What's up with Bangkok nightlife? What's up with the early closing??

[ricku]

Went to Khao San Road 3 nights ago to party. Police (and military) closed everything down at 12:20 AM.

Went there again tonight (thinking that those <deleted> might have given up). But nope, police and military were closing the whole street at 12:00 AM sharp.

I asked taxi drivers about some other places that are usually open until late. But they told me that Mix Discotheque, Sugar Club, Shock 39, Boss, and many other places were also closed early.

Are the retards in boots and uniform trying to kill off the party tourism completely?

[Crowes]

Something to do with Visakha Bucha Day?

[jaymbkk]

If it was on Wednesday it was a Buddhist holiday it's totally normal

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[ukrules]

The fact that he posted this on Friday evening and it was at least 2 days ago when it first happened and it also happened again since then suggests it had nothing to do with the Buddha day on Wednesday.

 

Why are they closing all the nightlife early every day in one of the most popular tourist 'dumps' in Bangkok ?

 

Today was also some kind of special day but not the kind of day where bars close.

Edited May 12, 2017 by ukrules

[dotpoom]

Nice name calling though?

[tonray]

1 hour ago, dotpoom said:

Nice name calling though?

He might want to look at the new computer defamation guilt policies before posting like that.

[jaymbkk]

Judging by the places he's talking about, it's another quality tourist missing his share of hookers and beers.

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[ujayujay]

too many beers, less thinking?.....try again.

[sanukjim]

Because its the law DXMMY.

[rott]

Is it the law to close at midnight? He says the taxi driver told him other places he asked about were closed "early".

This was on a Friday night.. The first one seems to have been Tuesday night when it would have been for Visakha Bucha.

[NoshowJones]

9 hours ago, jaymbkk said:

If it was on Wednesday it was a Buddhist holiday it's totally normal

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Closing down peoples livelihood because of religion is normal as you say, but that sort of thing should never happen. This is Thailand, a country that depends so much on tourism, but between new unnecessary tourist visa laws, and shutting down tourist entertainment, the tourists are just going to go elsewhere.

[jaymbkk]

Closing down peoples livelihood because of religion is normal as you say, but that sort of thing should never happen. This is Thailand, a country that depends so much on tourism, but between new unnecessary tourist visa laws, and shutting down tourist entertainment, the tourists are just going to go elsewhere.

If they're too dumb to understand the value and importance of religion in Thailand and generally in asia and to respect the country's culture .. then yeah they can go elsewhere in my opinion.

Depending on tourism doesn't mean forgetting your history and culture.

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[NoshowJones]

29 minutes ago, jaymbkk said:

 

If they're too dumb to understand the value and importance of religion in Thailand and generally in asia and to respect the country's culture .. then yeah they can go elsewhere in my opinion.

Depending on tourism doesn't mean forgetting your history and culture.

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I see where you are coming from, and I strongly believe that if you go to a country for a holiday or retirement, then you must respect that country and it's culture.

Now I am no sex monger or drinker, but the people who own these businesses or are employed there have bills to pay and families to feed, and to shut them down for nothing other than religion, it is way off. just my opinion.

[jaymbkk]

I see where you are coming from, and I strongly believe that if you go to a country for a holiday or retirement, then you must respect that country and it's culture.
Now I am no sex monger or drinker, but the people who own these businesses or are employed there have bills to pay and families to feed, and to shut them down for nothing other than religion, it is way off. just my opinion.

I understand your opinion, but religion here is bigger of a deal that it is in Europe or in the US. It would be totally unimaginable to close businesses there on religious ground, but the culture here makes it somewhat acceptable, and I think most of the bar owners here know it.

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[janclaes47]

2 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Now I am no sex monger or drinker, but the people who own these businesses or are employed there have bills to pay and families to feed, and to shut them down for nothing other than religion, it is way off. just my opinion.

Last time I checked these laws and regulations were in place long time before these business owners opened their businesses.

[jaymbkk]

Last time I checked these laws and regulations were in place long time before these business owners opened their businesses.

Yeah but they're not the one complaining. It's mostly the unawares tourists who are complaining, either due to a lack of informations or to a misunderstanding of Thai culture

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[natway09]

It was not that long ago that on  Good Friday in NZ the public bars closed

[SiamBeast]

23 minutes ago, jaymbkk said:

 

I understand your opinion, but religion here is bigger of a deal that it is in Europe or in the US. It would be totally unimaginable to close businesses there on religious ground, but the culture here makes it somewhat acceptable, and I think most of the bar owners here know it.

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Religion is a bigger deal. That's why you often see households where the mother + father + kids + family live together, as opposed to Europe where half of kids are born out of wedlock and having married parents is becoming taboo.

[ricku]

Op here. Sorry about my bad language, but I was drunk and quite disappointed when I wrote this post.

Regarding the forced closing of Khao San.. First time we went there was on Tuesday night, so the religious stuff on Wednesday might have been a "valid reason" for the early closing.

But yesterday was just a normal Friday night, and all the bars got shut down again (even the ones who usually remain open when everything else is closed).

Edited May 13, 2017 by ricku

[Steiner]

39 minutes ago, SiamBeast said:

 

Religion is a bigger deal. That's why you often see households where the mother + father + kids + family live together, as opposed to Europe where half of kids are born out of wedlock and having married parents is becoming taboo.

