggests Taksin has bought one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 hours ago, candide said: It's a matter of national security and thus cannot be disclosed! More like stupidity and self-aggrandisement under the banner of "national security" One submarine is not going to act as a deterrent to anyone stupid enough to think they should conquer Thailand. Successive Thai governments still cannot bring peace to the peoples of southern Thailand! What hope have they of repelling a real invasion (apart from talking the other side to death with official announcements)! Cloud cuckoo land is alive and well, unfortunately, for the average decent Thai citizen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Who wants to place bets that there will be a sub catastrophe in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGIR Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Who is going to train the Thai Submariners? Does the Thai Navy have anyone fluent enough in a foreign language to train people in the operation of Chinese submarines? Submarines are quite different than destroyers and whatever else the Thai Navy has on hand. Are they going to rent submariners from the Chinese? If the average depth of the gulf is 58 meters , or 190 feet, they will need rescue equipment pretty quickly. Have they considered how they will rescue their crews when they crash a sub on the bottom of the Gulf? This is gonna cost a lot more money than just buying the submarines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandemara Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 A Supreme Commander who hangs his reputation on Chinese submarines. Hasn't anyone had the courage to tell him these things are designed to sink and disappear as required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I used to watch Saturday Night Live for amusement. Now I just read these submarine threads instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 21 hours ago, colinneil said: Submarines necessary for national security. Sad fact is these plonkers actually believe that. Beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I hope they weren't secretly assembled in Malaysia , might get stuck in Customs, if you know what I mean, wink wink ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 12 hours ago, dcnx said: Who wants to place bets that there will be a sub catastrophe in the near future? "near future" Not me, merely because it is apparent from the planned purchase-payments, that it will be several years before they take delivery of the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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