wakeupplease Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Sorry Jaded I am not I do live in a world of reality though and I do not hate your neck of the woods as I have family and many friends still there and care about them But I totally agree with you on I want to be clear, violence is unacceptable and what these boys did and how the police appeared to have handled it is terrible. Lets hope these things stop soon Keep well and have a good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) This terrible incident could not happen without the perpetrators knowing that the police will not act. Very little happens, including loan sharking, without the police, local officials or government officials being in on the act. The lucrative 'brown envelopes' are why they pay for their positions in these institutions. What is needed in Thailand is a massive change of attitude. Unfortunately that would have to come from the top and filter down. Not going to happen!! Edited May 9, 2017 by owl sees all spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, soalbundy said: I wouldn't know, i haven't lived there for more than 45 years and don't intend going back. The motorbike gangs were reported in the Mirror (yeah tabloids) but with cctv photo's,the police are desperate to get them and no doubt they will but since the Mirror is not the only newspaper that i read i have formed an impression that the UK is a violent place to be. Like anywhere it probably depends on where you live and where you go out. I have lived in Isaan for more than 12 years now,never had any trouble, had two car accidents,not my fault and the police prosecuted the Thai drivers. Mirror that paper seems to have a big following there, give it a miss, as just pumped up rubbish. Newspapers here are dying fast as we have moved to the electronic age so they print anything to sell the paper. Motor bikes here as you know are few and far between mainly big bikes that come out in the summer, there are small 150cc bikes I guess but I have not seen one in 3 months, saw a scooter the other day. I liked bikes when I was younger but too cold now. Always liked it up in Issan when I visited, so drove a lot on tours over there, did over 100.000 km in less that a year on last visit so saw the roads close up. Hua Hin is still my favourite place on the planet, but, just cannot handle the corruption that came my way as people thought the money I had and worked hard for in my country for years was somehow theirs and they tried hard to get it. Here that does not happen so much. But Thai wife says she feels safer here and she has just gone off shopping and driving herself, something she would not do back home so that says what it is like here. Keep well Edited May 9, 2017 by wakeupplease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fulwell53 said: Anger management maybe an option Well maybe, a quick google on anger management will show you that, contrary to popular belief, anger management programs, everywhere, have a very low success rate. Edited May 9, 2017 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbark Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 8 hours ago, pentap said: What a fxxking disgrace! I'm sorry but this is not a civilised country. Mind-less, sick bastards! Fxxking low life animals! No they are worse than animals. Sicking. My young daughter keeps me hanging on here, but I can't wait for the day when she a little older and can finally leave this place! I'm sorry but similar things happen all over the world. If you try, you can find "uncivilized" behaviour in any country. I am sure the majority of Thai people condemn this behaviour as much as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Bangkok sounds nice. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 8 hours ago, lemonjelly said: Where I'm from, the suspects would have their doors kicked in by a squad of arresting officers before dawn..... but hey, this is Thailand..... what was I thinking? You weren't ?, and you know full well that the scumbags will be asked to come down to the station provided they aren't too busy with other important business. Actually it really seems to be getting worse everyday or is that just my imagination playing tricks on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, ironbark said: I'm sorry but similar things happen all over the world. If you try, you can find "uncivilized" behaviour in any country. I am sure the majority of Thai people condemn this behaviour as much as you do. You mean the cops don't give a rats arse or do you mean the out of control lawlessness infecting Thailand currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Wiggy said: One thing I'll never understand here.....why does the victim have to do the job of the police? "The victim was expected to come with the report to the police station at 10am this morning." Why can't the police visit the victim as in civilized countries? C'mon, she's obviously a lo so Edited May 9, 2017 by DekDaeng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 10 hours ago, jak2002003 said: Maybe she will not want to leave this place. Where will you both go? This kind of things sadly happens all over the world, and here are a lot worse countries for violence than here... just look at what happens in some parts of America these days! Right. Also; anyone with any sense would not become involved with a bunch of thugs in the first place. I would rather starve or go begging then to borrow money from hoodlums. The poor woman was lucky to had been able to walk away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brling Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, soalbundy said: Go live in London after 6 months of reading about or experiencing the violence there you will think Thailand is the garden of Eden Nonsense. Why do you Thai apologists always try to justify these vile cowards. Would you try to justify this in your home country ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 11 hours ago, tracker1 said: The victim filed a complaint and police are waiting on medical reports of her injuries before arresting those responsible. Minburi