Wait, you're saying Thais don't have kids out of wedlock!?! 

???????

Man half of Isaan is made of of 'kid stay with mum' (grandma). 

That is so blinkered I'm not sure whether to laugh at it. 

[Steiner]

42 minutes ago, natway09 said:

It was not that long ago that on  Good Friday in NZ the public bars closed

You're comparing one night of early closing with maybe 30 days a year when alcohol can't be purchased at all, don't look for reasons to be an apologist. 

[Steiner]

1 hour ago, jaymbkk said:

 

If they're too dumb to understand the value and importance of religion in Thailand and generally in asia and to respect the country's culture .. then yeah they can go elsewhere in my opinion.

Depending on tourism doesn't mean forgetting your history and culture.

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Just to be clear, you're saying that all Thais revere the religious days so much that they abstain completely? 

It's not even difficult to buy booze on a religious day and the steady stream of Thais buying boxes of booze would indicate that your glasses are overly rosy in comparison to the facts. 

Are you going to tell Thais who drink on religious days to leave the country as well? 

[SiamBeast]

6 minutes ago, Steiner said:

Wait, you're saying Thais don't have kids out of wedlock!?! 

???????

Man half of Isaan is made of of 'kid stay with mum' (grandma). 

That is so blinkered I'm not sure whether to laugh at it. 

 

In my home country, I asked 10 of my friends, and only 1 of them has married parents. All others are from broken homes.

 

Here, in the moo-ban where we live, it's all complete families. Yes there are train wrecks in Isaan who pop out screaming meatbags without a ring, and those are the girls that we poke when we want an easy adventure until they find a sucker to marry them and pick up the pieces - this is far from representing the image of the country.

Edited May 13, 2017 by SiamBeast

[jaymbkk]

Just to be clear, you're saying that all Thais revere the religious days so much that they abstain completely? 

It's not even difficult to buy booze on a religious day and the steady stream of Thais buying boxes of booze would indicate that your glasses are overly rosy in comparison to the facts. 

Are you going to tell Thais who drink on religious days to leave the country as well? 

 

You're twisting my words and missing my point. I won't answer to your cynicism. Regards

 

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[DPKANKAN]

56 minutes ago, ricku said:

Op here. Sorry about my bad language, but I was drunk and quite disappointed when I wrote this post.

Regarding the forced closing of Khao San.. First time we went there was on Tuesday night, so the religious stuff on Wednesday might have been a "valid reason" for the early closing.

But yesterday was just a normal Friday night, and all the bars got shut down again (even the ones who usually remain open when everything else is closed).

I was there the previous week with my Thai gf. Police out at 12.00 shutting everything down. 

[oldhippy]

So many posters talking about "Thai Culture".....

 

People, get over it, there is no longer such a thing as "Thai Culture".

"Thai Culture"  is lost - and whether that is a good or bad thing is a different discussion.

What we have now, is Thais trying but failing to adopt Farang culture.

What we have now, is individual Thais doing whatever pleases them.

 

Again, I am not saying that all that is a good or a bad evolution,  I am only describing the facts.

[sanukjim]

4 hours ago, Steiner said:

Wait, you're saying Thais don't have kids out of wedlock!?! 

???????

Man half of Isaan is made of of 'kid stay with mum' (grandma). 

That is so blinkered I'm not sure whether to laugh at it. 

Most of those kids staying with grand mom were born to a couple when they were together and before the mothers found out how much of <deleted> most LOS young fathers are.The girls now leave and must make a living to support those kids,So they come to Pattaya and Bangkok to work (thank you <deleted>).

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, janclaes47 said:

Last time I checked these laws and regulations were in place long time before these business owners opened their businesses.

So all the owners and employees were told that their businesses and employment were going to shut down for no "just" reason at the whims of people who just love to use their authority? That is what this all boils down to, Thailand, uniforms, authority?? They sure go together here. they are picking on just one thing here, the nightlife. If the authorities are right, then why don't they just shut down everything except the emergency services if religion matters that much.

[jaymbkk]

So all the owners and employees were told that their businesses and employment were going to shut down for no "just" reason at the whims of people who just love to use their authority? That is what this all boils down to, Thailand, uniforms, authority?? They sure go together here. they are picking on just one thing here, the nightlife. If the authorities are right, then why don't they just shut down everything except the emergency services if religion matters that much.

I find it strange that the only complains we hear come from foreigners. Its like a trend now to judge the way things are run by Thais.. I don't see the point personally..

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[Tony125]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I see where you are coming from, and I strongly believe that if you go to a country for a holiday or retirement, then you must respect that country and it's culture.

Now I am no sex monger or drinker, but the people who own these businesses or are employed there have bills to pay and families to feed, and to shut them down for nothing other than religion, it is way off. just my opinion.

Where are you from? In USA the last of State Blue Laws were repealed in 2010. Blue Laws prevented the opening of business or stores on Sunday or certain religous holidays.  I lived in Boston , MA and the Blue Laws  preventing Sunday openings were repealed there in 1983 but  certain religous holidays like Easter Christmas they need a special permit to remain open . Other ststes did not repeal their Blue Laws untill 2010. So other countries besides thailand close places for religous reasons.

Edited May 13, 2017 by Tony125
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