police told Daily News that they know who the attackers are. We are just giving the offenders enough time to dissapear ! Total Disgrace ! Maybe, or waiting to see what hi-so connections there might be in this cowardly mob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Nonsense. Why do you Thai apologists always try to justify these vile cowards. Would you try to justify this in your home country ? Why is pointing out that horrific violence happens everywhere, "apologising" for when it happens in Thailand, or justifying it in any way?Sent from my SM-A500F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memkuk Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm not condoning this, but sometimes I wonder, after living here 27 years, why I never ever had any problem, neither with youth gangs, neither with police. I think I do understand Thai customs and I do speak Thai fluently, maybe that helps. Having said that, something has changed in Thai society. This is just sickening. What happened here is just between Thais. I can't remember something like this happening 3 decades ago. What ever happened to the "respect for older people"? Personally I believe there is a problem with the next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 A broken justice system, a broken police force, a broken government and a totally broken society. No one gives a hoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, timewilltell said: A broken justice system, a broken police force, a broken government and a totally broken society. No one gives a hoot. Why the hell are you living here if this is what you think of the country and the society in which you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, jak2002003 said: Why the hell are you living here if this is what you think of the country and the society in which you live? Because I am unable to leave. Perhaps you should consider that you do not know the circumstances of the poster, in this case me, before you assume, quite incorrectly, to know the reasons for my comment, which by the way is right on the mark. If you think none of those things are broken then good luck and I wish you well with your own interpretation of the everyday news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The people on this land are really sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 25 minutes ago, Donaldo said: I am obviously not the first one to notice, but can it really be true that the police have to wait for the medical results before making any arrest. I have been reading a lot of articles on crimes committed and the respective sentences that where dished out, and it makes the Thai judicial system look like a joke. And they dont even mention trying to apprehend the loan sharks that h9red the thugs to do the beating.. Probably because they have very close ties to the rtp. Anyway, the thugs will probably not get away, and the sharks will have to hire some new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I hope this makes the international press! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Backyard loan sharks charge at a minimum of 10% per month. They can do this because Thai banks do not give loans to anyone without collateral, ie your normal Thai citizen. Easy to solve but hard to implement a solution. There actually is a law against back yard loan sharks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangJon Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, mommysboy said: I hope this makes the international press! That won´t change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, FarangJon said: That won´t change anything. I hope it does change something. Including the need for an elderly women to need to go to an illegal loan shark in the first place. It is sad and inevitable if you cannot pay illegal loans to illegal men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadgw Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 PATHETIC......... just makes me want to puke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, memkuk said: I'm not condoning this, but sometimes I wonder, after living here 27 years, why I never ever had any problem, neither with youth gangs, neither with police. I think I do understand Thai customs and I do speak Thai fluently, maybe that helps. Having said that, something has changed in Thai society. This is just sickening. What happened here is just between Thais. I can't remember something like this happening 3 decades ago. What ever happened to the "respect for older people"? Personally I believe there is a problem with the next generation. Maybe because like me, you have not broken any laws, you have not gotten involved with the wrong people and you have not gotten involved in other people`s dramas. And also like me, avoided any trouble and avoided getting into disputes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Quote The victim filed a complaint and police are waiting on medical reports of her injuries before arresting those responsible. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 18 hours ago, survivalblue said: These incidents seem to be increasing and more widespread. That or more reported and caught on camera. As a foreigner, it makes me concerned about the future of Thailand. There seems to be no efforts to prosecute and criminalize violence. Instead the authorities are harassing food vendors, tourists, and peaceful poor people. Or maybe it's getting harder to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 The victim filed a complaint and police are waiting on medical reports of her injuries before arresting those responsible. The victim was expected to come with the report to the police station at 10am this morning. That says it all about logical thinking at Thai governmental agencies like police and army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 It is things like this that make me embarrassed I chose to live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Off topic posts about violence in the UK and USA have been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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